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2015/12/31

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00:02
Bertl_oO
well, at the moment, we don't see a real demand for that
00:03
Bertl_oO
if you want dirt cheap low end, you probably can get away with a raspberry pi with camera
00:04
Bertl_oO
if you want something better but small sensor/small format (and open/free) then the elphel cameras are probably a good choice
00:04
aombk2
oh yes, the elphel
00:05
aombk2
anyway, i hope you see some demand for a small sensor module
00:06
Bertl_oO
I can do you have any particular sensor in mind? just curious
00:06
Bertl_oO
- I can
00:09
aombk2
not really but i havent really looked for such sensors
00:09
aombk2
http://www.cmosis.com/products/product_detail/cmv2000
00:10
aombk2
...for example
00:10
aombk2
gtg
00:10
aombk2
see ya
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Bertl_oO
@aombk well, as I said, the CMV2/4k will get support, so problem solved :)
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rex1
star wars was good
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rex1
hateful 8 was brutal
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Bertl_oO
rex1's input was useless
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troy_s
Thank god for rex1
03:22
Bertl_oO
I would like to know what motivates those people
03:24
Bertl_oO
the typical 'hate' spammers or 'check out this site' spams I can comprehend ...
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Bertl_oO
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
03:53
Bertl_oO
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09:26
PhilCeeee
morning folks... Nice Job doe by Sebastian at the Cine5d-Talk at NAB
09:27
PhilCeeee
*done
09:28
PhilCeeee
As i am collecting outstanding bills from my customers: yet any idea how long the payment phase 1 will run?
09:30
Bertl_zZ
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09:30
Bertl
morning folks!
09:30
PhilCeeee
morning bertl
09:31
Bertl
probably for a few weeks till we have enough together
09:32
PhilCeeee
cool.. you gonnna let us know in advane i guess
09:32
PhilCeeee
*advance
09:32
PhilCeeee
(gotta clear my keyboard
09:33
Bertl
yes, but keep in mind, the longer you hesitate the longer it will take for everybody else to get their devices
09:34
PhilCeeee
as i said, its not me hesitating, its my customers paying their bills..
09:34
PhilCeeee
;)
09:35
PhilCeeee
*or not paying them..
09:36
Bertl
just stating the obvious
09:36
PhilCeeee
of course..
09:39
PhilCeeee
sadly they probably wont pay their debths faster, if i mention a whole os community depeding on "their" cash.. but might be worth a try
09:39
PhilCeeee
°°°:P
09:43
PhilCeeee
to the cine5d Talk: i allways love the point when the question falls: "what are the benefits of os/ohardware??" - you should answer it by an other question: "Did you ever try to share a song out of itunes?" - that might fit the horizon
09:44
PhilCeeee
How about the tripple hdmi shield - did you make progress?
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se6astian|away
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10:13
se6astian
good day
10:24
se6astian
the song out of itunes only scratches the surface of open source and is actually more copyright related...
12:16
se6astian
time for a walk
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12:20
Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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Bertl
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PhilCee
hey sebastian, i know they implemented the restrictions in itunes for drm reasons - but its what we call a "bild"-argument ( as the german boulevard-press is king like the uk "sun" in bringing arguments on a simple point). Its the simplest way to get users used to closed systems to become aware of their annoying restrictions..
15:05
se6astian
agreed, we need such tangile points to communicate it, but these simple points also need to hold up upon deeper inspection
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19:11
troy_s
Anyone here with a newer late 2015 iMac please ping me.
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22:20
troy_s
Yo Bertl_oO what dimensions are the Maxime Slap raws?
22:22
se6astian
4096x1080 they should be
22:22
intracube
oh, these are the slow-mo bits
22:22
intracube
so they're only central extraction
22:22
troy_s
se6astian: Love you.
22:22
troy_s
se6astian: Thanks sir.
22:22
intracube
so 4096xa lot less than 1536
22:23
intracube
se6astian: thanks
22:23
troy_s
se6astian: New year yet?
22:26
intracube
troy_s: this works: http://www.pasteall.org/63061
22:27
troy_s
intracube: Just change the dimensions and you should be good.
