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2016/04/27

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Bertl
morning folks!
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se6astian
good morning
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Spirit532
Morning
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Spirit532
This channel is not very lively :(
07:29
Bertl
most folks are working silently on their part :)
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Rex0r
Morning
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Rex0r
https://twitter.com/cinema_open/status/725255085496799232)
10:47
Spirit532
man, I want one myself :|
10:48
Spirit532
that looks like a nice adapter
10:48
Rex0r
https://twitter.com/cinema_open/status/725255085496799232
10:49
Spirit532
I see that there's discussion for adapters in the tweets
10:49
Spirit532
I have a bit of soviet glass as well, should be really easy to make a stock Apertus mount if anyone wants it
10:53
Spirit532
all soviet glass uses either a twist-in bayonet, or a very large but standardized metric thread
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Spirit532
M42 is just a metric 42mm inner thread with a step/lead of 1mm(m42x1), M39 is the same, just m39x1.
11:03
Spirit532
M42's working distance is 45.5mm, M39 is 45.2mm, M37 is 45 & 46mm(varies).
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Rex0r
Good info.
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Andrew_
Hi Sebastian :-)
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se6astian
hello!
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Andrew_
OK, soweit so gut ;-)
13:44
Bertl
channel language is english
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Bertl
also, the channel is logged :)
13:44
Andrew_
OK, I can live with that :-)
13:44
Andrew_
So, I am successfully logged on.
13:45
Andrew_
But my SmallHD does not see a signal.
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Andrew_
I just kicked.
13:46
se6astian
do you have another monitor around
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se6astian
maybe a standard pc lcd?
13:46
se6astian
those so far proofed to work in most cases with the beta signal
13:46
Andrew_
A Ninja2?
13:46
se6astian
no the ninja does not support 1080p60
13:47
Andrew_
I should have switched to 30p
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Andrew_
Rebooting now.
13:48
se6astian
then it could work with the ninja2
13:49
Andrew_
Trying nowâ¦
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Andrew_
No input.
13:50
Andrew_
I am supposed to use the port next to the green light, right?
13:50
alexML
Andrew_: just FYI, my SmallHD DP6 works with the Beta, and it has to be plugged in the bottom HDMI port
13:50
Andrew_
Hi Alex :-)
13:51
Andrew_
I am using the SmallHD OLED.
13:51
Andrew_
AC7
13:51
Spirit532
Lots of people with Betas, I'm a little jealous. Does the monitor not recognise anything at all?
13:51
Andrew_
Bottom HDMI is the one opposite the ethernet port?
13:52
Bertl
Andrew_: when you hold the camera normally, then the bottom is the lower one :)
13:52
Andrew_
OK.
13:52
Bertl
i.e. the one at the bottom not the one at the top
13:52
se6astian
:)
13:52
Andrew_
Closest to the green light.
13:53
Bertl
the correct nomenclature (which is a little confusing) is 'south' plugin slot
13:53
Andrew_
The red light is supposed to be flashing?
13:53
Bertl
yep
13:53
Andrew_
South :-)
13:53
Bertl
two short pulses, pause, rinse and repeat
13:53
se6astian
I have to leave in 5 minutes for a meeting but I think you are in good hands here :)
13:54
Bertl
the green one is always on and when you are acquiring a picture the blue one will flash
13:54
Bertl
so, when you have live view active, you get a frantically flashing blue light as well
13:55
Spirit532
The real question is, are the blinkenlights controlled by the FPGA or the ARM cores? :P
13:55
Bertl
the red one is controlled by the kernel (heartbeat)
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Bertl
the blue one by the FPGA
13:56
Bertl
the green one is connected to power :)
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Andrew__
My PC monitor does not see a signal.
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Spirit532
Either of the ports?
13:58
Andrew__
Can I just pull out the card and use the other one?
13:58
Bertl
yep
13:58
Bertl
but note: most PC monitors cannot handle 1080p30 :)
13:58
Spirit532
wut
13:59
Andrew__
Did not work.
13:59
Bertl
they do well with 1080p60 though, but you want to configure it for monitor output instead of shogun output
13:59
Andrew__
I will try a different HDMI cable.
