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01:29 | Bertl | morning folks!
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01:29 | Rebelj12a | Evening
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01:29 | Rebelj12a | XD
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01:30 | Rebelj12a | or should i say good evening
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01:46 | Bertl | both is fine I guess :)
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06:02 | mars_ | morning!
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06:43 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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07:45 | se6astian | good morning
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07:50 | davidak | good morning se6astian
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07:54 | se6astian | hi there
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09:26 | philippej | Morning everyone, the bot is back
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09:29 | philippej | So if anyone, for exampel wants to discuss T3, feel free :-)
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09:29 | lab-bot | T3: Document the various options we have for enclosures - http://lab.apertus.org/T3
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09:46 | lab-bot | philippej closed T16: default "visible to" and "editable to" in project tasks as "Wontfix". http://lab.apertus.org/T16
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12:56 | lab-bot | sebastian created T85: Enclosure Backplate add 4 screw connections to lensbase. http://lab.apertus.org/T85
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13:46 | aombk | "yeah you wish" list
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14:11 | lab-bot | philippej closed Q1: When I got the crowdfunding perk for a camera at-cost voucher do I HAVE to buy the camera?
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14:12 | lab-bot | philippej closed Q2: Can I buy the camera earlier than my batch?
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14:12 | lab-bot | philippej closed Q3: Can I buy the camera later than my batch?
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14:13 | philippej | Working on T41, anyone welcome to join on the shared google doc linked there
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14:14 | lab-bot | T41: Create crowd funding backer FAQ article - http://lab.apertus.org/T41
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15:24 | aombk | what will happen in hitbox?
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15:42 | troy_s | aombk: ?
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15:44 | aombk | dont bother
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15:55 | Bertl | back now ...
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15:56 | aombk | i want the beta enclosure to be like this:
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15:56 | aombk | https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PZqGiuRpJFw/T1aVOwt3LLI/AAAAAAAABYo/sGPz2pWyjMo/s1600/jackie.jpg
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16:00 | aombk | https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/310/2032/1600/tech2.0.jpg
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16:00 | aombk | http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/full/public/image/zulu-1964-005-behind-the-scenes-shot-with-cy-endfield-and-camera-00n-11y.jpg?itok=9W_kzJ6-
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16:00 | Bertl | yeah, looks nice ... we should adopt the first design
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16:01 | Bertl | we can use those round thingies for storing cables ...
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16:03 | aombk | my thoughts exactly
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16:25 | troy_s | Build a motor on it.
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16:26 | troy_s | Could be self drivable.
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16:26 | troy_s | Maybe leave room for six sheets of plywood.
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16:29 | Bertl | sounds like a plan!
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16:41 | troy_s | greets __anton__
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16:42 | __anton__ | Hi guys
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16:43 | __anton__ | Small q: sometimes I see photos with small pair of rods on the right side of the camera. That is completely non-standard is it not?
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16:53 | troy_s | __anton__: What do you mean?
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16:53 | troy_s | __anton__: We talking about rod adapters and such?
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16:55 | __anton__ | Okay.. if I actually find a photo I'll post. Pls ignore this for now
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16:55 | troy_s | __anton__: If you are, the rods that live on the side are the Panavision.
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16:55 | troy_s | __anton__: It's Panavision's rod mount point though I suspect.
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16:56 | troy_s | (Unless of course, we are talking of completely different things.)
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17:26 | Even | good evening
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17:31 | __anton__ | troy_s: thx for the info.. i remember now where I saw it - cheapest dslr cage. There it was probably some random hack with 15mm rods.
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17:33 | se6astian | good evening
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17:39 | troy_s | __anton__: Agree.
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17:40 | troy_s | __anton__: The Panavision mount position has sort of fallen out of favor largely due to their presence being lower these days. Mostly the cine styled larger 19mm.
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17:40 | troy_s | (bottom)
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17:40 | troy_s | __anton__: Still, the placement and height to lens is probably the most important facet for consideration in the housing discussion.
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17:41 | troy_s | __anton__: No dramatic change to the design by adding that compatibility, and it is a huge gain for cost-effective shooting.
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17:43 | troy_s | se6astian: Any thoughts on the mount points for the corners of the housing?
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17:44 | se6astian | not currently, live broadcast will start in 15 minutes
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17:44 | Bertl | btw, was it intentional, that the email had no time?
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17:44 | troy_s | LOL
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18:10 | Even | can i get a link for the broadcast pls?
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18:11 | Bertl | you don't want that, it seems to suck
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18:12 | Even | why? =)
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18:12 | Even | obs isn't that bad
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18:12 | Bertl | we've seen advertisements for 15 minutes now, stuttering sound, no image
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18:12 | Even | what about twitch or ustream?
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18:13 | Bertl | we will figure something out, se6astian wants to switch to google hangout for now
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18:13 | se6astian | https://plus.google.com/events/cm2kof6k1jbhq7q2t5thv4qu7jc
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18:13 | se6astian | very buggy
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18:14 | se6astian | lets hope this works better :)
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18:14 | Even | do i need a g+ account?
