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2016/11/29

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Bertl
back now ...
21:01
davidak
hi Bertl
21:02
davidak
have you and se6astian planned to visit 33C3 this year?
21:10
comradekingu
Im going, but i dont have a ticket for the actual conference
21:10
davidak
:(
21:11
davidak
it's quite a mess with the tickets
21:11
davidak
a friend also still has none
21:12
davidak
i was a volunteer last year so i got a voucher :)
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se6astian
no plans to go to 33C3 I am afraid
21:36
se6astian
the time just after Christmas is just not that suitable I am afraid...
21:37
davidak
why?
21:41
comradekingu
davidak: are you going?
21:41
davidak
yes
21:41
comradekingu
Maybe I can get my axiom beta that way?
21:42
davidak
i don't have any here
21:42
comradekingu
What kind of state will they be in come late december?
21:42
comradekingu
ok
21:42
comradekingu
Are there any import/VAT to pay if i ship it to an address in germany?
21:42
se6astian
no
21:43
comradekingu
Might do that then if they are reasonably done by december
21:43
davidak
you can always see the current state here https://www.apertus.org/axiom-beta-status
21:43
se6astian
maybe we can organize something so a Beta can be demoed there
21:43
se6astian
by one of you :)
21:44
comradekingu
I can atleast stand outside the venue ;)
21:44
davidak
that would be great. but i'm not the person to present something to many people :(
21:44
comradekingu
Get your axioms. Betas for the taking. Aaaaxiom betas everyone.
21:45
davidak
and with many i mean more than 3
21:45
comradekingu
I can do that, and im the sort of person who would ask ccc for a ticket to be a presenter ;)
21:46
davidak
everyone has to buy a ticket
21:46
comradekingu
It is very beneficial to have someone you can talk to
21:46
davidak
i think speakers might get in for free
21:46
davidak
but they have already their selected talks
21:47
comradekingu
Problem was i couldnt buy one, as the queue filled up with bots
21:47
comradekingu
Didnt even make the queue even though i hammered in at 10
21:48
davidak
last year Matthias Tarasiewicz (parasew) was there to present the AXIOM Beta
21:48
davidak
https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7355-apertus_axiom
21:48
comradekingu
se6astian: the info i want is if i get one now, will i have to (or can i) get what parts to complete it later
21:49
davidak
we met also and played around with one :)
21:50
davidak
comradekingu: you get all parts at cost
21:50
davidak
the problem is when you replace parts, you have to buy them again
21:50
davidak
that is why i'm waiting...
21:51
comradekingu
Yes, but assuming i paid already, what sort of delivery plan can i get
21:51
comradekingu
ok
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comradekingu
So i get the camera, that is my order right there. How much extra for the additional parts?
21:51
comradekingu
Assuming i dont wait till they are ready
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davidak
here is a calculation of prices https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19oTtsNECaW0at1J9psPXs8ocnmfVk3HJJYRdcYgaYU4/edit#gid=0
21:55
davidak
the actual price depends on the volume we buy
21:55
se6astian
comradekingu: you mean the metal enclosure you will get later I assume?
21:55
se6astian
leaving for bed soon
21:55
comradekingu
yes
21:56
se6astian
if you want a developer kit without metal enclosure you also dont pay the metal enclosure now
21:56
se6astian
and can just get it later
21:56
comradekingu
I paid in full already
21:56
se6astian
you are not on the list of people seeking to get a developer kit
21:57
comradekingu
If it makes sense to get it for my skillset now i will. If it makes more sense for axiom inc to deliver me a camera later, then im happy to be less costly
21:57
se6astian
I can add you if you want
21:57
comradekingu
what kind of skillset would it require, and how much cheaper is it for axiom inc if i get it later?
21:57
se6astian
I would only recommend to get the developer kit if you really want to develop with the camera
21:57
se6astian
its not that much about price, its more about time resources currently
21:58
se6astian
building cameras to send to developers basically occupies us 100%
21:58
se6astian
so we cant develop ourselves at the moment
21:58
comradekingu
I imagine there are devs more valuable than me then
21:58
se6astian
the more developer kits we build the longer we cannot develop anything
21:58
se6astian
so the developers who receive the kits can develop :)
21:58
comradekingu
i see
21:59
comradekingu
So it is to distribute work in a larger span, not to deliver products
22:00
se6astian
right
22:00
se6astian
to grow the team basically
22:00
se6astian
or grow the things the team can do
22:02
davidak
se6astian: 13.281 people + 1.656 on youtube have watched the recording of the talk 2015
22:02
se6astian
not bad :)
22:02
davidak
also the room was half full
22:02
davidak
it was quite a big hall
22:02
se6astian
we should do something there this year as well
22:02
se6astian
I hope its not too late already
22:02
se6astian
anyway, nothing to solve today anymore...off to bed
22:02
davidak
as you heard it hard to get tickets
22:03
se6astian
yes
22:03
davidak
i'm not sure if everyone can get a ticket who wants one
22:03
davidak
CCC Erfas have vourchers for their members, maybe you know someone there
22:04
davidak
good night se6astian!
22:04
se6astian
not from the top of my head
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se6astian
but I will think about it
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se6astian
good night
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nein
maybe i can clarify the ticket situation a bit...
22:28
nein
basically, all tickets are lod out.
22:28
nein
the erfa vouchers do not have anymore value
22:29
nein
you may only buy a ticket if you have an angel voucher, because you did volunteer work last year...
22:31
davidak
nein: sold out?
22:31
nein
yes...
22:31
davidak
oh, thats bad
22:31
nein
sorry
22:31
nein
yup
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nein
and there are still maaany people, who want to buy one
22:32
davidak
yes
22:32
davidak
i know some
22:32
nein
so it will be very digficult to get some
22:33
davidak
do you know how many tickets are there?
22:36
nein
in total?
22:36
davidak
yes
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nein
i think about 12.000