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06:52 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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08:40 | se6ast1an | good day
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09:21 | se6ast1an | vup was any progress made with https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/axiom-firmware/issues/179 ?
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13:07 | xthenode | happy monday!
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13:08 | xthenode | i was able to build a GL app on the mac so i wonder why SDL2 crashes...
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13:13 | xthenode | the goal is to create a skinable client for web, mobile, desktop and command line
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13:14 | xthenode | if one doesn't exist...
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13:31 | BAndiT1983 | xthenode: what is the purpose of the client? maybe i've missed a part of logs where it's described
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14:49 | Bertl | morning folks!
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15:01 | se6ast1an | good day Bertl
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15:05 | Bertl | thanks! and a good one to you as well!
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15:11 | Shohei | Hello!I'm participating here for the first time. Nice to meet you : )
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15:13 | Bertl | Hello Shohei! nice to see you on IRC!
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15:14 | Bertl | looking forward to hear more about the FOSS/OH movement in Japan!
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15:15 | Shohei | Thank you for replying for the mails, Bertl, se6bast1an : )
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15:15 | Shohei | se6ast1an : )
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15:16 | Shohei | By all means!It may be slow to write, but I'll do my best.
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15:17 | Bertl | no worries, IRC is a very patient medium
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15:17 | Bertl | many discussions here span over days, because folks live and work in different timezones
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15:17 | Shohei | I see!
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15:18 | Bertl | which also means, if you have a question, just drop it here, and idle around (or check the public IRC logs)
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15:18 | Bertl | somebody will answer sooner or later but it might not be immediately
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15:19 | Shohei | I see! Thank you!
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15:21 | Shohei | Is everyone chatting on #apertus only, or are there more specialized channels?
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15:22 | Bertl | while there are some other 'related' channels, the main action is here
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15:22 | Bertl | for example the meeting today will happen on this channel
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15:23 | Bertl | there are also private messages which work just fine if only two people want to coordinate or so
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15:23 | Shohei | I got it, thank you. I will check the public IRC logs to catch up with you : )
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15:24 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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15:25 | Shohei | It's a big help : )
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15:58 | se6ast1an | hi Shohei! great to see you here
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15:59 | se6ast1an | you can read the public logs Bertl mentioned here: http://irc.apertus.org/
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16:15 | Shohei | Great to see you here, too! se6ast1an : ) Thank you very much for the link!
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17:03 | Bertl | no meeting today?
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17:03 | se6ast1an | why not? :)
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17:03 | se6ast1an | MEETING TIME!
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17:03 | se6ast1an | who is here?
| 17:03 | Bertl | is here ...
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17:03 | Shohei | is here
| 17:04 | metal_dent[m] | present
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17:04 | bluez | * bluez is here
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17:05 | se6ast1an | great
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17:05 | se6ast1an | metal_dent[m]: do you have something to share and start the reports?
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17:05 | metal_dent[m] | Yes!
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17:06 | se6ast1an | please do
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17:06 | metal_dent[m] | Last week I worked on multiple tasks. Firstly, I helped Aman with the checkbox code, which is merged now.
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17:07 | metal_dent[m] | Then I stumbled upon my old PR ':D where I tried to reduce the redundant code and now waiting for BAndiT1983|away 's approval
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17:08 | se6ast1an | amans PR: https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/AXIOM-Remote/pull/24
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17:08 | se6ast1an | video: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/54789531/103020612-bf1d0000-456e-11eb-9566-c41b178acc67.mp4
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17:09 | se6ast1an | metal_dent[m]: did you push a revised PR for review already?
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17:09 | metal_dent[m] | We have also created a new task (T1215) to add a desaturation filter on the remote display, I have added the shader code which works fine on the camera preview image (Bertl's image)
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17:09 | se6ast1an | great
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17:10 | metal_dent[m] | <se6ast1an "metal_dent: did you push a revis"> Yes, you can see the new commit there (sorry for the other mess as there was a lot of conflicts ':D )
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17:10 | se6ast1an | link please :)
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17:11 | metal_dent[m] | https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/AXIOM-Remote/pull/17
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17:11 | metal_dent[m] | T1215: https://lab.apertus.org/T1215
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17:11 | se6ast1an | thanks
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17:12 | se6ast1an | butt the last commit to that PRis from May 23rd
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17:12 | metal_dent[m] | That's it from my side!
