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2014/10/28

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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
02:29
Rebelj12a
Evening
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Rebelj12a
XD
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Rebelj12a
or should i say good evening
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Bertl
both is fine I guess :)
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mars_
morning!
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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Bertl
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good morning
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davidak
good morning se6astian
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se6astian
hi there
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philippej
Morning everyone, the bot is back
10:29
philippej
So if anyone, for exampel wants to discuss T3, feel free :-)
10:29
lab-bot
T3: Document the various options we have for enclosures - http://lab.apertus.org/T3
10:46
lab-bot
philippej closed T16: default "visible to" and "editable to" in project tasks as "Wontfix". http://lab.apertus.org/T16
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lab-bot
philippej closed T78: Mobile Uploads to Phabricator possible? as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T78
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lab-bot
sebastian created T85: Enclosure Backplate add 4 screw connections to lensbase. http://lab.apertus.org/T85
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se6astian
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aombk
"yeah you wish" list
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lab-bot
philippej closed Q1: When I got the crowdfunding perk for a camera at-cost voucher do I HAVE to buy the camera?
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lab-bot
philippej closed Q2: Can I buy the camera earlier than my batch?
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lab-bot
philippej closed Q3: Can I buy the camera later than my batch?
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philippej
Working on T41, anyone welcome to join on the shared google doc linked there
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lab-bot
T41: Create crowd funding backer FAQ article - http://lab.apertus.org/T41
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aombk
what will happen in hitbox?
16:42
troy_s
aombk: ?
16:44
aombk
dont bother
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Bertl_oO
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Bertl
back now ...
16:56
aombk
i want the beta enclosure to be like this:
16:56
aombk
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PZqGiuRpJFw/T1aVOwt3LLI/AAAAAAAABYo/sGPz2pWyjMo/s1600/jackie.jpg
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aombk
https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/310/2032/1600/tech2.0.jpg
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aombk
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/styles/full/public/image/zulu-1964-005-behind-the-scenes-shot-with-cy-endfield-and-camera-00n-11y.jpg?itok=9W_kzJ6-
17:00
Bertl
yeah, looks nice ... we should adopt the first design
17:01
Bertl
we can use those round thingies for storing cables ...
17:03
aombk
my thoughts exactly
17:25
troy_s
Build a motor on it.
17:26
troy_s
Could be self drivable.
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troy_s
Maybe leave room for six sheets of plywood.
17:29
Bertl
sounds like a plan!
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__anton__
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troy_s
greets __anton__
17:42
__anton__
Hi guys
17:43
__anton__
Small q: sometimes I see photos with small pair of rods on the right side of the camera. That is completely non-standard is it not?
17:53
troy_s
__anton__: What do you mean?
17:53
troy_s
__anton__: We talking about rod adapters and such?
17:55
__anton__
Okay.. if I actually find a photo I'll post. Pls ignore this for now
17:55
troy_s
__anton__: If you are, the rods that live on the side are the Panavision.
17:55
troy_s
__anton__: It's Panavision's rod mount point though I suspect.
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troy_s
(Unless of course, we are talking of completely different things.)
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Even
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Even
good evening
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pizthewiz
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se6astian|away
changed nick to: se6astian
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__anton__
troy_s: thx for the info.. i remember now where I saw it - cheapest dslr cage. There it was probably some random hack with 15mm rods.
18:33
se6astian
good evening
18:39
troy_s
__anton__: Agree.
18:40
troy_s
__anton__: The Panavision mount position has sort of fallen out of favor largely due to their presence being lower these days. Mostly the cine styled larger 19mm.
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troy_s
(bottom)
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troy_s
__anton__: Still, the placement and height to lens is probably the most important facet for consideration in the housing discussion.
18:41
troy_s
__anton__: No dramatic change to the design by adding that compatibility, and it is a huge gain for cost-effective shooting.
18:43
troy_s
se6astian: Any thoughts on the mount points for the corners of the housing?
18:44
se6astian
not currently, live broadcast will start in 15 minutes
18:44
Bertl
btw, was it intentional, that the email had no time?
18:44
troy_s
LOL
19:10
Even
can i get a link for the broadcast pls?
19:11
Bertl
you don't want that, it seems to suck
19:12
Even
why? =)
19:12
Even
obs isn't that bad
19:12
Bertl
we've seen advertisements for 15 minutes now, stuttering sound, no image
19:12
Even
what about twitch or ustream?
19:13
Bertl
we will figure something out, se6astian wants to switch to google hangout for now
19:13
se6astian
https://plus.google.com/events/cm2kof6k1jbhq7q2t5thv4qu7jc
19:13
se6astian
very buggy
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se6astian
lets hope this works better :)
19:14
Even
do i need a g+ account?
