| 00:03 | anuejn | but there is no /sys/device/axi only /sys/device/amba
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| 00:08 | anuejn | any ideas?
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| 00:37 | Bertl_oO | how did you load it?
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| 00:37 | Bertl_oO | and what happens to the 'bit' (wherever you found it) when you load it (i.e. is it 0 before, then 1?)
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| 00:40 | felix_ | someone working at arri was at the assembly and we talked a bit about cameras and sdi infrastructure and features that would be useful to have that are not difficult to implement, but not present on most affordable hardware
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| 00:41 | felix_ | was quite interesting
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| 00:41 | Bertl_oO | make sure to share it!
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| 00:43 | felix_ | when we build a pcie sdi card, we really should export information like number of crc errors to the userland. also providing an interface to the signal eye scanning unit of the sdi chips would also be really good
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| 00:44 | felix_ | generally making every bit of debug information that is already present in the design will be helpful (that was also my impression when trying to get the decklink card working)
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| 00:45 | felix_ | genlock would also be a feature that is really nice to have, but not that trivial to implement
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| 00:45 | Bertl_oO | genlock on the Beta is rather trivial
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| 00:45 | felix_ | the 2 output and 1 input configuration is also a good idea
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| 00:45 | felix_ | genlock on the sdi side is probably not easy
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| 00:46 | Bertl_oO | what's the issue there?
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| 00:46 | felix_ | the timing is fixed and very likely you have to compensate the slightly different frequencies of the crystal oscillators
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| 00:47 | felix_ | you probably can't just drop or duplicate a line in the blanking area without possibly causing problems with other equipment
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| 00:48 | Bertl_oO | can you elaborate on the scenario (inputs, outputs, sync) you are talking about?
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| 00:49 | felix_ | when you have a reference sdi signal that is fed into the camera you probably have to slightly tune the local oscillator to that frequency
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| 00:49 | felix_ | iirc the decklink cards use a vxco for that
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| 00:50 | felix_ | *vcxo
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| 00:52 | felix_ | packet-based signal transmission is so much better and easier to implement *sigh* ;)
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| 00:52 | felix_ | well, at least the synchronization
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| 00:57 | Bertl_oO | why not feed the SDI clock input to a PLL and use that for the output?
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| 01:00 | Bertl_oO | or alternatively adjust the phase on the TX side if you don't want to regenerate the clock signal (for whatever reason)
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| 01:08 | anuejn | Bertl_oO:
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| 01:09 | anuejn | cat /opt/bitstreams/soc_main.bit >/dev/xdevcfg
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| 01:09 | anuejn | where soc_main.bit is the bitstream from the link above
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| 01:10 | felix_ | Bertl_oO: probably jitter will be a problem with that solution
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| 01:10 | felix_ | will be afk for a while
| | 01:13 | anuejn | Bertl: the bit changes from 0 to 1, when i load the bitstream
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| 01:18 | anuejn | will be afk for some while, too
| | 01:18 | anuejn | lets continue debugging after sleeping, Bertl
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| 01:22 | Bertl_oO | does the hang happen when you access 0x60100000 as well?
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| 03:29 | davidak[m] | there where some people who came to the assembly today and we explained the project and answered questrions
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| 03:29 | Bertl_oO | excellent! good work!
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| 03:30 | davidak[m] | the feedback was very positive. everyone liked the idea of an open hardware video camera
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| 03:30 | Bertl_oO | yeah, the feedback is always quite positive ...
