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2014/10/28

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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
01:29
Rebelj12a
Evening
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Rebelj12a
XD
01:30
Rebelj12a
or should i say good evening
01:46
Bertl
both is fine I guess :)
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mars_
morning!
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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Bertl
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good morning
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davidak
good morning se6astian
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se6astian
hi there
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philippej
Morning everyone, the bot is back
09:29
philippej
So if anyone, for exampel wants to discuss T3, feel free :-)
09:29
lab-bot
T3: Document the various options we have for enclosures - http://lab.apertus.org/T3
09:46
lab-bot
philippej closed T16: default "visible to" and "editable to" in project tasks as "Wontfix". http://lab.apertus.org/T16
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lab-bot
philippej closed T78: Mobile Uploads to Phabricator possible? as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T78
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lab-bot
sebastian created T85: Enclosure Backplate add 4 screw connections to lensbase. http://lab.apertus.org/T85
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se6astian
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aombk
"yeah you wish" list
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lab-bot
philippej closed Q1: When I got the crowdfunding perk for a camera at-cost voucher do I HAVE to buy the camera?
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lab-bot
philippej closed Q2: Can I buy the camera earlier than my batch?
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lab-bot
philippej closed Q3: Can I buy the camera later than my batch?
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philippej
Working on T41, anyone welcome to join on the shared google doc linked there
14:14
lab-bot
T41: Create crowd funding backer FAQ article - http://lab.apertus.org/T41
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aombk
what will happen in hitbox?
15:42
troy_s
aombk: ?
15:44
aombk
dont bother
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Bertl_oO
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15:55
Bertl
back now ...
15:56
aombk
i want the beta enclosure to be like this:
15:56
aombk
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PZqGiuRpJFw/T1aVOwt3LLI/AAAAAAAABYo/sGPz2pWyjMo/s1600/jackie.jpg
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aombk
https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/310/2032/1600/tech2.0.jpg
16:00
aombk
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/full/public/image/zulu-1964-005-behind-the-scenes-shot-with-cy-endfield-and-camera-00n-11y.jpg?itok=9W_kzJ6-
16:00
Bertl
yeah, looks nice ... we should adopt the first design
16:01
Bertl
we can use those round thingies for storing cables ...
16:03
aombk
my thoughts exactly
16:25
troy_s
Build a motor on it.
16:26
troy_s
Could be self drivable.
16:26
troy_s
Maybe leave room for six sheets of plywood.
16:29
Bertl
sounds like a plan!
16:41
__anton__
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troy_s
greets __anton__
16:42
__anton__
Hi guys
16:43
__anton__
Small q: sometimes I see photos with small pair of rods on the right side of the camera. That is completely non-standard is it not?
16:53
troy_s
__anton__: What do you mean?
16:53
troy_s
__anton__: We talking about rod adapters and such?
16:55
__anton__
Okay.. if I actually find a photo I'll post. Pls ignore this for now
16:55
troy_s
__anton__: If you are, the rods that live on the side are the Panavision.
16:55
troy_s
__anton__: It's Panavision's rod mount point though I suspect.
16:56
troy_s
(Unless of course, we are talking of completely different things.)
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Even
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Even
good evening
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pizthewiz
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se6astian|away
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__anton__
troy_s: thx for the info.. i remember now where I saw it - cheapest dslr cage. There it was probably some random hack with 15mm rods.
17:33
se6astian
good evening
17:39
troy_s
__anton__: Agree.
17:40
troy_s
__anton__: The Panavision mount position has sort of fallen out of favor largely due to their presence being lower these days. Mostly the cine styled larger 19mm.
17:40
troy_s
(bottom)
17:40
troy_s
__anton__: Still, the placement and height to lens is probably the most important facet for consideration in the housing discussion.
17:41
troy_s
__anton__: No dramatic change to the design by adding that compatibility, and it is a huge gain for cost-effective shooting.
17:43
troy_s
se6astian: Any thoughts on the mount points for the corners of the housing?
17:44
se6astian
not currently, live broadcast will start in 15 minutes
17:44
Bertl
btw, was it intentional, that the email had no time?
17:44
troy_s
LOL
18:10
Even
can i get a link for the broadcast pls?
18:11
Bertl
you don't want that, it seems to suck
18:12
Even
why? =)
18:12
Even
obs isn't that bad
18:12
Bertl
we've seen advertisements for 15 minutes now, stuttering sound, no image
18:12
Even
what about twitch or ustream?
18:13
Bertl
we will figure something out, se6astian wants to switch to google hangout for now
18:13
se6astian
https://plus.google.com/events/cm2kof6k1jbhq7q2t5thv4qu7jc
18:13
se6astian
very buggy
18:14
se6astian
lets hope this works better :)
18:14
Even
do i need a g+ account?