13:59
Spirit532
from my experience the monitors automatically switched from 30 to 60
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Spirit532
I confirmed it just yesterday with my regular camera, switched output from 30p to 60p
14:00
Bertl
I have at least 5 monitors which deny refresh rates below 50Hz
14:00
Spirit532
weird
14:00
Bertl
TVs on the other hand are fine with p30
14:00
Spirit532
TVs are fine with anything you throw at them
14:00
Andrew__
No picture yet.
14:00
Bertl
unfortunately not
14:01
Spirit532
I ran a tesla coil on the same table the TV sat, all it did is make angry noises at me.
14:01
Andrew__
Is there a command to test board to sensor communication?
14:01
Bertl
Andrew__: do you get the described light show?
14:01
Andrew__
Yes Bertl.
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Andrew__
Two burst, a pause,â¦
14:01
Bertl
so the blue one is flickering too?
14:01
Andrew__
No blue
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Bertl
are you logged into the Beta?
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Bertl
(serial or ssh)
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Andrew__
Yes.
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Andrew__
Serial
14:03
Bertl
try ./kick_manual.sh
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Andrew__
ZYNQ Temp 44.4177 °C cat: cmv_hdmi3.bit: No such file or directory
14:04
Bertl
so you already messed up the filesystem :)
14:04
Andrew__
Did I?
14:04
Bertl
what does the following give you:
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Bertl
ls -lga cmv_hdmi3.bit
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Andrew__
BTW, the system hung after: S_VW 1.9531 V [ c80] -0.0391 mV [fff] -2.60 mA
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Andrew__
Restartingâ¦
14:05
Bertl
yeah, that is kind of expected
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Bertl
the firmware is missing and the script didn't handle that properly
14:06
Andrew__
Oh man!
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Andrew__
What do I do?
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Bertl
btw, there is a reset button on the MicroZed (JFYI)
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Andrew__
USR?
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Bertl
that's the other one
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Andrew__
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Apr 27 15:47 cmv_hdmi3.bit -> cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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Bertl
so that doesn't look completely wrong
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Andrew__
Ah, the blue one. RST
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Bertl
both are blue, IIRC :)
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Spirit532
is .bit the bitstream for the FPGA?
14:08
Bertl
yup
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Bertl
Andrew__: so, let's check with:
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Bertl
AndrewIsback: let's check with:
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Bertl
ls -lga cmv_hdmi3*bit
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AndrewIsback
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Apr 27 15:47 cmv_hdmi3.bit -> cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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AndrewIsback
-rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2148631 Jan 1 1970 cmv_hdmi3V2.bit
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AndrewIsback
-rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2148463 Oct 24 2015 cmv_hdmi3x.bit
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AndrewIsback
-rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2198535 Oct 26 2015 cmv_hdmi3y.bit
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AndrewIsback
-rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2193379 Oct 26 2015 cmv_hdmi3z.bit
14:10
AndrewIsback
XYZ, it#s all there :-)
14:10
Spirit532
jan 1 1970
14:10
Bertl
hmm, so no cmv_hdmi3_30.bit or cmv_hdmi3_60.bit ?
14:10
Spirit532
sounds wrong
14:10
Bertl
Spirit532: the MicroZed has no RTC
14:10
AndrewIsback
Yeah, 1970â¦
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Spirit532
oh
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Spirit532
wait, was it generated on the microzed?
14:11
AndrewIsback
Are there files missing?
14:11
Bertl
yes
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Spirit532
er, created/modified
14:11
Bertl
AndrewIsback: but they can be added easily
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AndrewIsback
OK
14:12
Bertl
nevertheless, I suggest you get the networking up and running first
14:12
Bertl
transferring files via ssh is way easier than via serial port
14:12
AndrewIsback
Is there an FTP server running?
14:13
Bertl
on the Beta? no
14:13
AndrewIsback
OK
14:13
AndrewIsback
ssh, oh man it's been too longâ¦
14:13
Bertl
but sshd is running, so once it gets an IP, you can simply scp files over
14:13
Bertl
that even works on windows :)
14:14
AndrewIsback
How do I generate a public key?
14:14
Bertl
ssh-keygen
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AndrewIsback
Which file should I save it to?
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Bertl
where are you generating it?
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AndrewIsback
In the session.
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Bertl
on the Beta or on your PC?
14:15
AndrewIsback
Maybe "/root/.ssh/authorized_keys"
14:15
AndrewIsback
On the beta
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Bertl
you want to generate it on your PC
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AndrewIsback
I feel stupid!
