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07:57 | se6astian | good morning
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08:28 | Spirit532 | Morning
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08:28 | Spirit532 | This channel is not very lively :(
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08:29 | Bertl | most folks are working silently on their part :)
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11:43 | Rex0r | Morning
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11:46 | Rex0r | https://twitter.com/cinema_open/status/725255085496799232)
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11:47 | Spirit532 | man, I want one myself :|
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11:48 | Spirit532 | that looks like a nice adapter
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11:48 | Rex0r | https://twitter.com/cinema_open/status/725255085496799232
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11:49 | Spirit532 | I see that there's discussion for adapters in the tweets
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11:49 | Spirit532 | I have a bit of soviet glass as well, should be really easy to make a stock Apertus mount if anyone wants it
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11:53 | Spirit532 | all soviet glass uses either a twist-in bayonet, or a very large but standardized metric thread
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12:01 | Spirit532 | M42 is just a metric 42mm inner thread with a step/lead of 1mm(m42x1), M39 is the same, just m39x1.
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12:03 | Spirit532 | M42's working distance is 45.5mm, M39 is 45.2mm, M37 is 45 & 46mm(varies).
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12:07 | Rex0r | Good info.
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14:42 | Andrew_ | Hi Sebastian :-)
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14:43 | se6astian | hello!
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14:44 | Andrew_ | OK, soweit so gut ;-)
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14:44 | Bertl | channel language is english
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14:44 | Bertl | also, the channel is logged :)
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14:44 | Andrew_ | OK, I can live with that :-)
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14:44 | Andrew_ | So, I am successfully logged on.
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14:45 | Andrew_ | But my SmallHD does not see a signal.
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14:45 | Andrew_ | I just kicked.
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14:46 | se6astian | do you have another monitor around
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14:46 | se6astian | maybe a standard pc lcd?
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14:46 | se6astian | those so far proofed to work in most cases with the beta signal
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14:46 | Andrew_ | A Ninja2?
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14:46 | se6astian | no the ninja does not support 1080p60
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14:47 | Andrew_ | I should have switched to 30p
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14:47 | Andrew_ | Rebooting now.
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14:48 | se6astian | then it could work with the ninja2
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14:49 | Andrew_ | Trying now…
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14:50 | Andrew_ | No input.
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14:50 | Andrew_ | I am supposed to use the port next to the green light, right?
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14:50 | alexML | Andrew_: just FYI, my SmallHD DP6 works with the Beta, and it has to be plugged in the bottom HDMI port
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14:50 | Andrew_ | Hi Alex :-)
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14:51 | Andrew_ | I am using the SmallHD OLED.
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14:51 | Andrew_ | AC7
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14:51 | Spirit532 | Lots of people with Betas, I'm a little jealous. Does the monitor not recognise anything at all?
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14:51 | Andrew_ | Bottom HDMI is the one opposite the ethernet port?
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14:52 | Bertl | Andrew_: when you hold the camera normally, then the bottom is the lower one :)
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14:52 | Andrew_ | OK.
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14:52 | Bertl | i.e. the one at the bottom not the one at the top
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14:52 | se6astian | :)
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14:52 | Andrew_ | Closest to the green light.
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14:53 | Bertl | the correct nomenclature (which is a little confusing) is 'south' plugin slot
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14:53 | Andrew_ | The red light is supposed to be flashing?
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14:53 | Bertl | yep
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14:53 | Andrew_ | South :-)
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14:53 | Bertl | two short pulses, pause, rinse and repeat
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14:53 | se6astian | I have to leave in 5 minutes for a meeting but I think you are in good hands here :)
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14:54 | Bertl | the green one is always on and when you are acquiring a picture the blue one will flash
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14:54 | Bertl | so, when you have live view active, you get a frantically flashing blue light as well
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14:55 | Spirit532 | The real question is, are the blinkenlights controlled by the FPGA or the ARM cores? :P
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14:55 | Bertl | the red one is controlled by the kernel (heartbeat)
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14:55 | Bertl | the blue one by the FPGA
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14:56 | Bertl | the green one is connected to power :)
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14:57 | Andrew__ | My PC monitor does not see a signal.