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| 03:42 | davidak[m] | note for next year: start earlier with preparation
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| 03:42 | davidak[m] | and have some concept for the assembly
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| 03:43 | Bertl_oO | doesn't work if nobody is there who sticks to the plan :/
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| 03:43 | davidak[m] | now it's kind of a table with some trash on it :D
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| 03:43 | davidak[m] | and both SDI and HDMI is still not working
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| 03:43 | Bertl_oO | make sure that the trash gets home safely :)
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| 03:43 | davidak[m] | sure
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| 03:44 | davidak[m] | i'm confident we get SDI working tomorrow when florent is there
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| 03:44 | Bertl_oO | hopefully
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| 03:45 | davidak[m] | and when HDMI works, i want to go around and capture some impressions and take pictures
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| 03:45 | Bertl_oO | HDMI requires a 'known working' HDMI plugin (which you probably don't have) and a different Beta firmware
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| 03:46 | davidak[m] | do you have a working image? we are still working to automate the build process
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| 03:47 | davidak[m] | i have an additional microSD card for an HDMI image
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| 03:47 | davidak[m] | is the chance high that a random, untested HDMI module don't work?
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| 03:47 | davidak[m] | they look quiet simple
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| 03:53 | Bertl_oO | see private message
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| 07:22 | davidak[m] | It could get a little late until i show up. so don't wait for me
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| 08:11 | Kjetil | felix_: yes. feeding the recovered TX clock from a transceiver will likely be way to jittery unless an external jitter cleaner is used
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| 08:32 | RexOrCine | davidak: "capture some impressions and take pictures" - Good stuff. From what I've seen the venue is impressive.
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| 14:11 | _florent_ | davidak[m]: can you ping me on this channel when you'll want help with the setup?
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| 14:19 | davidak[m] | florent: i need an hour or so to be at congress again. you can meet with felix and get the SDI output working. ask the VOC if you can connect the beta to the encoder cube
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| 14:24 | _florent_ | ok i'll try to be at the apertus assembly one hour
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| 16:36 | davidak[m] | now i'm at the assembly
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| 16:39 | _florent_ | ok i'm coming
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| 17:20 | _florent_ | we got the first axiom working
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| 17:20 | _florent_ | (with sdi)
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| 17:24 | RexOrCine | Is there something in particular that the cam will be filming?
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| 17:32 | se6astian | I am back in Vienna
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| 17:32 | se6astian | davidak[m]: please take some pictures of the stuff going on at 34C3
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| 18:48 | felix_ | one camera is working now and the second one is sort of working, but the image is flickering a bit; might be some problem with the sensor or its power supply
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| 18:48 | felix_ | the sdi module B has some problems and we replaced it with module C
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| 18:49 | felix_ | module B only works when it gets bent a bit
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| 18:51 | RexOrCine | ping se6astian / Bertl_oO
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| 18:58 | se6astian | here
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| 18:58 | se6astian | thanks for the update felix
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| 22:29 | se6astian | off to bed
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| 22:29 | se6astian | good night
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| 22:35 | davidak[m] | hey se6astian
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| 22:36 | RexOrCine | Here.
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| 22:36 | davidak[m] | i have one photo of the 2 betas and the VOC mixing setup
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| 22:36 | RexOrCine | Are the day's activities over davdiak?
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| 22:36 | RexOrCine | Great
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| 22:37 | RexOrCine | if you email them to team @ I'll do a bit of post on them if it's needed ?
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| 22:37 | davidak[m] | i just had a video mixer shift and got back to the apertus assembly
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| 22:38 | RexOrCine | Did you watch the satnogs talk?
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| 22:39 | RexOrCine | Think they're deliberating over when would be a good time to invest in a DK so I dunno if they'll vist the assembly or not.
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| 22:39 | RexOrCine | pierros is there.
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| 22:40 | davidak[m] | i didn't watch any talk except the opening
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| 22:40 | davidak[m] | will do that the weeks after the event
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| 22:40 | RexOrCine | Ah. Well the videos are going up.
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| 22:41 | davidak[m] | i also saw a preview of the film "all creatures welcome"
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| 22:41 | davidak[m] | it was better than i expected and i already had high expectations
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| 22:43 | RexOrCine | Reading about it now. Do we not get a mention in it?
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| 22:45 | davidak[m] | no, it's about the culture at chaos events
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| 22:46 | davidak[m] | so throw your money at the project so we get the film to creative commons license!
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| 22:46 | davidak[m] | http://sandratrostel.de/projects/allcreatureswelcome/
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| 22:46 | davidak[m] | and inspire future generations of hackers
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