14:15
AndrewIsback
OK.
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Bertl
you then add the public key (i.e. the *.pub file content) to the
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AndrewIsback
Generating it on my Mac.
14:16
Bertl
/root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the Beta
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AndrewIsback
Is that location good: "/Users/andrew/.ssh/id_rsa"
14:16
Bertl
yep
14:17
AndrewIsback
OK, I generated it.
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Bertl
open the /Users/andrew/.ssh/id_rsa.pub with an editor
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AndrewIsback
Now how do I move it?
14:17
AndrewIsback
OK
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Bertl
run cat >>/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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Bertl
on the serial console
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Bertl
then copy/paste the key data
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Bertl
after that, press CTRL-D
14:18
AndrewIsback
I got a line that starts with "ssh-rsa"
14:19
Bertl
that's good
14:20
AndrewIsback
OK, did that
14:20
Bertl
now try (on the Mac): ssh root@<beta-ip>
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Bertl
where <beta-ip> is the IP address the Beta got
14:22
AndrewIsback
Access denied.
14:22
Bertl
then you made a mistake with copy/pasting the key
14:23
Bertl
check with tail -1 /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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jucar
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Bertl
(on the Beta) to see the last key
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Bertl
and cross check it with the one you generated
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Bertl
make sure nothing was modified
14:24
AndrewIsback
Bugger, it is different at the very end.
14:25
AndrewIsback
The ending is fine againâ¦
14:25
Bertl
well, your copy/paste seems to be weird :)
14:25
AndrewIsback
"We have previously run into problems with screen and copy-pasting entire keys, and eventually ended up splitting keys into two parts and copy-paste them separately."
14:25
Bertl
anyway, you can edit it manually as well
14:25
AndrewIsback
Oh no, vi?
14:25
Bertl
yep, vi :)
14:26
AndrewIsback
Can you talk me through that as well please?
14:26
Bertl
yep, run:
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Bertl
vi /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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Bertl
type SHIFT-G
14:26
AndrewIsback
Ahâ¦
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Bertl
do you want to try to copy it in small pieces?
14:27
AndrewIsback
I'll try that.
14:27
AndrewIsback
Or just scroll to the endâ¦
14:27
Bertl
if, so, press SHIFT-R
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Bertl
which will put you into replace mode
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Bertl
you can paste over the existing line in this mode
14:28
AndrewIsback
OK
14:29
Bertl
once you are done, press ESC
14:29
AndrewIsback
OK
14:29
Bertl
then :x
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Bertl
: will put you in command mode
14:29
Bertl
(i.e. move the cursor to the bottom left)
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Bertl
and x is the 'save' command
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Bertl
just press enter
14:30
Bertl
after that, check with the tail command
14:30
AndrewIsback
That does not seem to work
14:30
Bertl
what?
14:31
AndrewIsback
Pressing ESC
14:31
Bertl
ESC will end the paste mode
14:31
AndrewIsback
I jump to the end of the line
14:31
AndrewIsback
When I type x the last character is deleted
14:32
Bertl
don't do that :)
14:32
Bertl
you want to press ':'
14:32
AndrewIsback
I figured ;-)
14:32
AndrewIsback
Ah!
14:32
Bertl
what program do you use to talk to the serial console btw?
14:32
AndrewIsback
Terminal
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AndrewIsback
In OSX
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AndrewIsback
So, saved itâ¦
14:33
Bertl
the Terminal.app can now talk to serial ports directly?
14:33
AndrewIsback
It appears so.
14:33
AndrewIsback
OK, I am in :-)
14:33
Bertl
nice
14:33
AndrewIsback
Lists the files in nice colours now :-)
14:33
Bertl
does ping 8.8.8.8 work?
14:34
Spirit532
why should it?
14:34
AndrewIsback
Yes
14:34
Spirit532
isn't he connecting it directly to the PC?
14:34
Spirit532
oh... wifi
14:34
Bertl
okay, CTRL-C to stop it
14:34
AndrewIsback
10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9013ms
14:34
Bertl
wget http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/ALEX/cmv_hdmi3.bit
14:34
AndrewIsback
The Beta is plugged into my router.