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14:57 | Spirit532 | Either of the ports?
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14:58 | Andrew__ | Can I just pull out the card and use the other one?
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14:58 | Bertl | yep
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14:58 | Bertl | but note: most PC monitors cannot handle 1080p30 :)
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14:58 | Spirit532 | wut
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14:59 | Andrew__ | Did not work.
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14:59 | Bertl | they do well with 1080p60 though, but you want to configure it for monitor output instead of shogun output
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14:59 | Andrew__ | I will try a different HDMI cable.
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14:59 | Spirit532 | from my experience the monitors automatically switched from 30 to 60
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15:00 | Spirit532 | I confirmed it just yesterday with my regular camera, switched output from 30p to 60p
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15:00 | Bertl | I have at least 5 monitors which deny refresh rates below 50Hz
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15:00 | Spirit532 | weird
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15:00 | Bertl | TVs on the other hand are fine with p30
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15:00 | Spirit532 | TVs are fine with anything you throw at them
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15:00 | Andrew__ | No picture yet.
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15:00 | Bertl | unfortunately not
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15:01 | Spirit532 | I ran a tesla coil on the same table the TV sat, all it did is make angry noises at me.
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15:01 | Andrew__ | Is there a command to test board to sensor communication?
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15:01 | Bertl | Andrew__: do you get the described light show?
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15:01 | Andrew__ | Yes Bertl.
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15:01 | Andrew__ | Two burst, a pause,…
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15:01 | Bertl | so the blue one is flickering too?
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15:01 | Andrew__ | No blue
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15:02 | Bertl | are you logged into the Beta?
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15:02 | Bertl | (serial or ssh)
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15:03 | Andrew__ | Yes.
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15:03 | Andrew__ | Serial
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15:03 | Bertl | try ./kick_manual.sh
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15:04 | Andrew__ | ZYNQ Temp 44.4177 °C cat: cmv_hdmi3.bit: No such file or directory
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15:04 | Bertl | so you already messed up the filesystem :)
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15:04 | Andrew__ | Did I?
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15:04 | Bertl | what does the following give you:
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15:05 | Bertl | ls -lga cmv_hdmi3.bit
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15:05 | Andrew__ | BTW, the system hung after: S_VW 1.9531 V [ c80] -0.0391 mV [fff] -2.60 mA
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15:05 | Andrew__ | Restarting…
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15:05 | Bertl | yeah, that is kind of expected
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15:06 | Bertl | the firmware is missing and the script didn't handle that properly
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15:06 | Andrew__ | Oh man!
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15:06 | Andrew__ | What do I do?
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15:06 | Bertl | btw, there is a reset button on the MicroZed (JFYI)
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15:07 | Andrew__ | USR?
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15:07 | Bertl | that's the other one
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15:07 | Andrew__ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Apr 27 15:47 cmv_hdmi3.bit -> cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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15:07 | Bertl | so that doesn't look completely wrong
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15:07 | Andrew__ | Ah, the blue one. RST
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15:08 | Bertl | both are blue, IIRC :)
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15:08 | Spirit532 | is .bit the bitstream for the FPGA?
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15:08 | Bertl | yup
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15:08 | Bertl | Andrew__: so, let's check with:
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15:09 | Bertl | AndrewIsback: let's check with:
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15:09 | Bertl | ls -lga cmv_hdmi3*bit
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15:09 | AndrewIsback | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Apr 27 15:47 cmv_hdmi3.bit -> cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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15:09 | AndrewIsback | -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2148631 Jan 1 1970 cmv_hdmi3V2.bit
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15:09 | AndrewIsback | -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2148463 Oct 24 2015 cmv_hdmi3x.bit
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15:10 | AndrewIsback | -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2198535 Oct 26 2015 cmv_hdmi3y.bit
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15:10 | AndrewIsback | -rw-rw-r-- 1 500 2193379 Oct 26 2015 cmv_hdmi3z.bit
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15:10 | AndrewIsback | XYZ, it#s all there :-)
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15:10 | Spirit532 | jan 1 1970
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15:10 | Bertl | hmm, so no cmv_hdmi3_30.bit or cmv_hdmi3_60.bit ?
