| 23:02 | Bertl_oO | well, at the moment, we don't see a real demand for that
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| 23:03 | Bertl_oO | if you want dirt cheap low end, you probably can get away with a raspberry pi with camera
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| 23:04 | Bertl_oO | if you want something better but small sensor/small format (and open/free) then the elphel cameras are probably a good choice
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| 23:04 | aombk2 | oh yes, the elphel
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| 23:05 | aombk2 | anyway, i hope you see some demand for a small sensor module
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| 23:06 | Bertl_oO | I can do you have any particular sensor in mind? just curious
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| 23:06 | Bertl_oO | - I can
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| 23:09 | aombk2 | not really but i havent really looked for such sensors
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| 23:09 | aombk2 | http://www.cmosis.com/products/product_detail/cmv2000
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| 23:10 | aombk2 | ...for example
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| 23:10 | aombk2 | gtg
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| 23:10 | aombk2 | see ya
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| 23:13 | Bertl_oO | @aombk well, as I said, the CMV2/4k will get support, so problem solved :)
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| 23:30 | rex1 | star wars was good
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| 23:31 | rex1 | hateful 8 was brutal
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| 23:35 | Bertl_oO | rex1's input was useless
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| 02:07 | troy_s | Thank god for rex1
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| 02:22 | Bertl_oO | I would like to know what motivates those people
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| 02:24 | Bertl_oO | the typical 'hate' spammers or 'check out this site' spams I can comprehend ...
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| 02:53 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 08:26 | PhilCeeee | morning folks... Nice Job doe by Sebastian at the Cine5d-Talk at NAB
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| 08:27 | PhilCeeee | *done
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| 08:28 | PhilCeeee | As i am collecting outstanding bills from my customers: yet any idea how long the payment phase 1 will run?
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| 08:30 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 08:30 | PhilCeeee | morning bertl
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| 08:31 | Bertl | probably for a few weeks till we have enough together
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| 08:32 | PhilCeeee | cool.. you gonnna let us know in advane i guess
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| 08:32 | PhilCeeee | *advance
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| 08:32 | PhilCeeee | (gotta clear my keyboard
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| 08:33 | Bertl | yes, but keep in mind, the longer you hesitate the longer it will take for everybody else to get their devices
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| 08:34 | PhilCeeee | as i said, its not me hesitating, its my customers paying their bills..
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| 08:34 | PhilCeeee | ;)
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| 08:35 | PhilCeeee | *or not paying them..
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| 08:36 | Bertl | just stating the obvious
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| 08:36 | PhilCeeee | of course..
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| 08:39 | PhilCeeee | sadly they probably wont pay their debths faster, if i mention a whole os community depeding on "their" cash.. but might be worth a try
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| 08:39 | PhilCeeee | °°°:P
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| 08:43 | PhilCeeee | to the cine5d Talk: i allways love the point when the question falls: "what are the benefits of os/ohardware??" - you should answer it by an other question: "Did you ever try to share a song out of itunes?" - that might fit the horizon
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| 08:44 | PhilCeeee | How about the tripple hdmi shield - did you make progress?
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| 09:13 | se6astian | good day
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| 09:24 | se6astian | the song out of itunes only scratches the surface of open source and is actually more copyright related...
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| 11:16 | se6astian | time for a walk
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| 11:20 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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| 14:01 | PhilCee | hey sebastian, i know they implemented the restrictions in itunes for drm reasons - but its what we call a "bild"-argument ( as the german boulevard-press is king like the uk "sun" in bringing arguments on a simple point). Its the simplest way to get users used to closed systems to become aware of their annoying restrictions..
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| 14:05 | se6astian | agreed, we need such tangile points to communicate it, but these simple points also need to hold up upon deeper inspection
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| 18:11 | troy_s | Anyone here with a newer late 2015 iMac please ping me.
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| 21:20 | troy_s | Yo Bertl_oO what dimensions are the Maxime Slap raws?
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| 21:22 | se6astian | 4096x1080 they should be
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| 21:22 | intracube | oh, these are the slow-mo bits
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| 21:22 | intracube | so they're only central extraction
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| 21:22 | troy_s | se6astian: Love you.
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| 21:22 | troy_s | se6astian: Thanks sir.
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| 21:22 | intracube | so 4096xa lot less than 1536
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| 21:23 | intracube | se6astian: thanks
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| 21:23 | troy_s | se6astian: New year yet?
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| 21:26 | intracube | troy_s: this works: http://www.pasteall.org/63061
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| 21:27 | troy_s | intracube: Just change the dimensions and you should be good.
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| 21:27 | intracube | yup
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| 21:28 | se6astian | still 30 minutes to go :)
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| 21:46 | intracube | interesting - the Maxime slap footage seems to have real highlight information left in the red channel
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| 21:46 | intracube | even if it looks badly clipped
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| 21:46 | intracube | http://i.imgur.com/1R3bRMG.png
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| 21:46 | troy_s | intracube: That's nondata
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| 21:46 | troy_s | ;)
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| 21:46 | intracube | centre: very non-linear transform to the highlights
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| 21:47 | intracube | looks like data to me
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| 21:47 | troy_s | intracube: Yep. Highlights will always be nonlinear as well as shadows.