14:34
Spirit532
okay
14:35
AndrewIsback
Working
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AndrewIsback
Saved
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Bertl
ls -lga cmv_hdmi3.bit
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AndrewIsback
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Apr 27 15:47 cmv_hdmi3.bit -> cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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AndrewIsback
It#s there now
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AndrewIsback
Is it?
14:36
Bertl
maybe, let's do:
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Bertl
ls -lga cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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se6astian
back
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AndrewIsback
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2176123 Mar 22 12:59 cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
14:36
se6astian
I see you are still fiddling :)
14:36
AndrewIsback
Almost there⦠(?)
14:37
Bertl
AndrewIsback: good, only problem is, that's the _60 version :)
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Bertl
so let's fix that with a few commands
14:37
AndrewIsback
Sounds faster :-)
14:37
Bertl
mv cmv_hdmi3_30.bit cmv_hdmi3_60.bit
14:37
AndrewIsback
Moved it
14:37
Bertl
rm -f cmv_hdmi3.bit
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Bertl
ln -s cmv_hdmi3_60.bit cmv_hdmi3.bit
14:37
AndrewIsback
Gone
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AndrewIsback
Linked
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Bertl
now check kick.sh
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Bertl
e.g. with cat kick.sh
14:38
Bertl
does it have an exit 0 at the beginning?
14:38
AndrewIsback
Yes
14:38
Bertl
is it commented out with a # ?
14:38
AndrewIsback
No
14:39
Bertl
okay, leave it this way for now
14:39
AndrewIsback
OK
14:39
Bertl
it means that camera will not auto start
14:39
AndrewIsback
OK
14:39
Bertl
now let's check the HDMI config
14:39
AndrewIsback
OK
14:39
Bertl
grep gen_init setup.sh
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AndrewIsback
./gen_init.sh 1080p60
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AndrewIsback
# ./gen_init.sh SHOGUN
14:40
Bertl
okay, that means it is configure for PC monitor
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Bertl
*configured
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Bertl
now let's do:
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Bertl
sync
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Bertl
so that we do not lose any data :)
14:40
AndrewIsback
I used to type that three times :-)
14:40
Bertl
and run ./kick_manual.sh again
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AndrewIsback
Yes!
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AndrewIsback
Flashing blue!
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AndrewIsback
And transmitting!
14:41
Bertl
\o/
14:41
AndrewIsback
Now wasn't that easy? ;-)
14:41
Bertl
it was, wasn't it?
14:42
AndrewIsback
;-)
14:42
AndrewIsback
How do I stop the transmitting?
14:42
AndrewIsback
my family is clamoring for me to cook some food for them.
14:43
AndrewIsback
Or do I just unplug the power?
14:43
Bertl
I'm not asking how one does affect the other
14:43
Bertl
you can run halt_manual.sh
14:43
Bertl
and then
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Bertl
shutdown -h now
14:43
Bertl
once ther red heartbeat stops, it is safe to pull the plug
14:44
Bertl
*the
14:44
AndrewIsback
Perfect!
14:44
Spirit532
What could not halting it cause?
14:44
AndrewIsback
Thanks so much for the help in getting the thing started!
14:44
Bertl
filesystem is log based, so normally it doesn't do anything
14:44
Spirit532
Oh, and - is this a "developer" developer unit, or a preorder-based unit?
14:45
Bertl
but if you are very unlucky, you could lose your latest data
14:45
AndrewIsback
For using the Ninja2, do I use the Shogun settings?
14:45
Bertl
probably, but you also need to download the 30FPS firmware
14:45
AndrewIsback
OK, can we do that?
14:46
Bertl
do some cooking, I'll see that we find a copy for you
14:46
AndrewIsback
OK :-)
14:46
AndrewIsback
I'll be back soon.
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se6astian
also have to leave
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se6astian
bbl
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Andrew_has_fed_h
Hi there, I am back.
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Bertl
wb :)
16:27
Andrew_has_fed_h
Hey :-)
16:28
Andrew_has_fed_h
Managed to replicate the key thingy on the laptop that I'll be taking to demonstrate the Beta in Berlin :-)
16:28
Bertl
excellent!
16:28
Bertl
http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
16:28
Andrew_has_fed_h
So, is there a 30fps firmware that I can access?
16:28
Andrew_has_fed_h
An :-)
16:28
Andrew_has_fed_h
Ahâ¦
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Spirit532
Bertl, what's the difference between the 30 and 60 firmware?