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15:10 | Spirit532 | sounds wrong
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15:10 | Bertl | Spirit532: the MicroZed has no RTC
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15:10 | AndrewIsback | Yeah, 1970…
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15:11 | Spirit532 | oh
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15:11 | Spirit532 | wait, was it generated on the microzed?
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15:11 | AndrewIsback | Are there files missing?
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15:11 | Bertl | yes
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15:11 | Spirit532 | er, created/modified
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15:11 | Bertl | AndrewIsback: but they can be added easily
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15:12 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:12 | Bertl | nevertheless, I suggest you get the networking up and running first
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15:12 | Bertl | transferring files via ssh is way easier than via serial port
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15:12 | AndrewIsback | Is there an FTP server running?
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15:13 | Bertl | on the Beta? no
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15:13 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:13 | AndrewIsback | ssh, oh man it's been too long…
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15:13 | Bertl | but sshd is running, so once it gets an IP, you can simply scp files over
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15:13 | Bertl | that even works on windows :)
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15:14 | AndrewIsback | How do I generate a public key?
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15:14 | Bertl | ssh-keygen
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15:15 | AndrewIsback | Which file should I save it to?
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15:15 | Bertl | where are you generating it?
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15:15 | AndrewIsback | In the session.
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15:15 | Bertl | on the Beta or on your PC?
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15:15 | AndrewIsback | Maybe "/root/.ssh/authorized_keys"
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15:15 | AndrewIsback | On the beta
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15:15 | Bertl | you want to generate it on your PC
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15:15 | AndrewIsback | I feel stupid!
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15:15 | AndrewIsback | OK.
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15:16 | Bertl | you then add the public key (i.e. the *.pub file content) to the
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15:16 | AndrewIsback | Generating it on my Mac.
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15:16 | Bertl | /root/.ssh/authorized_keys on the Beta
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15:16 | AndrewIsback | Is that location good: "/Users/andrew/.ssh/id_rsa"
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15:16 | Bertl | yep
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15:17 | AndrewIsback | OK, I generated it.
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15:17 | Bertl | open the /Users/andrew/.ssh/id_rsa.pub with an editor
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15:17 | AndrewIsback | Now how do I move it?
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15:17 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:18 | Bertl | run cat >>/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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15:18 | Bertl | on the serial console
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15:18 | Bertl | then copy/paste the key data
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15:18 | Bertl | after that, press CTRL-D
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15:18 | AndrewIsback | I got a line that starts with "ssh-rsa"
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15:19 | Bertl | that's good
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15:20 | AndrewIsback | OK, did that
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15:20 | Bertl | now try (on the Mac): ssh root@<beta-ip>
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15:21 | Bertl | where <beta-ip> is the IP address the Beta got
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15:22 | AndrewIsback | Access denied.
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15:22 | Bertl | then you made a mistake with copy/pasting the key
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15:23 | Bertl | check with tail -1 /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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15:23 | Bertl | (on the Beta) to see the last key
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15:23 | Bertl | and cross check it with the one you generated
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15:23 | Bertl | make sure nothing was modified
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15:24 | AndrewIsback | Bugger, it is different at the very end.
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15:25 | AndrewIsback | The ending is fine again…
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15:25 | Bertl | well, your copy/paste seems to be weird :)
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15:25 | AndrewIsback | "We have previously run into problems with screen and copy-pasting entire keys, and eventually ended up splitting keys into two parts and copy-paste them separately."
