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| 03:34 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 08:58 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 09:22 | masplund | Morning Bertl! I hope you had a good time in Las Vegas.
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| 09:31 | Bertl | yes, it was quite nice, thanks!
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| 09:34 | Bertl | how is it going on your end?
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| 09:49 | masplund | Fine! We have a device candidate for the pre-processing board :-)
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| 09:50 | masplund | xc7k160tffg676-2
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| 09:56 | Bertl | may I ask, why the preference over the XC7A200T
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| 09:56 | Bertl | ?
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| 09:58 | Bertl | I presume because of the higher bandwidth on memory and serial tranceivers, yes?
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| 10:11 | aombk3 | i saw this reply of yours Bertl
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| 10:12 | aombk3 | and i always wondered about telecommunication costs
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| 10:12 | aombk3 | iin other countries
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| 10:14 | aombk3 | because here calls to almost any other country are free
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| 10:17 | Bertl | it's between 2 and 10 EUR per minute, depending on the provider
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| 10:17 | Bertl | (to a zone outside the EU)
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| 11:14 | danieel | what is a preprocessing board?
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| 11:18 | Bertl | the 'interface board' for the AXIOM Gamma
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| 11:18 | Bertl | alexML_: what do you need for noise analysis?
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| 12:35 | Francky | hi
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| 13:07 | Francky | i just red the "NAB Show report"
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| 13:07 | Francky | the picture of the beta is great
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| 13:08 | Francky | did you build the lens mount with your CNC ?
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| 13:30 | Bertl | yes, the lens mount was made with the CNC, Manfred did take care of that
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| 13:31 | Bertl | the base of the lens mount to be precise, the bajonet part is an existing extension tube, IIRC
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| 13:36 | Francky | but isn't it uncompatible with your aim that everybody can build its own camera "easily" ?
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| 13:40 | aombk3 | Francky, not really
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| 13:41 | Francky | but nobody will be able to build its own camera without buying your lens mount right ?
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| 13:41 | Francky | or buying a CNC...
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| 13:41 | aombk | "easily" means there are no artificial obstacles like proprietary designs and protocols
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| 13:42 | Francky | i meant "easily" = with "standard" product expect pcb
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| 13:43 | Francky | but maybe this king of mecanical part are not easy to find and not standard ?!
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| 13:44 | aombk | yes they are not standard
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| 13:45 | aombk | but i am sure if a standard parts solution is found then it will be added to the wiki or a possible how to
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| 13:46 | Bertl | you can probably print the lens mount in your 3D printer at the fab lab and just glue the extension ring to it
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| 13:46 | aombk | it is very possible someone interested can find a combination of lens extension tubes and a way to attach them to the camera body
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| 13:46 | Bertl | it will not have the precision, but it will work
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| 13:47 | aombk | but either way, you have to have some tools and skills
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| 13:47 | Bertl | if you got access to a proper mill (again at a fab lab) you can build it with higher precision, if all else fails, order it somewhere online
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| 13:48 | aombk | easily doesnt mean "no tools and no skills" required
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| 13:48 | Bertl | for those with no technical skills, we will offer complete Betas :)
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| 13:49 | aombk | thats right
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| 13:50 | Francky | yes indeed but i thought that a simple piece like that can afraid some people because i thought building a mecanical piece is not as simple as order pcb
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| 13:50 | Bertl | that's why we will have such parts available in our shop, if there is some demand
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| 13:51 | aombk | Bertl, is there any possibility for you to operate as a custom design cnc mill fab lab or something, sometime in the future?
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| 13:51 | Bertl | so you can choose, depending on your skillset, what you want to build yourself, or just order :)
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| 13:51 | Francky | offer a shop is a good solution indeed
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| 13:52 | Bertl | aombk: we'll see, for now the focus is on apertus (specifically AXIOM and related parts)
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| 13:52 | Francky | how did you do for the alpha ? you didn't have the cnc at this moment right ?
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| 13:53 | Bertl | the design for the Alpha lens mount existed (it was done before my time with apertus) and we had a model made from aluminum (cnc)
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| 13:53 | Bertl | we simply ordered two or three more in Germany from a company doing CNC stuff
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| 13:54 | Francky | ok so it is also custom made pieces
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| 13:54 | Bertl | yes
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| 13:55 | Bertl | I doubt there are off the shelf lens mounts matching the cmosis sensors
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| 13:55 | Bertl | but if you find some, please let us know :)
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| 13:55 | Francky | because it wasn't described on the website (or i have not find it), i thought it was an exernal purshase
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| 13:56 | Bertl | the lens mount model is open (of course) and it should be linked on the web pages somewhere
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| 13:56 | Francky | i don't espescially look for it :) but the picture questionned me
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| 13:59 | aombk | there are sets like these. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888030-REG/vello_ext_cem_manual_extension_tube_set.html i have some and i will test to see if i can find a combination when the time comes
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| 14:01 | Bertl | yes, something like this will work, the "base" just needs to account for the tube length
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| 14:02 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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| 18:48 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 23:49 | intracube | http://irc.apertus.org/ bug bites again
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| 23:51 | Bertl | yeah, I guess we need to find somebody to take care of the web interface :)
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| 23:55 | intracube | Bertl: is the php src for irc.apertus.org available?
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| 23:56 | Bertl | not sure, best check with se6astian
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| 23:56 | intracube | ok
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| 23:56 | intracube | and no labbot on here anymore?
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| 23:56 | Bertl | hmm, haven't noticed that it was gone ...
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| 23:56 | intracube | did it flood the channel one too many times :P
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| 23:57 | intracube | creates bug report: https://lab.apertus.org/T420
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