16:29
Spirit532
Something major structurally?
16:29
Bertl
one does 1080p60, the other 1080p30
16:29
Spirit532
yeah, I get that, I'm not a rock
16:29
Bertl
it is only PLL settings, so they could be changed at runtime
16:29
Bertl
but we haven't bothered yet to write the script
16:30
Spirit532
why not implement the DMA communication between the two?
16:30
Spirit532
I see
16:30
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK, installed it.
16:31
Andrew_has_fed_h
Now the rm & ln?
16:31
Andrew_has_fed_h
Don't want to ruin my fine file system :-)
16:31
Bertl
yep, rm -f cmv_hdmi3.bit
16:31
Spirit532
I accidently rm -rf *'d a production server once
16:31
Bertl
then ln -s cmv_hdmi3_30.bit cmv_hdmi3.bit
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Spirit532
now I re-read the input command 6 times before I press enter
16:32
Bertl
then reboot the Beta
16:32
Spirit532
how is the bitstream loaded into the FPGA?
16:32
Andrew_has_fed_h
sync :-)
16:32
Andrew_has_fed_h
Press the little blue button?
16:32
Andrew_has_fed_h
RST
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Andrew_has_fed_h
ReSeT?
16:33
Spirit532
I want to take a look at that code if it's public
16:33
kaiserlich
woaahh, Spirit532, that sounds awful (the production server thing)
16:33
Andrew_has_fed_h
Reboot?
16:33
Spirit532
I had a day-earlier backup :P
16:33
Andrew_has_fed_h
Or run "reboot"?
16:34
Bertl
shutdown -r now
16:34
kaiserlich
reminds me of the stackoverflow post that's been making the rounds (from last week? though it was apparently fake)
16:35
kaiserlich
Andrew: all your questions are really great, i've made a note to answer them in the documentation
16:36
Andrew_has_fed_h
Long live the dumb user ;-)
16:36
Bertl
the important part for documentation though is to wrap it in such way, that it isn't a cooking recipe
16:36
Spirit532
I could have a go at that as well
16:36
Spirit532
though the Beta is very far from a manual right now
16:36
Bertl
because the Beta is constantly changing and most cooking recipes we have on the Wiki are already outdated
16:37
Bertl
so I see two options there: 1) add a version number to each recipe
16:37
Bertl
2) explain why one would be doing this or that and what it actually does
16:37
Andrew_has_fed_h
The Ninja 2 does not recognize the HDMI stream.
16:37
Bertl
in the latter case, it is relatively simple to figure it out, even if the Beta changed
16:37
Andrew_has_fed_h
Can I check the FPS?
16:38
Bertl
Andrew_has_fed_h: did you switch from the 'Montor' mode to the shogun mode?
16:38
kaiserlich
nah, not dumb user(s), but the camera should also be usable by non-nerds/non-techies (:
16:38
Andrew_has_fed_h
Ah, I just swapped the FW.
16:38
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK, that was in the shell script, right?
16:39
Bertl
in the setup.sh, you need to comment out the ./gen_init.sh 1080p60
16:39
Bertl
and remove the # from the SHOGUN line
16:39
Bertl
i.e. change it to:
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Bertl
# ./gen_init.sh 1080p60
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Bertl
./gen_init.sh SHOGUN
16:39
Andrew_has_fed_h
Can I get some vi help please?
16:39
Bertl
well, you already learned the commands ':' and 'x' :)
16:39
Andrew_has_fed_h
A tiny FTP server would make this kind of thing much easier.
16:40
Spirit532
nano is simpler, isn't it?
16:40
kaiserlich
i find vi(m) simpler (;
16:40
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK, here we goâ¦
16:40
Bertl
kaiserlich: it is actually vim
16:40
Bertl
Andrew_has_fed_h: you can install one, it is Arch linux
16:40
Bertl
although I'd suggest to make a backup of your SD card first ;-)
16:41
Andrew_has_fed_h
I won't touch that for now.
16:41
kaiserlich
for editing a file with vim, you'll have to first press i for INSERT
16:41
kaiserlich
that's the edit mode basically
16:41
kaiserlich
and to exit it again, press ESC
16:42
Andrew_has_fed_h
How do I write in a vi line?