19:15
Even
ah it seems to work
19:15
Bertl
I have picture but no sound
19:15
se6astian
its public
19:15
se6astian
thats good
19:15
Even
would you mind singin a song se6astian?
19:15
aombk
even, can you talk without an account?
19:16
Bertl
well, we can keep the chat here, no?
19:16
Even
aombk, don't know i'm a virgin in g+ hangouts.
19:16
Even
i'm not that much of a g :D
19:17
se6astian
anybody hear me?
19:17
Even
no
19:17
Even
silence
19:17
Bertl
enjoy the silence ...
19:17
aombk
this works too
19:17
aombk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgn4ZI9aNvc
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Bertl
all I ever wanted, all I ever needed ...
19:19
aombk
se6astian, take a look at this also http://aombk.attinom.net/otr/betahive
19:19
aombk
i cannot hear sound
19:19
se6astian
weird
19:19
se6astian
I might try a restart :)
19:19
se6astian
brb
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se6astian
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19:20
Even
yap works
19:20
Even
with echo
19:20
aombk
i hear something
19:20
Bertl
my eyes are hurting because of the blurred image of the lab frontpage .. is that intentional?
19:21
Even
lol @ the applaus button
19:21
se6astian|away
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19:22
Bertl
we have an applause button?
19:22
Bertl
all I see now is the apertus camera in a small circle
19:22
Even
hehe well i'm seeing this hangout thingy for the first time
19:22
Even
https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent%2Fcm2kof6k1jbhq7q2t5thv4qu7jc&wpsrc=yta&ytl=Hgn4ZI9aNvc
19:22
Bertl
and fancy dots at the bottom, with green peaks every now and then
19:22
Even
i can see an applaus and a buh button
19:23
Even
it sounds like the applaus thingy in those sitcoms haha
19:23
Bertl
ah, great, you get a pokemon when you 'Buh'
19:23
Even
:D
19:24
Bertl
still no sound though
19:24
Bertl
maybe some proprietary codec?
19:24
se6astian
seems to work now
19:24
se6astian
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c5an8pjh0v287d4a1p1fajs8kdc
19:25
se6astian
anyone in?
19:26
aombk
yes it says it will start soon
19:26
Bertl
Buh buh works and makes sound
19:26
Bertl
otherwise I do not get any sound
19:26
Bertl
applause makes sound as well :)
19:26
Even
does it need a g+ account now?
19:26
se6astian
http://youtu.be/M6CgyoQ3zrE
19:26
aombk
Bertl, i think you are watching the previous recorded broadcast
19:26
Even
works now!
19:27
aombk
hearing sound too
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aombk
put some audio
19:27
Bertl
ah, great, youtube works
19:27
Even
welcome to the future :D
19:28
se6astian
everybody there
19:28
se6astian
and everybody can see and hear me?
19:28
Even
yap sound is good now
19:28
Bertl
http://xkcd.com/949/
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Even
haha!
19:29
aombk
yes but 720p is not enough
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aombk
streaming res should be the same as your native monitor resolution for fonts to be visible
19:31
Bertl
I think we should find something which works with mplayer <url>
19:31
se6astian
can you hear me and see my screen normally?
19:31
Bertl
resolution (720p) seems unreadable here
19:32
skinkie_
Talking to your TV?
19:32
Bertl
talking to his hand :)
19:32
Bertl
only thing readable is "Welcome to apertus Lab"
19:32
Even
ok is there a button or menubutton to get those tasks sorted?
19:33
skinkie_
se6astian: ctrl - ++
19:33
se6astian
done
19:33
Bertl
the browser window is about 25% of the screen
19:35
skinkie_
readible :)
19:35
Bertl
yeah, at least you can make out the icons now :)
19:36
Bertl
se6astian: pm
19:37
aombk
se6astian, what kind of microphone you use?
19:39
aombk
i will watch later
19:39
se6astian
how is the audio quality
19:40
Bertl
audio is reasonably fine
19:41
se6astian
t83
19:41
se6astian
T83
19:41
lab-bot
T83: auto focus for manual lenses - http://lab.apertus.org/T83
19:42
skinkie_
audio needs dynamic range compression :p
19:42
aombk
i think audio was bad
19:43
Bertl
well, it can be better, surely, but it is recognizeable, no?
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lab-bot
sebastian-test created M2: Test Mock.
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se6astian
any questions so far?
19:50
Bertl
not on my side :)
19:51
skinkie_
can it be less crowded?
19:51
skinkie_
as in, can you modify the interface
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skinkie_
(personalise)
19:51
skinkie_
less items in view
19:51
Bertl
to some degree, yes
19:53
daFred
will phabricator replace github?