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15:25 | Bertl | anyway, you can edit it manually as well
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15:25 | AndrewIsback | Oh no, vi?
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15:25 | Bertl | yep, vi :)
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15:26 | AndrewIsback | Can you talk me through that as well please?
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15:26 | Bertl | yep, run:
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15:26 | Bertl | vi /root/.ssh/authorized_keys
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15:26 | Bertl | type SHIFT-G
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15:26 | AndrewIsback | Ah…
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15:27 | Bertl | do you want to try to copy it in small pieces?
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15:27 | AndrewIsback | I'll try that.
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15:27 | AndrewIsback | Or just scroll to the end…
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15:27 | Bertl | if, so, press SHIFT-R
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15:27 | Bertl | which will put you into replace mode
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15:27 | Bertl | you can paste over the existing line in this mode
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15:28 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:29 | Bertl | once you are done, press ESC
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15:29 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:29 | Bertl | then :x
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15:29 | Bertl | : will put you in command mode
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15:29 | Bertl | (i.e. move the cursor to the bottom left)
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15:30 | Bertl | and x is the 'save' command
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15:30 | Bertl | just press enter
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15:30 | Bertl | after that, check with the tail command
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15:30 | AndrewIsback | That does not seem to work
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15:30 | Bertl | what?
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15:31 | AndrewIsback | Pressing ESC
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15:31 | Bertl | ESC will end the paste mode
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15:31 | AndrewIsback | I jump to the end of the line
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15:31 | AndrewIsback | When I type x the last character is deleted
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15:32 | Bertl | don't do that :)
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15:32 | Bertl | you want to press ':'
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15:32 | AndrewIsback | I figured ;-)
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15:32 | AndrewIsback | Ah!
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15:32 | Bertl | what program do you use to talk to the serial console btw?
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15:32 | AndrewIsback | Terminal
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15:32 | AndrewIsback | In OSX
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15:33 | AndrewIsback | So, saved it…
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15:33 | Bertl | the Terminal.app can now talk to serial ports directly?
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15:33 | AndrewIsback | It appears so.
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15:33 | AndrewIsback | OK, I am in :-)
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15:33 | Bertl | nice
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15:33 | AndrewIsback | Lists the files in nice colours now :-)
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15:33 | Bertl | does ping 8.8.8.8 work?
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15:34 | Spirit532 | why should it?
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15:34 | AndrewIsback | Yes
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15:34 | Spirit532 | isn't he connecting it directly to the PC?
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15:34 | Spirit532 | oh... wifi
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15:34 | Bertl | okay, CTRL-C to stop it
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15:34 | AndrewIsback | 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9013ms
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15:34 | Bertl | wget http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/ALEX/cmv_hdmi3.bit
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15:34 | AndrewIsback | The Beta is plugged into my router.
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15:34 | Spirit532 | okay
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15:35 | AndrewIsback | Working
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15:35 | AndrewIsback | Saved
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15:35 | Bertl | ls -lga cmv_hdmi3.bit
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15:36 | AndrewIsback | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 16 Apr 27 15:47 cmv_hdmi3.bit -> cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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15:36 | AndrewIsback | It#s there now
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15:36 | AndrewIsback | Is it?
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15:36 | Bertl | maybe, let's do:
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15:36 | Bertl | ls -lga cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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15:36 | se6astian | back
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15:36 | AndrewIsback | -rw-r--r-- 1 root 2176123 Mar 22 12:59 cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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15:36 | se6astian | I see you are still fiddling :)
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15:36 | AndrewIsback | Almost there… (?)