16:42
Bertl
'i' is insert, 'r' is replace
16:42
Bertl
both will put you into edit mode
16:42
Bertl
http://vim.rtorr.com/
16:42
kaiserlich
once you are in edit mode, you can just press enter to start a new line
16:43
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK, fixed the script
16:43
Bertl
this one is also nice:
16:43
Andrew_has_fed_h
Mental note: study vi commands :-)
16:43
Bertl
http://g3-fabwordpress.rhcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-01-05_180820.png
16:43
Andrew_has_fed_h
Nice!
16:44
Spirit532
nano is simpler for a newbie IMO
16:44
Bertl
so, test with another reboot (shutdown -r now)
16:44
Bertl
the advantage of vi is that it is basically installed on any system
16:44
kaiserlich
the most basic commands in vim really are i for the insert mode, then ESC for exiting the insert mode (so a lot of times, you will switch between the two) and then the colon followed by a letter, the most important of which are :w for writing, :q for quitting... :x is the two combined (i.e. saving and quitting)
16:45
Spirit532
sounds a little complex
16:45
kaiserlich
whenever i accidentally nano things, i never know how to quit it again
16:45
kaiserlich
(like when it's set as the default editor)
16:45
Spirit532
ctrl+c N?
16:45
Bertl
yeah, that sounds intuitive :)
16:45
Spirit532
or ctrl+x N/Y
16:46
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK, the Ninja 2 still sees no signal.
16:46
Bertl
anyway, I'm not suggesting that everybody uses vi
16:46
kaiserlich
re: vim again â you have to be in non-insert mode to be able to type the colon+letter combination
16:46
Bertl
Andrew_has_fed_h: run ./cmv_perf3
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Andrew_has_fed_h
.9.95 FPS
16:48
Andrew_has_fed_h
29.95 FPS
16:48
Andrew_has_fed_h
30.01 FPS
16:48
Andrew_has_fed_h
Looks right
16:48
Bertl
so you are generating 30FPS
16:48
Andrew_has_fed_h
Yes
16:48
Bertl
let's try something else
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Bertl
./rf_sel.py A
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Bertl
./pic_jtag_pcie.py 0x92 0x92
16:49
Andrew_has_fed_h
Yes!
16:49
Andrew_has_fed_h
Locked on!
16:50
Bertl
does the picture look okay?
16:50
Bertl
any red stripes or strange offsets?
16:50
Andrew_has_fed_h
Have to attach a lensâ¦
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Bertl
lol
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Andrew_has_fed_h
It's quite dark,
16:53
kaiserlich
was that nick supposed to be andrew has fed his family? :D
16:53
Andrew_has_fed_h
Yes :-)
16:53
kaiserlich
(just noticed)
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Bertl
Andrew_has_fed_h: first adjust the aperture, if you are using one of the comlite adapters, make sure that they show 1F
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Bertl
then, if it is still too dark, you can increase the exposure time
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Bertl
e.g. with ./cmv_snap3 -e 50ms -z
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Andrew_has_fed_h
Bertl, shall I send you a screen shot?
17:01
Bertl
yes, please
17:02
Andrew_has_fed_h
Can I have your eMail-address?
17:02
Bertl
can you upload it somewhere?
17:02
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK
17:02
Bertl
or is that a problem?
17:03
Andrew_has_fed_h
https://www.yousendit.com/download/ZWJYa3NWSWg1R085TE5Vag
17:04
Andrew_has_fed_h
Filming the screen I could create some moiré.
17:04
Andrew_has_fed_h
Also, the Ninja 2 display was funny.
17:05
Andrew_has_fed_h
The two audio meters are like stuck in front of the logo.
17:05
Bertl
okay, so that is a snapshot or recorded with the ninja?
17:06
Andrew_has_fed_h
And the border is only visible only top and right.
17:07
Andrew_has_fed_h
That is what I recorded on the Ninja.
17:07
Bertl
okay, but that seems to have everything as it should be, no?
17:07
Bertl
I mean, white border on all sides, logo,
17:08
Andrew_has_fed_h
Yes.
17:08
Andrew_has_fed_h
I just photograpged the screenâ¦
17:08
Bertl
so it is the display on the ninja which cannot handle the full HD
17:09
Bertl
btw, you can adjust the overlay if you like to
17:09
Andrew_has_fed_h
Looks like it.
