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2014/12/27

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00:00
comradekingu
But a family marathon, now thats odd ;)
00:02
Bertl
merry yule then! :)
00:02
comradekingu
good yuletide i think the english say
00:02
Bertl
ah, good to know!
00:03
comradekingu
Its an indiginous european tradition, so no need to put x-mass to make it less judeo-christian :)
00:04
comradekingu
I can tell the stories later, but busy watching a movie right now
00:04
Bertl
well, the only correct form is 'merry grav-mass' here, no?
00:05
Bertl
but we're already late for that anyway
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00:49
comradekingu
Why everyone so eager to steal rather than parttake in the jule festivities
00:50
comradekingu
To spare on technicalities, its the fortune of living through the winter, and cherising everything that makes it possible, the balance of things
00:51
comradekingu
a person cultus does not fit in, that is the opposite
00:53
comradekingu
cherish science for what its worth, be it the persuit of knowledge, as in odin, or whatnot, but do it on its own terms, dont imitate
01:04
Bertl
fair enough, but for efficiency, it makes sense that certain seasonal 'holidays' fall together at the same time
01:06
Bertl
so let's simply consider it coincidence and make it a multiple choice holiday :)
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01:37
comradekingu
its not, and you know better, for me its a sacred time, so im saddened. It can be for you too, for any reason you wish, but i think its in bad taste to take the tree in the name of efficiency. Also i dont think isac newton would agree with me, but he would in a sense agree to disagree on having his name used like that
01:42
Bertl
well, I didn't want to hurt you, anyway moving on ...
01:48
ItsMeLenny
i think i missed the start of the convo
01:59
comradekingu
you came at a strange time. Anyhow, its take your pick between yule, christmass, or isaac-newton day of birth/gravity, currently they follow each other like that, through imitation
02:00
comradekingu
Which would be ok for the third if the second one respected cultural exchange like the first one does
02:01
comradekingu
And i wanted to tell my story about the small people, the ones whos land it is we build our houses on, they must be remembered and cherised
02:03
comradekingu
Drink with reason, and wish for cold winters and good things
02:11
ItsMeLenny
Xmas is still christmas
02:12
ItsMeLenny
lets reference to wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
02:12
ItsMeLenny
i found that the references in wikipedia, i visite a lot of them on one page, are the most rubbish references ive ever read
02:12
comradekingu
I predate wikipedia, and my culture predates christianity
02:13
comradekingu
Saying Xmass is just a silly invention trying to make yule not about judeo-christianity, when it actually isnt to begin with
02:14
ItsMeLenny
i guess you only speak ancient germanic also?
02:14
comradekingu
Secondly it garners support from trying to make a winter-solstice festivity less religious, when, again, religion wasnt a bad thing till judeo-christianity came around
02:15
comradekingu
ItsMeLenny: i do, yes
02:15
ItsMeLenny
as speaking modern english would be sacrilege
02:15
ItsMeLenny
to be honest i thought the isacc newton comment was something to do with a naming scheme for axiom
02:16
comradekingu
i think naming technology products "newton" pretty much dooms the whole thing
02:18
comradekingu
I have no problems with other people doing other things, that is their thing, and then i can have my things. Saying Xmass is uneducated and not as a-religious as it makes itself out to be
02:19
ItsMeLenny
"""The "-mas" part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for Mass, while the "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word ΧÏιÏÏÏÏ which comes into English as "Christ""""
02:20
ItsMeLenny
at the same time i think this discussion is better suited for the irc room of #judeo-christianity
02:20
ItsMeLenny
more information can be found at www.judeo-christianity.com
02:33
comradekingu
hehe, there is even a page on "christmas controversy"
02:36
comradekingu
what we call a jule-tree and send off to others, they call a "christmas-tree" and then turn around and call it "holiday tree" to appease muslims, its unreal
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ItsMeLenny
well now you're talking about abrahamic religions
02:56
comradekingu
islam was always judeo-christian, to the point where you can call judeo-christianity original, which is where religion starts being the problem
03:01
comradekingu
It said something along the lines of christmass took a lot of influence from northern europe since that was the last of the countries to be christianized, and "scandinavians still call christmas yule"
03:02
comradekingu
Got that corrected, but it shows how relentlessly and mind-bogglingly inept and/or arrogant judeo-christian people get
03:03
comradekingu
I sometimes think of the future i wish for and i think will happen based on the progress so far, and it strikes me as very difficult to explain just how bad many things are right now
03:04
comradekingu
When they eventually change, it will just be one of those things that make me feel antiquated and old
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05:30
Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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05:31
comradekingu
good night
05:32
comradekingu
oioi, 6.30 am here, best go to sleep myself
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davidak
is someone at the 31C3?
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13:37
Bertl
morning folks!
13:39
Bertl
davidak: darthrake was on the way yesterday
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19:51
comradekingu
got some feedback on the EVF evaluation page https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php?title=Talk:EVF_Evaluation
19:51
comradekingu
must go now, will be back later
20:11
Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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Bertl
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Bertl
back now ...
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se6astian
time for bed
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