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15:37 | Bertl | AndrewIsback: good, only problem is, that's the _60 version :)
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15:37 | Bertl | so let's fix that with a few commands
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15:37 | AndrewIsback | Sounds faster :-)
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15:37 | Bertl | mv cmv_hdmi3_30.bit cmv_hdmi3_60.bit
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15:37 | AndrewIsback | Moved it
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15:37 | Bertl | rm -f cmv_hdmi3.bit
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15:37 | Bertl | ln -s cmv_hdmi3_60.bit cmv_hdmi3.bit
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15:37 | AndrewIsback | Gone
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15:37 | AndrewIsback | Linked
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15:38 | Bertl | now check kick.sh
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15:38 | Bertl | e.g. with cat kick.sh
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15:38 | Bertl | does it have an exit 0 at the beginning?
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15:38 | AndrewIsback | Yes
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15:38 | Bertl | is it commented out with a # ?
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15:38 | AndrewIsback | No
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15:39 | Bertl | okay, leave it this way for now
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15:39 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:39 | Bertl | it means that camera will not auto start
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15:39 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:39 | Bertl | now let's check the HDMI config
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15:39 | AndrewIsback | OK
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15:39 | Bertl | grep gen_init setup.sh
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15:40 | AndrewIsback | ./gen_init.sh 1080p60
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15:40 | AndrewIsback | # ./gen_init.sh SHOGUN
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15:40 | Bertl | okay, that means it is configure for PC monitor
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15:40 | Bertl | *configured
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15:40 | Bertl | now let's do:
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15:40 | Bertl | sync
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15:40 | Bertl | so that we do not lose any data :)
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15:40 | AndrewIsback | I used to type that three times :-)
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15:40 | Bertl | and run ./kick_manual.sh again
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15:41 | AndrewIsback | Yes!
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15:41 | AndrewIsback | Flashing blue!
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15:41 | AndrewIsback | And transmitting!
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15:41 | Bertl | \o/
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15:41 | AndrewIsback | Now wasn't that easy? ;-)
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15:41 | Bertl | it was, wasn't it?
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15:42 | AndrewIsback | ;-)
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15:42 | AndrewIsback | How do I stop the transmitting?
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15:42 | AndrewIsback | my family is clamoring for me to cook some food for them.
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15:43 | AndrewIsback | Or do I just unplug the power?
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15:43 | Bertl | I'm not asking how one does affect the other
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15:43 | Bertl | you can run halt_manual.sh
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15:43 | Bertl | and then
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15:43 | Bertl | shutdown -h now
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15:43 | Bertl | once ther red heartbeat stops, it is safe to pull the plug
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15:44 | Bertl | *the
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15:44 | AndrewIsback | Perfect!
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15:44 | Spirit532 | What could not halting it cause?
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15:44 | AndrewIsback | Thanks so much for the help in getting the thing started!
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15:44 | Bertl | filesystem is log based, so normally it doesn't do anything
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15:44 | Spirit532 | Oh, and - is this a "developer" developer unit, or a preorder-based unit?
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15:45 | Bertl | but if you are very unlucky, you could lose your latest data
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15:45 | AndrewIsback | For using the Ninja2, do I use the Shogun settings?
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15:45 | Bertl | probably, but you also need to download the 30FPS firmware
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15:45 | AndrewIsback | OK, can we do that?
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15:46 | Bertl | do some cooking, I'll see that we find a copy for you
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15:46 | AndrewIsback | OK :-)
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15:46 | AndrewIsback | I'll be back soon.
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16:20 | se6astian | bbl
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17:26 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Hi there, I am back.
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17:27 | Bertl | wb :)
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17:27 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Hey :-)
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17:28 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Managed to replicate the key thingy on the laptop that I'll be taking to demonstrate the Beta in Berlin :-)
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17:28 | Bertl | excellent!
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17:28 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/cmv_hdmi3_30.bit
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17:28 | Andrew_has_fed_h | So, is there a 30fps firmware that I can access?
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17:28 | Andrew_has_fed_h | An :-)
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17:28 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Ah…
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17:29 | Spirit532 | Bertl, what's the difference between the 30 and 60 firmware?
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17:29 | Spirit532 | Something major structurally?