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17:12 | Bertl | nice
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17:13 | metal_dent[m] | This is the last commit:
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17:13 | metal_dent[m] | https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/AXIOM-Remote/pull/17/commits/d0b109667d0c379507207d04c4936bff080cad06
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17:15 | se6ast1an | very good, thanks!
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17:15 | se6ast1an | bluez: please go ahead next
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17:15 | bluez | sure.. thanks!
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17:16 | bluez | so last week Bertl helped me get up to speed with vhdl and the tcl side of vivado
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17:17 | bluez | this will be helpful with the final testing setup
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17:18 | xthenode | re: xthenode: what is the purpose of the client? a generalized client to be used a control which can be mapped to a particular platform...
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17:18 | bluez | which we will hopefully start this week
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17:18 | bluez | had to lot to learn on the vhdl side ':D
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17:18 | xthenode | in this case axiom...
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17:19 | Bertl | xthenode: we are currently having our weekly meeting
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17:19 | bluez | that's it from me!
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17:19 | Bertl | xthenode: please wait till it is your turn to report :)
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17:20 | Bertl | bluez: thanks!
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17:20 | se6ast1an | great, bluez, many thanks!
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17:20 | se6ast1an | Shohei: would you also like to introduce yourself quickly?
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17:21 | se6ast1an | maybe some people followed the email conversation with you already but live is always better :)
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17:21 | Shohei | Thank you, se6ast1an :)
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17:23 | Shohei | Hello, everyone. I'm mechanical engineer in Japan, and also running small startup focusing on open hardware.I'm very interested in this project, and personally joined : )
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17:24 | se6ast1an | great, thanks Shohei!
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17:24 | Bertl | great to have you here!
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17:24 | se6ast1an | I was already thinking of things we could work on together in the enclosure/CAD area
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17:25 | se6ast1an | lets discuss this soon when you have a better overview of everything
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17:25 | se6ast1an | vup you also have some news for us!
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17:25 | se6ast1an | please go ahead
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17:26 | vup | yeah, well not too much got done over the last week
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17:26 | vup | anuejn and I worked a bit more on the wavelet compression
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17:26 | Shohei | I will be happy to join you!
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17:27 | vup | we have managed to write a python compressor and a python decompressor that actually work in the sense, that the python decompressor can read the output of the python compressor and produce a somewhat sensible result
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17:27 | vup | there are still a few problems even there (the input and output image do not match exactly for some reason, even when doing lossless compression)
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17:28 | vup | and furthermore, the python decompressor currently produces a completely broken image, when feeding it the input from the gateware compressor
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17:29 | vup | currently we think this is due to wrong rounding and too few bits for the intermediate values in the gateware compressor
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17:29 | vup | but we have to experiment there a bit more to get it working
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17:29 | vup | nonetheless, we have figured out a buffering / processing scheme for the gateware that does not use too many bram's / should be quite efficient with them, so thats a big progress
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17:30 | se6ast1an | very cool!
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17:30 | se6ast1an | any news on the usb3 front as well?
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17:31 | vup | well no real news, but we looked at the ft602 again and noticed a very nice feature where it can transmit setting various uvc settings back to the fpga via i2c, which would make for a great sidechannel
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17:32 | vup | also I looked at the firmware of the ft601 again and we will hopefully dump the firmware of the ft602 in the next couple of days and maybe we can figure out how to add such a sidechannel for the ft601 aswell
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17:32 | vup | (the are probably the same chip with just different firmware anyways)
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17:32 | se6ast1an | ah, great!
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17:33 | vup | oh also one thing about the wavelet compression, currently it does not need any RAM bandwidth
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17:33 | vup | so the compression can just be done on the output path (maybe to the usb3 module) and things like the HDMI preview still "just work"
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17:34 | se6ast1an | how do you buffer the image currently?
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17:34 | se6ast1an | or how big buffers are required by the different compression algorithmn steps?
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17:34 | vup | well for the wavelet transformation one only ever needs 6 rows of the image at once (atleast for a single step)
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17:35 | vup | so those just get put into bram's in the fpga
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17:35 | vup | so currently you needs about 12 rows of the image
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17:35 | Bertl | for the FTDI it would probably be most interesting to get bandwidth allocation working (on the USB side) not sure how complicated that would be though
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17:36 | vup | se6ast1an: so about 72KB if I am not mistaken
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17:37 | vup | Bertl: yeah, the usb2 part probably supports isochronous transfers, as the "officially" programmable ftdi mcu's support that
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17:37 | vup | for usb3 we will have to see
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17:37 | vup | but yeah that would also be very nice, I agree
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17:37 | se6ast1an | sounds good, rather performance friendly
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17:38 | Bertl | alternatively we can consider switching to the cypress EZ-USB chips
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17:39 | se6ast1an | there is a fx3 dev kit: https://www.cypress.com/documentation/development-kitsboards/cyusb3kit-003-ez-usb-fx3-superspeed-explorer-kit that could easily be put on a plugin module carrier if that makes sense?
