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2014/10/30

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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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__anton__
hi, still thinking of the best way to connect interface board with beta board if they boards a several (up to 10) cm apart. Was looking at angle board-to board connectors. Found these https://www.hirose.co.jp/cataloge_hp/e57900025.pdf what is interesting about them is that they recommend leaving 1/3 of the pins as ground pins to provide better "isolation" between ground pins. Is that because they want to have 10Gbps?
02:37
__anton__
Not required for 300Mhz?
02:37
__anton__
better "isolation" between signal pins
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__anton__
also these look much bigger than microheaders, min distance between boards if you stack them is 15mm, perhaps this more "substantial" design is also due to 10Gbps requirement
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lab-bot
philippej closed T41: Create crowd funding backer FAQ article as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T41
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troy_s
OpenShot is ... Uh... Not quite suitable for NLE.
07:38
philippej_
HP's take on 3d printers (expected comments on cartridge prices included) : http://build.slashdot.org/story/14/10/29/1928225/hp-unveils-industrial-3d-printer-10x-faster-50-cheaper-than-current-systems
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PhilCee_
re all..
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PhilCee_
hae? i didnt quit ;)
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
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mars_
hey Bertl
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Bertl
hey mars_! how's going?
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mars_
i'm fine. just now i'm doing a pcb for a customer, a lot of different voltages, multi layer board, ...
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Bertl
sounds interesting
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mars_
challenging but fun :)
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davidak
good morning
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Bertl
morning davidak!
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Bertl
back now ...
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Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good evening
18:39
comradekingu
se6astian: heia :)
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intracube
evening :)
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aombk
i have no experience with bmcc but a lot of footage from it seem very similar colorwise. does bmcc lead to orange/blue footage in general?
19:11
Bertl_oO
very similar to what?
19:24
aombk
to each other
19:33
se6astian
hi comradekingu
19:41
Bertl_oO
aombk: ah, so the 'so called' bmcc 'style'
19:41
Bertl_oO
(or look :)
19:42
aombk
but is there a specific style that this camera leads you somehow to or do all bmcc users have the same "taste"?
19:45
Bertl_oO
I guess it is the predefined color processing which cannot be easily changed if at all
19:51
aombk
this wont be the case in beta i understand, right?
19:52
Bertl_oO
correct
19:52
Bertl_oO
but we still have the 'color profile' of the sensor
19:53
Bertl_oO
which is kind of unique to each sensor type
19:57
aombk
i saw a movie yesterday that had a fucked up image and even though i am a pixel peeper, i enjoyed the image and realized how much the uniformity in fidelity and sharpness and post production/color grading in cinema has exhausted me
19:57
aombk
this may change with your open source camera
20:00
Bertl_oO
hopefully
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aombk
bertl, what makes the sensors "color profile"? the wavelength range of the bayer color films in front of the pixels?
20:02
alexML_
"this may change with your open source camera" -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66GGaWt_sYk :P
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intracube
aombk: have you got any good examples showing this bmcc style?
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aombk
alexML_, thes great! :P
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aombk
intracube, http://vimeo.com/110024810 i have seen this picture style too many times
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aombk
its not that i dont like it
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aombk
*liked it
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intracube
isn't there a rumour/suggestion that the bmcc uses a cmosis sensor?
20:09
aombk
no i dont think so
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aombk
its just speculation
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lab-bot
sebastian closed T89: review new open source page on apertus.org as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T89
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intracube
one thing I noticed with the axiom alpha footage, when you do a basic correction with RGB curves to try and get greys to look neutral (no apparent colour cast)
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intracube
the saturation level of each primary looked different
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intracube
the greens looked very faded, but reds/blues looked closer to how I'd imagine they were in the original scene
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intracube
I've got nothing to back this up. just a hunch/instinct
20:15
intracube
if you increase overall saturation so the trees look good, reds/blues look way to saturated
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intracube
as Bertl_oO said, maybe bmcc aren't fully correcting for the inherent look of the sensor
20:16
aombk
didnt notice that
20:17
intracube
but that vimeo example you posted is heavily graded
20:18
intracube
in parts it almost looks like they were going for an old fashioned two-colour film effect
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intracube
like in The Aviator
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intracube
tho not as extreme
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lab-bot
sebastian created T92: Improving https://apertus.org/opensource. http://lab.apertus.org/T92
20:34
aombk
audiophile products are very popular on crowd funding platforms
20:36
comradekingu
I think its hype thats very popular on crowd funding platforms
20:44
Bertl_oO
glad that there was some AXIOM hype :)
21:06
aombk
if you had some vacuum tubes in the design instead of just fgpas the campaign would have been more successful
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aombk
just be sure to have a vacuum tube on the audio shield in the future
21:07
mars_
i have a bunch of them here, so everyting is possible ^^
21:07
mars_
+h
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mars_
and a 300V bench supply
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aombk
the equivalent of vacuum tubes and vinyl on image?