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18:15 | Even | ah it seems to work
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18:15 | Bertl | I have picture but no sound
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18:15 | se6astian | its public
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18:15 | se6astian | thats good
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18:15 | Even | would you mind singin a song se6astian?
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18:15 | aombk | even, can you talk without an account?
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18:16 | Bertl | well, we can keep the chat here, no?
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18:16 | Even | aombk, don't know i'm a virgin in g+ hangouts.
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18:16 | Even | i'm not that much of a g :D
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18:17 | se6astian | anybody hear me?
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18:17 | Even | no
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18:17 | Even | silence
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18:17 | Bertl | enjoy the silence ...
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18:17 | aombk | this works too
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18:17 | aombk | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgn4ZI9aNvc
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18:18 | Bertl | all I ever wanted, all I ever needed ...
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18:19 | aombk | se6astian, take a look at this also http://aombk.attinom.net/otr/betahive
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18:19 | aombk | i cannot hear sound
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18:19 | se6astian | weird
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18:19 | se6astian | I might try a restart :)
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18:19 | se6astian | brb
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18:20 | Even | yap works
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18:20 | Even | with echo
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18:20 | aombk | i hear something
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18:20 | Bertl | my eyes are hurting because of the blurred image of the lab frontpage .. is that intentional?
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18:21 | Even | lol @ the applaus button
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18:22 | Bertl | we have an applause button?
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18:22 | Bertl | all I see now is the apertus camera in a small circle
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18:22 | Even | hehe well i'm seeing this hangout thingy for the first time
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18:22 | Even | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent%2Fcm2kof6k1jbhq7q2t5thv4qu7jc&wpsrc=yta&ytl=Hgn4ZI9aNvc
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18:22 | Bertl | and fancy dots at the bottom, with green peaks every now and then
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18:22 | Even | i can see an applaus and a buh button
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18:23 | Even | it sounds like the applaus thingy in those sitcoms haha
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18:23 | Bertl | ah, great, you get a pokemon when you 'Buh'
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18:23 | Even | :D
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18:24 | Bertl | still no sound though
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18:24 | Bertl | maybe some proprietary codec?
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18:24 | se6astian | seems to work now
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18:24 | se6astian | https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c5an8pjh0v287d4a1p1fajs8kdc
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18:25 | se6astian | anyone in?
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18:26 | aombk | yes it says it will start soon
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18:26 | Bertl | Buh buh works and makes sound
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18:26 | Bertl | otherwise I do not get any sound
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18:26 | Bertl | applause makes sound as well :)
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18:26 | Even | does it need a g+ account now?
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18:26 | se6astian | http://youtu.be/M6CgyoQ3zrE
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18:26 | aombk | Bertl, i think you are watching the previous recorded broadcast
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18:26 | Even | works now!
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18:27 | aombk | hearing sound too
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18:27 | aombk | put some audio
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18:27 | Bertl | ah, great, youtube works
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18:27 | Even | welcome to the future :D
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18:28 | se6astian | everybody there
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18:28 | se6astian | and everybody can see and hear me?
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18:28 | Even | yap sound is good now
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18:28 | Bertl | http://xkcd.com/949/
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18:29 | Even | haha!
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18:29 | aombk | yes but 720p is not enough
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18:29 | aombk | streaming res should be the same as your native monitor resolution for fonts to be visible
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18:31 | Bertl | I think we should find something which works with mplayer <url>
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18:31 | se6astian | can you hear me and see my screen normally?
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18:31 | Bertl | resolution (720p) seems unreadable here
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18:32 | skinkie_ | Talking to your TV?
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18:32 | Bertl | talking to his hand :)
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18:32 | Bertl | only thing readable is "Welcome to apertus Lab"
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18:32 | Even | ok is there a button or menubutton to get those tasks sorted?
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18:33 | skinkie_ | se6astian: ctrl - ++
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18:33 | se6astian | done
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18:33 | Bertl | the browser window is about 25% of the screen
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18:35 | skinkie_ | readible :)
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18:35 | Bertl | yeah, at least you can make out the icons now :)
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18:36 | Bertl | se6astian: pm
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18:37 | aombk | se6astian, what kind of microphone you use?
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18:39 | aombk | i will watch later
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18:39 | se6astian | how is the audio quality
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18:40 | Bertl | audio is reasonably fine
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18:41 | se6astian | t83
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18:41 | se6astian | T83
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18:41 | lab-bot | T83: auto focus for manual lenses - http://lab.apertus.org/T83
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18:42 | skinkie_ | audio needs dynamic range compression :p
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18:42 | aombk | i think audio was bad
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18:43 | Bertl | well, it can be better, surely, but it is recognizeable, no?
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18:46 | lab-bot | sebastian-test created M2: Test Mock.
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18:50 | se6astian | any questions so far?
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18:50 | Bertl | not on my side :)
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18:51 | skinkie_ | can it be less crowded?
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18:51 | skinkie_ | as in, can you modify the interface
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18:51 | skinkie_ | (personalise)
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18:51 | skinkie_ | less items in view
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18:51 | Bertl | to some degree, yes
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18:53 | daFred | will phabricator replace github?