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17:39 | vup | se6ast1an: yep, I was quite surprised it can actually be done this way, we probably will need a bit more buffers in the future, but at maximum a factor of 1.5 more I think (we currently only do grayscale, we probably should split the colors for the bayer images)
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17:40 | vup | yeah, the fx3 is certainly a interesting option aswell
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17:40 | vup | or even just a ecp5 (but thats of course a lot more work)
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17:40 | Bertl | se6ast1an: well, a rather large plugin module :)
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17:40 | se6ast1an | sure, but size is of no concern for development no?
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17:41 | se6ast1an | or would you create a custom plugin module with the chip right away?
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17:41 | vup | a 0.8mm pitch bga should be doable in 4 layers probably, and with the new 6 layer oshpark runs it should certainly be possible
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17:42 | Bertl | I think it would make more sense to design a plugin featuring the FX3
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17:42 | se6ast1an | great, fine for me :)
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17:42 | vup | well if there are no more questions, I am done for today
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17:43 | se6ast1an | many thanks vup!
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17:43 | se6ast1an | quick updates from me:
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17:43 | se6ast1an | not that much happened as I was away over christmas and returned yesterday
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17:43 | se6ast1an | a package with hardware for bluez and metal_dent[m] was posted just before christmas though
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17:43 | se6ast1an | should arrive in a week or 2
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17:44 | se6ast1an | in production news the oshpark panels have been sent to the fab
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17:44 | se6ast1an | and nextpcb has started to discuss the stackup with us
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17:44 | se6ast1an | so fingers crossed
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17:45 | se6ast1an | the proposed prepreg thickness would be a perfect impedance match but some things need to be confirmed/corrected first
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17:45 | se6ast1an | I started looking into dissipative ESD foam suppliers again today
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17:45 | se6ast1an | contacted 2 companies
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17:46 | se6ast1an | and manfred sent me pictures of a new CNC mill he wants to build
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17:46 | se6ast1an | which would be suitable for milling such foam most likely
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17:46 | se6ast1an | the tormach can of course also do it
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17:46 | se6ast1an | but overkill for such a soft material
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17:47 | se6ast1an | as I am on holidays I should have a good amount of time to work on things over the next week
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17:47 | se6ast1an | so if you have tasks for collaboration let me know
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17:47 | se6ast1an | done from my side
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17:48 | se6ast1an | Bertl: please be the closer!
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17:50 | Bertl | well, not too much happened here this week
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17:51 | Bertl | mostly busy with x-mas and similar
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17:52 | Bertl | I did update the TE0714 sata plugin
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17:52 | Bertl | because there was some interest to build that and I made sure that the design is current and the bom can easily be dreived
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17:53 | Bertl | *derived
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17:53 | se6ast1an | so no changes to the design itself?
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17:53 | Bertl | I also updated Vivado to the latest version and created a test bitstream for se6ast1an to play with
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17:53 | se6ast1an | ah yes, forgot to report about thta
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17:54 | Bertl | that's basically it
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17:54 | se6ast1an | what I want to test is the feature of the CMV12000 where it can be exposed while data is being read out
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17:54 | se6ast1an | this should allow maximizing exposure time
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17:55 | se6ast1an | but it comes with some drawbacks and artefacts affecting pixels read out values
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17:55 | se6ast1an | which I want to document properly
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17:55 | se6ast1an | the custom gateware bertl built should enable doing that
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17:56 | se6ast1an | but needs further testing/analysis so I returned the beta hardware to bertl so he can work on it
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17:57 | se6ast1an | Bertl: the sata plugin module design did not contain any design changes I assume?
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17:57 | se6ast1an | *update
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17:57 | Bertl | no
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17:58 | se6ast1an | right
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17:59 | se6ast1an | ok then, anyone else who wants to report/share/comment on anything specific?
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18:01 | se6ast1an | MEETING CONCLUDED!
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18:01 | se6ast1an | many thanks everyone participating!
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18:10 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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