18:15
Even
ah it seems to work
18:15
Bertl
I have picture but no sound
18:15
se6astian
its public
18:15
se6astian
thats good
18:15
Even
would you mind singin a song se6astian?
18:15
aombk
even, can you talk without an account?
18:16
Bertl
well, we can keep the chat here, no?
18:16
Even
aombk, don't know i'm a virgin in g+ hangouts.
18:16
Even
i'm not that much of a g :D
18:17
se6astian
anybody hear me?
18:17
Even
no
18:17
Even
silence
18:17
Bertl
enjoy the silence ...
18:17
aombk
this works too
18:17
aombk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgn4ZI9aNvc
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Bertl
all I ever wanted, all I ever needed ...
18:19
aombk
se6astian, take a look at this also http://aombk.attinom.net/otr/betahive
18:19
aombk
i cannot hear sound
18:19
se6astian
weird
18:19
se6astian
I might try a restart :)
18:19
se6astian
brb
18:20
se6astian
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18:20
Even
yap works
18:20
Even
with echo
18:20
aombk
i hear something
18:20
Bertl
my eyes are hurting because of the blurred image of the lab frontpage .. is that intentional?
18:21
Even
lol @ the applaus button
18:21
se6astian|away
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18:22
Bertl
we have an applause button?
18:22
Bertl
all I see now is the apertus camera in a small circle
18:22
Even
hehe well i'm seeing this hangout thingy for the first time
18:22
Even
https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent%2Fcm2kof6k1jbhq7q2t5thv4qu7jc&wpsrc=yta&ytl=Hgn4ZI9aNvc
18:22
Bertl
and fancy dots at the bottom, with green peaks every now and then
18:22
Even
i can see an applaus and a buh button
18:23
Even
it sounds like the applaus thingy in those sitcoms haha
18:23
Bertl
ah, great, you get a pokemon when you 'Buh'
18:23
Even
:D
18:24
Bertl
still no sound though
18:24
Bertl
maybe some proprietary codec?
18:24
se6astian
seems to work now
18:24
se6astian
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c5an8pjh0v287d4a1p1fajs8kdc
18:25
se6astian
anyone in?
18:26
aombk
yes it says it will start soon
18:26
Bertl
Buh buh works and makes sound
18:26
Bertl
otherwise I do not get any sound
18:26
Bertl
applause makes sound as well :)
18:26
Even
does it need a g+ account now?
18:26
se6astian
http://youtu.be/M6CgyoQ3zrE
18:26
aombk
Bertl, i think you are watching the previous recorded broadcast
18:26
Even
works now!
18:27
aombk
hearing sound too
18:27
aombk
put some audio
18:27
Bertl
ah, great, youtube works
18:27
Even
welcome to the future :D
18:28
se6astian
everybody there
18:28
se6astian
and everybody can see and hear me?
18:28
Even
yap sound is good now
18:28
Bertl
http://xkcd.com/949/
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Even
haha!
18:29
aombk
yes but 720p is not enough
18:29
aombk
streaming res should be the same as your native monitor resolution for fonts to be visible
18:31
Bertl
I think we should find something which works with mplayer <url>
18:31
se6astian
can you hear me and see my screen normally?
18:31
Bertl
resolution (720p) seems unreadable here
18:32
skinkie_
Talking to your TV?
18:32
Bertl
talking to his hand :)
18:32
Bertl
only thing readable is "Welcome to apertus Lab"
18:32
Even
ok is there a button or menubutton to get those tasks sorted?
18:33
skinkie_
se6astian: ctrl - ++
18:33
se6astian
done
18:33
Bertl
the browser window is about 25% of the screen
18:35
skinkie_
readible :)
18:35
Bertl
yeah, at least you can make out the icons now :)
18:36
Bertl
se6astian: pm
18:37
aombk
se6astian, what kind of microphone you use?
18:39
aombk
i will watch later
18:39
se6astian
how is the audio quality
18:40
Bertl
audio is reasonably fine
18:41
se6astian
t83
18:41
se6astian
T83
18:41
lab-bot
T83: auto focus for manual lenses - http://lab.apertus.org/T83
18:42
skinkie_
audio needs dynamic range compression :p
18:42
aombk
i think audio was bad
18:43
Bertl
well, it can be better, surely, but it is recognizeable, no?
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lab-bot
sebastian-test created M2: Test Mock.
18:50
se6astian
any questions so far?
18:50
Bertl
not on my side :)
18:51
skinkie_
can it be less crowded?
18:51
skinkie_
as in, can you modify the interface
18:51
skinkie_
(personalise)
18:51
skinkie_
less items in view
18:51
Bertl
to some degree, yes
18:53
daFred
will phabricator replace github?