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17:29 | Bertl | one does 1080p60, the other 1080p30
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17:29 | Spirit532 | yeah, I get that, I'm not a rock
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17:29 | Bertl | it is only PLL settings, so they could be changed at runtime
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17:29 | Bertl | but we haven't bothered yet to write the script
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17:30 | Spirit532 | why not implement the DMA communication between the two?
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17:30 | Spirit532 | I see
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17:30 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK, installed it.
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17:31 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Now the rm & ln?
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17:31 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Don't want to ruin my fine file system :-)
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17:31 | Bertl | yep, rm -f cmv_hdmi3.bit
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17:31 | Spirit532 | I accidently rm -rf *'d a production server once
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17:31 | Bertl | then ln -s cmv_hdmi3_30.bit cmv_hdmi3.bit
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17:32 | Spirit532 | now I re-read the input command 6 times before I press enter
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17:32 | Bertl | then reboot the Beta
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17:32 | Spirit532 | how is the bitstream loaded into the FPGA?
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17:32 | Andrew_has_fed_h | sync :-)
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17:32 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Press the little blue button?
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17:32 | Andrew_has_fed_h | RST
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17:33 | Andrew_has_fed_h | ReSeT?
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17:33 | Spirit532 | I want to take a look at that code if it's public
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17:33 | kaiserlich | woaahh, Spirit532, that sounds awful (the production server thing)
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17:33 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Reboot?
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17:33 | Spirit532 | I had a day-earlier backup :P
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17:33 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Or run "reboot"?
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17:34 | Bertl | shutdown -r now
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17:34 | kaiserlich | reminds me of the stackoverflow post that's been making the rounds (from last week? though it was apparently fake)
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17:35 | kaiserlich | Andrew: all your questions are really great, i've made a note to answer them in the documentation
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17:36 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Long live the dumb user ;-)
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17:36 | Bertl | the important part for documentation though is to wrap it in such way, that it isn't a cooking recipe
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17:36 | Spirit532 | I could have a go at that as well
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17:36 | Spirit532 | though the Beta is very far from a manual right now
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17:36 | Bertl | because the Beta is constantly changing and most cooking recipes we have on the Wiki are already outdated
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17:37 | Bertl | so I see two options there: 1) add a version number to each recipe
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17:37 | Bertl | 2) explain why one would be doing this or that and what it actually does
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17:37 | Andrew_has_fed_h | The Ninja 2 does not recognize the HDMI stream.
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17:37 | Bertl | in the latter case, it is relatively simple to figure it out, even if the Beta changed
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17:37 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Can I check the FPS?
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17:38 | Bertl | Andrew_has_fed_h: did you switch from the 'Montor' mode to the shogun mode?
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17:38 | kaiserlich | nah, not dumb user(s), but the camera should also be usable by non-nerds/non-techies (:
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17:38 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Ah, I just swapped the FW.
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17:38 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK, that was in the shell script, right?
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17:39 | Bertl | in the setup.sh, you need to comment out the ./gen_init.sh 1080p60
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17:39 | Bertl | and remove the # from the SHOGUN line
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17:39 | Bertl | i.e. change it to:
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17:39 | Bertl | # ./gen_init.sh 1080p60
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17:39 | Bertl | ./gen_init.sh SHOGUN
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17:39 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Can I get some vi help please?
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17:39 | Bertl | well, you already learned the commands ':' and 'x' :)
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17:39 | Andrew_has_fed_h | A tiny FTP server would make this kind of thing much easier.
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17:40 | Spirit532 | nano is simpler, isn't it?
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17:40 | kaiserlich | i find vi(m) simpler (;
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17:40 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK, here we go…
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17:40 | Bertl | kaiserlich: it is actually vim
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17:40 | Bertl | Andrew_has_fed_h: you can install one, it is Arch linux
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17:40 | Bertl | although I'd suggest to make a backup of your SD card first ;-)
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17:41 | Andrew_has_fed_h | I won't touch that for now.