22:27
intracube
yup
22:28
se6astian
still 30 minutes to go :)
22:46
intracube
interesting - the Maxime slap footage seems to have real highlight information left in the red channel
22:46
intracube
even if it looks badly clipped
22:46
intracube
http://i.imgur.com/1R3bRMG.png
22:46
troy_s
intracube: That's nondata
22:46
troy_s
;)
22:46
intracube
centre: very non-linear transform to the highlights
22:47
intracube
looks like data to me
22:47
troy_s
intracube: Yep. Highlights will always be nonlinear as well as shadows.
22:47
troy_s
intracube: I know. It's seductive.
22:47
troy_s
intracube: That's the seductive rubbish of "highlight recovery"
22:47
intracube
really exaggerates the FPN though...
22:47
troy_s
intracube: It's not data.
22:47
intracube
troy_s: all I did was basic curve adjustment to the red channel
22:47
troy_s
intracube: Bertl_oO will school you on that. He did for me with regard to the previous Alpha's region.
22:48
troy_s
intracube: Yep.
22:48
intracube
no blending across channels or such
22:48
intracube
hmm
22:48
troy_s
intracube: But think of it in these terms.
22:48
intracube
http://i.imgur.com/WXwI5CP.png
22:48
troy_s
intracube: If you consider an RGB triplet, it is only 'data' in terms of a colour that it points to.
22:49
troy_s
intracube: That is, isolated, it isn't data at all, it's merely a component of a whole. Without that other information, it isn't data. We could guess and make things up, and in truth it wouldn't be much better than having no information in that bucket.
22:49
troy_s
intracube: But in terms of actual data, where we can pull things apart and use them to reference a colour, it is non data.
22:50
intracube
hmm, think I see what you're saying
22:51
intracube
but either way, it's not-quite-as-hard-clipped as it seemed :P
22:51
intracube
(at least to me) :)
22:52
troy_s
intracube: Except I'd ask you then what "hard clipped" means.
22:52
davidak
can someone help with a systemd capabilities parsing error? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/11184
22:52
troy_s
(For one, are you viewing it in a scene referred editor because I'm pretty sure some of the values go past display referred.)
22:53
troy_s
intracube: But really, to define clip we have to say "OK well what is a pixel?" and that means RGB, so what to sanely do if you want to keep that non data becomes another question.
22:53
troy_s
Chop it makes sense, as it isn't data.
22:55
intracube
troy_s: I'd call something like this hard clipped: http://i.imgur.com/yGJLgly.png
22:55
troy_s
intracube: Yep. We have to chop it though.
22:55
troy_s
intracube: Technically that should look rather wonky if those values are above display referred 1.0 on the G and B
22:55
intracube
looks almost identical to the first example, but no matter how you pull the highlights down, you're met with total smooth nothingness
22:55
troy_s
intracube: Just reel them down and it should look wonk.
22:56
troy_s
Which is good.
22:56
intracube
troy_s: I see what you're saying
22:56
troy_s
intracube: Something is odd there.
22:56
intracube
remembers talk from a few weeks back
22:56
troy_s
intracube: Because you showed some destroyed erratic bits in the G and B yes?
22:56
intracube
not 'real colour data' and such
22:56
intracube
troy_s: ?
22:57
troy_s
intracube: http://i.imgur.com/1R3bRMG.png
22:57
intracube
those are all the red channel
22:57
intracube
not rgb :)
22:58
intracube
sorry, I wasn't that clear
22:58
troy_s
That's very similar to what was in the Alpha
22:58
troy_s
The chunk that Herbert just chopped off
22:58
troy_s
Of course I attempted to make the same case but he explained it very well.
22:58
troy_s
It is simply not data.
22:59
davidak
sorry, whrong channel
23:02
troy_s
intracube: Did you use the OCIO stanzas?
23:02
se6astian
happy new year :)
23:02
troy_s
(I should probably github them. alexML are your's githubbed?)
23:02
troy_s
back at you se6astian
23:02
intracube
troy_s: not yet. this is just the output from imagemagick
23:02
intracube
se6astian: happy new year :)
23:02
intracube
T-1 hour here
23:02
troy_s
intracube: Should have a color cast in that highlight I'd expect.
23:02
intracube
troy_s: the original does, yep
23:02
intracube
greeny
23:03
intracube
yellow-ish
23:03
troy_s
Odd.
23:03
davidak
happy new year
23:03
troy_s
But I guess that is the R filter overlapping into G and such a bit.
23:04
se6astian
off for some champagne
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se6astian
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23:11
Bertl_oO
happy new year from Austria!