18:54
lab-bot
sebastian-test created T86: can we change the default applications in phabricator left hand menu?. http://lab.apertus.org/T86
18:54
Bertl
daFred: it isn't a repository, so no
18:55
Bertl
but it allows to link to repositories and watch them AFAIK
19:01
Even
the link to this video/series should be messaged to newly registered users. maybe include the link in the confirmation email as an introduction vid?
19:01
skinkie_
Thanks :)
19:01
Bertl
it looks reasonably fine (phabricator), email reply is in the works, and there is a command line interface as well
19:01
daFred
will the crowd also have all rights as the dev team?
19:02
se6astian
oh damn I completely forgot to mention the commandline interface :)
19:02
Bertl
there is user management and some projects are 'invite/member' only
19:02
Bertl
so it has a reasonably fine access management
19:03
se6astian
in general we will try to give everyone (new user/dev team) the same amount of access to everything
19:03
se6astian
only if that does proof to not work out we will have to think about ways to prevent vandalism/noise
19:03
Bertl
thanks for the presentation!
19:03
Even
thank you se6astian. it was informative and truly enlightening.
19:03
se6astian
currently any new member can assign a task to random people :)
19:03
se6astian
great you liked it :D
19:04
se6astian
despite all the starting difficulties
19:04
Bertl
ah, yes, thanks for the advertisements :)
19:04
daFred
thanks
19:04
se6astian
:)
19:05
daFred
I'll continue to watch Tormach PCNC videos...
19:06
Even
:D
19:06
Even
pnc 1100?
19:06
Even
pcnc*
19:08
se6astian
me too :)
19:08
daFred
the 770 is built to be disassambled for easier transportation (and would fit into my workshop)
19:09
Even
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY =)
19:09
daFred
Even: do you know the 1100?
19:09
Even
no i have no experience but i have read something in some cnc forums
19:09
Even
looks good though
19:11
daFred
finding out diff of 770 and 1100 at the moment...
19:11
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surami
hey
19:11
Bertl
hey surami!
19:12
Even
what kind of reverse play (umkehrspiel) do those machines have
19:16
daFred
they use ballscrews, depends on the pre-load of nut-balls-screw but should be very low
19:35
Even
daFred: page 14 http://www.tormach.com/uploads/394/PCNC770-3-UM-B1-4-pdf.html
19:38
surami
who is the developer of your website?
19:38
surami
i mean apertus.org
19:39
Even
surami: my guess is se6astian
19:40
surami
i ask because of the webrtc implementation
19:40
Bertl
the software is drupal, for the design you best contact se6astian
19:41
Even
http://whois.domaintools.com/apertus.org =)
19:41
surami
for screencast, for broadcast things in the future...
19:43
se6astian
any ideas are appreciated
19:43
surami
http://bloggeek.me/implement-screen-sharing-webrtc/
19:45
se6astian
Sorry have no time to read that now
19:45
se6astian
what are you suggesting in summary?
19:46
surami
i would like to suggest to build subdomain for this
19:49
surami
to combine webrtc screensharing, one to many audio broadcasting and irc window (https://www.apertus.org/irc-chat)
19:53
surami
https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/broadcast/
19:56
surami
but here are many other opotions too: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/
20:00
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20:01
troy_s
Is the broadcast still ongoing?
20:02
Bertl
nope, finished some time ago
20:02
troy_s
I see the archive Hangout.
20:02
troy_s
Did it go OK?
20:03
Bertl
not really
20:03
troy_s
Great.
20:03
troy_s
How come?
20:03
Bertl
lot of technical troubles and quite poor quality overall
20:04
troy_s
The Hangout archive seems fine.
20:04
Bertl
(see irc log)
20:04
troy_s
Interesting. You can flag chapters in the Hangout.
20:04
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troy_s
That's kind of handy.
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surami
and here are more demos: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/RTCMultiConnection/
20:29
surami
ciao all
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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
22:01
Bertl
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22:01
__anton__
hi, a question on microzed (don't have one yet): does it come with Linux that can use HDMI for normal video output?
22:02
__anton__
e.g. can you plug a keyboard, an hdmi display and interact with it normally?
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daFred
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__anton__
err.. looks like i was wrong, no hdmi directly on microzed
22:17
__anton__
...but I should still be able to telnet in via the USB cable somehow, right?
22:24
se6astian
no linux framebuffer over hdmi out of the box correct
22:24
se6astian
serial console over usb is supported yes
22:24
se6astian
its a dedicated usb port
22:25
se6astian
time for bed
22:25
se6astian
good night
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se6astian
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22:25
Even
http://zedboard.org/sites/default/files/documentations/QSC-Z7MB-7Z010-G-v1d_0.pdf
22:35
__anton__
Thx guys, this helps
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