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| 21:47 | troy_s | intracube: I know. It's seductive.
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| 21:47 | troy_s | intracube: That's the seductive rubbish of "highlight recovery"
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| 21:47 | intracube | really exaggerates the FPN though...
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| 21:47 | troy_s | intracube: It's not data.
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| 21:47 | intracube | troy_s: all I did was basic curve adjustment to the red channel
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| 21:47 | troy_s | intracube: Bertl_oO will school you on that. He did for me with regard to the previous Alpha's region.
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| 21:48 | troy_s | intracube: Yep.
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| 21:48 | intracube | no blending across channels or such
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| 21:48 | intracube | hmm
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| 21:48 | troy_s | intracube: But think of it in these terms.
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| 21:48 | intracube | http://i.imgur.com/WXwI5CP.png
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| 21:48 | troy_s | intracube: If you consider an RGB triplet, it is only 'data' in terms of a colour that it points to.
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| 21:49 | troy_s | intracube: That is, isolated, it isn't data at all, it's merely a component of a whole. Without that other information, it isn't data. We could guess and make things up, and in truth it wouldn't be much better than having no information in that bucket.
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| 21:49 | troy_s | intracube: But in terms of actual data, where we can pull things apart and use them to reference a colour, it is non data.
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| 21:50 | intracube | hmm, think I see what you're saying
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| 21:51 | intracube | but either way, it's not-quite-as-hard-clipped as it seemed :P
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| 21:51 | intracube | (at least to me) :)
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| 21:52 | troy_s | intracube: Except I'd ask you then what "hard clipped" means.
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| 21:52 | davidak | can someone help with a systemd capabilities parsing error? https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/11184
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| 21:52 | troy_s | (For one, are you viewing it in a scene referred editor because I'm pretty sure some of the values go past display referred.)
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| 21:53 | troy_s | intracube: But really, to define clip we have to say "OK well what is a pixel?" and that means RGB, so what to sanely do if you want to keep that non data becomes another question.
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| 21:53 | troy_s | Chop it makes sense, as it isn't data.
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| 21:55 | intracube | troy_s: I'd call something like this hard clipped: http://i.imgur.com/yGJLgly.png
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| 21:55 | troy_s | intracube: Yep. We have to chop it though.
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| 21:55 | troy_s | intracube: Technically that should look rather wonky if those values are above display referred 1.0 on the G and B
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| 21:55 | intracube | looks almost identical to the first example, but no matter how you pull the highlights down, you're met with total smooth nothingness
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| 21:55 | troy_s | intracube: Just reel them down and it should look wonk.
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| 21:56 | troy_s | Which is good.
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| 21:56 | intracube | troy_s: I see what you're saying
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| 21:56 | troy_s | intracube: Something is odd there.
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| 21:56 | intracube | remembers talk from a few weeks back
| | 21:56 | troy_s | intracube: Because you showed some destroyed erratic bits in the G and B yes?
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| 21:56 | intracube | not 'real colour data' and such
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| 21:56 | intracube | troy_s: ?
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| 21:57 | troy_s | intracube: http://i.imgur.com/1R3bRMG.png
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| 21:57 | intracube | those are all the red channel
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| 21:57 | intracube | not rgb :)
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| 21:58 | intracube | sorry, I wasn't that clear
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| 21:58 | troy_s | That's very similar to what was in the Alpha
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| 21:58 | troy_s | The chunk that Herbert just chopped off
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| 21:58 | troy_s | Of course I attempted to make the same case but he explained it very well.
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| 21:58 | troy_s | It is simply not data.
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| 21:59 | davidak | sorry, whrong channel
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| 22:02 | troy_s | intracube: Did you use the OCIO stanzas?
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| 22:02 | se6astian | happy new year :)
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| 22:02 | troy_s | (I should probably github them. alexML are your's githubbed?)
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| 22:02 | troy_s | back at you se6astian
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| 22:02 | intracube | troy_s: not yet. this is just the output from imagemagick
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| 22:02 | intracube | se6astian: happy new year :)
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| 22:02 | intracube | T-1 hour here
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| 22:02 | troy_s | intracube: Should have a color cast in that highlight I'd expect.
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| 22:02 | intracube | troy_s: the original does, yep
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| 22:02 | intracube | greeny
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| 22:03 | intracube | yellow-ish
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| 22:03 | troy_s | Odd.
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| 22:03 | davidak | happy new year
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| 22:03 | troy_s | But I guess that is the R filter overlapping into G and such a bit.
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| 22:04 | se6astian | off for some champagne
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| 22:11 | Bertl_oO | happy new year from Austria!
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