17:09
Bertl
i.e. add two pixel borders, etc
17:11
Bertl
but the fact that it is recording the full overlay means that it understands the signal just fine
17:11
Bertl
you can disable the overlay with: ./mimg -a -o -P 0
17:12
Andrew_has_fed_h
Here is the snapshot: ./pic_jtag_pcie.py 0x92 0x92
17:12
Andrew_has_fed_h
No ;-)
17:13
Andrew_has_fed_h
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23tS9bIjRt6R2o1T3JTRkNjRlk&usp=sharing
17:13
Bertl
yeah, I guess it just down-samples the full HD and this in turn removes the 1 pixel borders
17:14
Bertl
you might also want to move the logo to the right, if you want to have it
17:14
Andrew_has_fed_h
What is the overlay picture?
17:16
Bertl
./mimg -a -o /opt/IMG/overlay_04.rgb
17:16
Andrew_has_fed_h
OK, I have to take off. Will have to leave the tweaking for tomorrow.
17:16
Andrew_has_fed_h
Thanks Bertl!
17:16
Bertl
in kick_manual.sh loads the overlay
17:17
Andrew_has_fed_h
Exploring all the aspects will be FUN :-)
17:17
Andrew_has_fed_h
OTOH I also have to get some filming doneâ¦
17:18
Andrew_has_fed_h
How does that experimental RAW recording work? Is there a page for that yet?
17:18
Andrew_has_fed_h
Oops, time to go. Catch you later!
17:18
Bertl
doesn't work with p30
17:18
Bertl
unless you want to record with 15 frames per second :)
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Spirit532
My plans to peacefully go to bed were ended abruptly by a 15 gigabit per second DDoS attack that brought my hoster's datacenter to it's knees. Directed towards me.
17:26
Spirit532
Bertl, is the unit Andrew has a developer unit sent on schedule, or something special? He mentioned showing it in Berlin.
17:27
Bertl
that is one of the Early Betas we are sending out
17:27
Spirit532
I see
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Alex_Chooks
Hi guys, I was thinking about the external recorder, and I'm using a lot the raspberry pi and I found this on crowdfunding campaign : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2073955313/pidrive-low-power-msata-ssd-for-the-raspberry-pi/description
19:52
Alex_Chooks
I'm not sure if it's usable for this thing but I will be very happy to see a raspberry pi in a axiom camera :)
19:58
se6astian
basically we have a raspberry pi inside the camera already as the Zynq has a dual arm cpu on board and we run linux on them :)
19:58
Alex_Chooks
yes right ! :)
19:59
se6astian
this addon board explains they are limited to usb bus speed
19:59
Bertl
the SATA board will give you speeds up to 50MB/s
19:59
se6astian
so that will not even get close to the kind of bandwidth we need to write video
19:59
Bertl
each SD card in the AXIOM Beta (there are two of them) can do 25MB/s
20:00
Bertl
so you are probably better off storing the data to high quality SD cards instead ...
20:02
Bertl
but if somebody actually builds an HDMI in addon for the RPi which uses the proprietary camera interface, then it would be possible to do 3D GPU magic on the AXIOM output on the RPi
20:03
Alex_Chooks
Hummm interesting !
20:03
Bertl
note that this was already attempted but failed.
20:03
Alex_Chooks
with a raspberry pi 3 ?
20:04
Bertl
IIRC, with an older model
20:05
Alex_Chooks
because the raspberry pi allow 4K on hdmi port. technically it's off of my skills ! but I'm trying to found some solutions ! :)
20:05
Alex_Chooks
*raspberry pi 3
20:39
Rex0r
< Feeling like a caveman.
20:39
se6astian
I am off to bed cave!
20:39
se6astian
not to mistake for the batcave
20:41
Bertl
Rex0r: how's that?
20:42
Rex0r
Because I've read everything in here throughout the day.
20:42
Rex0r
You're clever lads.
20:48
Rex0r
se6astian at the hair cave
20:51
Bertl
admit it, you are just jealous :)
20:55
se6astian
changed nick to: se6astian|away
20:59
Rex0r
Well, yeah, but it's the financial outlay that makes me realise how lucky I am. Bills at the hair cave must be horrendous.
20:59
Bertl
indeed
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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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Rex0r
nn
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danieel
Alex_Chooks: which RPi can do 4k on hdmi ? the pixel clock is limited to 165MHz.. so are you talking about 4k at 15Hz? :)
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