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18:54 | lab-bot | sebastian-test created T86: can we change the default applications in phabricator left hand menu?. http://lab.apertus.org/T86
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18:54 | Bertl | daFred: it isn't a repository, so no
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18:55 | Bertl | but it allows to link to repositories and watch them AFAIK
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19:01 | Even | the link to this video/series should be messaged to newly registered users. maybe include the link in the confirmation email as an introduction vid?
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19:01 | skinkie_ | Thanks :)
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19:01 | Bertl | it looks reasonably fine (phabricator), email reply is in the works, and there is a command line interface as well
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19:01 | daFred | will the crowd also have all rights as the dev team?
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19:02 | se6astian | oh damn I completely forgot to mention the commandline interface :)
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19:02 | Bertl | there is user management and some projects are 'invite/member' only
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19:02 | Bertl | so it has a reasonably fine access management
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19:03 | se6astian | in general we will try to give everyone (new user/dev team) the same amount of access to everything
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19:03 | se6astian | only if that does proof to not work out we will have to think about ways to prevent vandalism/noise
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19:03 | Bertl | thanks for the presentation!
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19:03 | Even | thank you se6astian. it was informative and truly enlightening.
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19:03 | se6astian | currently any new member can assign a task to random people :)
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19:03 | se6astian | great you liked it :D
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19:04 | se6astian | despite all the starting difficulties
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19:04 | Bertl | ah, yes, thanks for the advertisements :)
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19:04 | daFred | thanks
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19:04 | se6astian | :)
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19:05 | daFred | I'll continue to watch Tormach PCNC videos...
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19:06 | Even | :D
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19:06 | Even | pnc 1100?
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19:06 | Even | pcnc*
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19:08 | se6astian | me too :)
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19:08 | daFred | the 770 is built to be disassambled for easier transportation (and would fit into my workshop)
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19:09 | Even | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY =)
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19:09 | daFred | Even: do you know the 1100?
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19:09 | Even | no i have no experience but i have read something in some cnc forums
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19:09 | Even | looks good though
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19:11 | daFred | finding out diff of 770 and 1100 at the moment...
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19:11 | surami | hey
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19:11 | Bertl | hey surami!
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19:12 | Even | what kind of reverse play (umkehrspiel) do those machines have
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19:16 | daFred | they use ballscrews, depends on the pre-load of nut-balls-screw but should be very low
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19:35 | Even | daFred: page 14 http://www.tormach.com/uploads/394/PCNC770-3-UM-B1-4-pdf.html
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19:38 | surami | who is the developer of your website?
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19:38 | surami | i mean apertus.org
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19:39 | Even | surami: my guess is se6astian
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19:40 | surami | i ask because of the webrtc implementation
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19:40 | Bertl | the software is drupal, for the design you best contact se6astian
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19:41 | Even | http://whois.domaintools.com/apertus.org =)
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19:41 | surami | for screencast, for broadcast things in the future...
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19:43 | se6astian | any ideas are appreciated
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19:43 | surami | http://bloggeek.me/implement-screen-sharing-webrtc/
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19:45 | se6astian | Sorry have no time to read that now
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19:45 | se6astian | what are you suggesting in summary?
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19:46 | surami | i would like to suggest to build subdomain for this
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19:49 | surami | to combine webrtc screensharing, one to many audio broadcasting and irc window (https://www.apertus.org/irc-chat)
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19:53 | surami | https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/broadcast/
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19:56 | surami | but here are many other opotions too: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/
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20:01 | troy_s | Is the broadcast still ongoing?
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20:02 | Bertl | nope, finished some time ago
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20:02 | troy_s | I see the archive Hangout.
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20:02 | troy_s | Did it go OK?
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20:03 | Bertl | not really
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20:03 | troy_s | Great.
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20:03 | troy_s | How come?
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20:03 | Bertl | lot of technical troubles and quite poor quality overall
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20:04 | troy_s | The Hangout archive seems fine.
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20:04 | Bertl | (see irc log)
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20:04 | troy_s | Interesting. You can flag chapters in the Hangout.
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20:04 | troy_s | That's kind of handy.
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20:20 | surami | and here are more demos: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/RTCMultiConnection/
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20:29 | surami | ciao all
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22:01 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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22:01 | __anton__ | hi, a question on microzed (don't have one yet): does it come with Linux that can use HDMI for normal video output?
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22:02 | __anton__ | e.g. can you plug a keyboard, an hdmi display and interact with it normally?
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22:11 | __anton__ | err.. looks like i was wrong, no hdmi directly on microzed
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22:17 | __anton__ | ...but I should still be able to telnet in via the USB cable somehow, right?
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22:24 | se6astian | no linux framebuffer over hdmi out of the box correct
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22:24 | se6astian | serial console over usb is supported yes
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22:24 | se6astian | its a dedicated usb port
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22:25 | se6astian | time for bed
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22:25 | se6astian | good night
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22:25 | Even | http://zedboard.org/sites/default/files/documentations/QSC-Z7MB-7Z010-G-v1d_0.pdf
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22:35 | __anton__ | Thx guys, this helps
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