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aombk
film and wat else?
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lab-bot
sebastian created the document Url http://lab.apertus.org/w/url/
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lab-bot
sebastian deleted the document Url http://lab.apertus.org/w/url/
21:12
aombk
just film?
21:12
comradekingu
Bertl_oO: there was a lot of enthusiasm, what i mean by hype is unprecedented logic, the kind employed by many snake oil campaigns
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mars_
film and your own darkroom
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aombk
well, audio is much more "phile" friendly
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mars_
we could sell videophile cables, only 2k$/m
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aombk
it has more components the add to the occult mystical approach
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aombk
there are people called golden ears in audio. can i be apertus first "golden eye" mascot?
21:36
lab-bot
sebastian created T93: Research 90° HDMI connectors. http://lab.apertus.org/T93
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lab-bot
sebastian created T94: Research Metal plate bending methods/cost for AXIOM Beta enclosure.. http://lab.apertus.org/T94
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lab-bot
sebastian created T95: AXIOM Beta handgrip concept and ergonomics evaluation. http://lab.apertus.org/T95
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lab-bot
sebastian created T96: Separate Lens Mount from Straylight filter part in 3D CAD concept of AXIOM Beta enclosure. http://lab.apertus.org/T96
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lab-bot
allan created T97: Complete set of pictures for members of team. http://lab.apertus.org/T97
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lab-bot
sebastian created T98: "Cupboard" concept design of AXIOM Beta Cage . http://lab.apertus.org/T98
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andrew_levine
@aombk "does bmcc lead to orange/blue footage in general?" It's probably the teal orange terror (http://www.cineplus.ch/kinolut.html)
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Bertl_oO
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comradekingu
Hoping everyone can comment on https://www.apertus.org/home-wip as a landing page, as opposed to https://apertus.org
22:11
comradekingu
I think it makes sense, and then have the rss news on the left hand side
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se6astian
time for bed
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se6astian
good night
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se6astian
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22:39
troy_s
OK. One more time...
22:40
troy_s
Teal orange is not a terror. It is not some grand conspiracy. The most basic colors due to daylight / tungesten axis are blue and orange, and that is precisely what are most common when shooting with a form of achromatic light.
22:41
troy_s
That is, if you shoot at a common 5000k white balance, any daylight or tungsten leaning fixtures or skies or etc. will lean to blue or orange, and as a base, a colorist is likely to not try and fight it out.
22:46
Bertl
no conspiracy?
22:49
troy_s
Nope sadly.
22:49
troy_s
It is mind-numbing that anyone cannot see how it is much beyond a trend. Unless of course, someone wants to amp up the emotional response of a sunset by say, correcting it to green.
22:50
troy_s
Or a beautiful vista to perhaps magenta.
22:52
troy_s
I would also add that a crap color matrix for the camera would skew the values quite badly.
22:54
intracube
troy_s: nobody used the word conspiracy :)
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troy_s
intracube: It is inferred as a trend
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intracube
it's become more of a cliche over the last 10 years
22:55
troy_s
More heavily graded!
23:18
lab-bot
Rebelj12a created T99: Arduino integration for Beta/Gamma accessories.. http://lab.apertus.org/T99
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lab-bot
Rebelj12a created T100: Integrated port for outside lens based accessories.. http://lab.apertus.org/T100
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troy_s
Rebelj12a: What do you mean "port"?
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Rebelj12a
A spot to hook into if the arduino is integrated, ill have more detail in the lab once I can get the ideas down.
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lab-bot
Rebelj12a created T101: OSArduino FF. http://lab.apertus.org/T101
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Rebelj12a
I... may be labeling these wrong.
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Rebelj12a
bha
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Rebelj12a
bah
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lab-bot
Rebelj12a created T102: Lens Accessory (optional mount / development). http://lab.apertus.org/T102