19:54
lab-bot
sebastian-test created T86: can we change the default applications in phabricator left hand menu?. http://lab.apertus.org/T86
19:54
Bertl
daFred: it isn't a repository, so no
19:55
Bertl
but it allows to link to repositories and watch them AFAIK
20:01
Even
the link to this video/series should be messaged to newly registered users. maybe include the link in the confirmation email as an introduction vid?
20:01
skinkie_
Thanks :)
20:01
Bertl
it looks reasonably fine (phabricator), email reply is in the works, and there is a command line interface as well
20:01
daFred
will the crowd also have all rights as the dev team?
20:02
se6astian
oh damn I completely forgot to mention the commandline interface :)
20:02
Bertl
there is user management and some projects are 'invite/member' only
20:02
Bertl
so it has a reasonably fine access management
20:03
se6astian
in general we will try to give everyone (new user/dev team) the same amount of access to everything
20:03
se6astian
only if that does proof to not work out we will have to think about ways to prevent vandalism/noise
20:03
Bertl
thanks for the presentation!
20:03
Even
thank you se6astian. it was informative and truly enlightening.
20:03
se6astian
currently any new member can assign a task to random people :)
20:03
se6astian
great you liked it :D
20:04
se6astian
despite all the starting difficulties
20:04
Bertl
ah, yes, thanks for the advertisements :)
20:04
daFred
thanks
20:04
se6astian
:)
20:05
daFred
I'll continue to watch Tormach PCNC videos...
20:06
Even
:D
20:06
Even
pnc 1100?
20:06
Even
pcnc*
20:08
se6astian
me too :)
20:08
daFred
the 770 is built to be disassambled for easier transportation (and would fit into my workshop)
20:09
Even
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnIvhlKT7SY =)
20:09
daFred
Even: do you know the 1100?
20:09
Even
no i have no experience but i have read something in some cnc forums
20:09
Even
looks good though
20:11
daFred
finding out diff of 770 and 1100 at the moment...
20:11
surami
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surami
hey
20:11
Bertl
hey surami!
20:12
Even
what kind of reverse play (umkehrspiel) do those machines have
20:16
daFred
they use ballscrews, depends on the pre-load of nut-balls-screw but should be very low
20:35
Even
daFred: page 14 http://www.tormach.com/uploads/394/PCNC770-3-UM-B1-4-pdf.html
20:38
surami
who is the developer of your website?
20:38
surami
i mean apertus.org
20:39
Even
surami: my guess is se6astian
20:40
surami
i ask because of the webrtc implementation
20:40
Bertl
the software is drupal, for the design you best contact se6astian
20:41
Even
http://whois.domaintools.com/apertus.org =)
20:41
surami
for screencast, for broadcast things in the future...
20:43
se6astian
any ideas are appreciated
20:43
surami
http://bloggeek.me/implement-screen-sharing-webrtc/
20:45
se6astian
Sorry have no time to read that now
20:45
se6astian
what are you suggesting in summary?
20:46
surami
i would like to suggest to build subdomain for this
20:49
surami
to combine webrtc screensharing, one to many audio broadcasting and irc window (https://www.apertus.org/irc-chat)
20:53
surami
https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/broadcast/
20:56
surami
but here are many other opotions too: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/
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troy_s
Is the broadcast still ongoing?
21:02
Bertl
nope, finished some time ago
21:02
troy_s
I see the archive Hangout.
21:02
troy_s
Did it go OK?
21:03
Bertl
not really
21:03
troy_s
Great.
21:03
troy_s
How come?
21:03
Bertl
lot of technical troubles and quite poor quality overall
21:04
troy_s
The Hangout archive seems fine.
21:04
Bertl
(see irc log)
21:04
troy_s
Interesting. You can flag chapters in the Hangout.
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troy_s
That's kind of handy.
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surami
and here are more demos: https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/RTCMultiConnection/
21:29
surami
ciao all
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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
23:01
Bertl
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23:01
__anton__
hi, a question on microzed (don't have one yet): does it come with Linux that can use HDMI for normal video output?
23:02
__anton__
e.g. can you plug a keyboard, an hdmi display and interact with it normally?
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daFred
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__anton__
err.. looks like i was wrong, no hdmi directly on microzed
23:17
__anton__
...but I should still be able to telnet in via the USB cable somehow, right?
23:24
se6astian
no linux framebuffer over hdmi out of the box correct
23:24
se6astian
serial console over usb is supported yes
23:24
se6astian
its a dedicated usb port
23:25
se6astian
time for bed
23:25
se6astian
good night
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se6astian
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23:25
Even
http://zedboard.org/sites/default/files/documentations/QSC-Z7MB-7Z010-G-v1d_0.pdf
23:35
__anton__
Thx guys, this helps
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