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17:41 | kaiserlich | for editing a file with vim, you'll have to first press i for INSERT
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17:41 | kaiserlich | that's the edit mode basically
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17:41 | kaiserlich | and to exit it again, press ESC
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17:42 | Andrew_has_fed_h | How do I write in a vi line?
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17:42 | Bertl | 'i' is insert, 'r' is replace
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17:42 | Bertl | both will put you into edit mode
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17:42 | Bertl | http://vim.rtorr.com/
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17:42 | kaiserlich | once you are in edit mode, you can just press enter to start a new line
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17:43 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK, fixed the script
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17:43 | Bertl | this one is also nice:
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17:43 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Mental note: study vi commands :-)
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17:43 | Bertl | http://g3-fabwordpress.rhcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-01-05_180820.png
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17:43 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Nice!
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17:44 | Spirit532 | nano is simpler for a newbie IMO
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17:44 | Bertl | so, test with another reboot (shutdown -r now)
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17:44 | Bertl | the advantage of vi is that it is basically installed on any system
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17:44 | kaiserlich | the most basic commands in vim really are i for the insert mode, then ESC for exiting the insert mode (so a lot of times, you will switch between the two) and then the colon followed by a letter, the most important of which are :w for writing, :q for quitting... :x is the two combined (i.e. saving and quitting)
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17:45 | Spirit532 | sounds a little complex
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17:45 | kaiserlich | whenever i accidentally nano things, i never know how to quit it again
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17:45 | kaiserlich | (like when it's set as the default editor)
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17:45 | Spirit532 | ctrl+c N?
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17:45 | Bertl | yeah, that sounds intuitive :)
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17:45 | Spirit532 | or ctrl+x N/Y
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17:46 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK, the Ninja 2 still sees no signal.
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17:46 | Bertl | anyway, I'm not suggesting that everybody uses vi
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17:46 | kaiserlich | re: vim again – you have to be in non-insert mode to be able to type the colon+letter combination
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17:46 | Bertl | Andrew_has_fed_h: run ./cmv_perf3
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17:48 | Andrew_has_fed_h | .9.95 FPS
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17:48 | Andrew_has_fed_h | 29.95 FPS
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17:48 | Andrew_has_fed_h | 30.01 FPS
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17:48 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Looks right
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17:48 | Bertl | so you are generating 30FPS
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17:48 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Yes
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17:48 | Bertl | let's try something else
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17:48 | Bertl | ./rf_sel.py A
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17:49 | Bertl | ./pic_jtag_pcie.py 0x92 0x92
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17:49 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Yes!
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17:49 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Locked on!
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17:50 | Bertl | does the picture look okay?
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17:50 | Bertl | any red stripes or strange offsets?
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17:50 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Have to attach a lens…
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17:50 | Bertl | lol
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17:53 | Andrew_has_fed_h | It's quite dark,
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17:53 | kaiserlich | was that nick supposed to be andrew has fed his family? :D
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17:53 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Yes :-)
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17:53 | kaiserlich | (just noticed)
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17:54 | Bertl | Andrew_has_fed_h: first adjust the aperture, if you are using one of the comlite adapters, make sure that they show 1F
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17:56 | Bertl | then, if it is still too dark, you can increase the exposure time
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17:56 | Bertl | e.g. with ./cmv_snap3 -e 50ms -z
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17:58 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Bertl, shall I send you a screen shot?
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18:01 | Bertl | yes, please
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18:02 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Can I have your eMail-address?
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18:02 | Bertl | can you upload it somewhere?
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18:02 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK
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18:02 | Bertl | or is that a problem?
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18:03 | Andrew_has_fed_h | https://www.yousendit.com/download/ZWJYa3NWSWg1R085TE5Vag
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18:04 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Filming the screen I could create some moiré.
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18:04 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Also, the Ninja 2 display was funny.
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18:05 | Andrew_has_fed_h | The two audio meters are like stuck in front of the logo.
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18:05 | Bertl | okay, so that is a snapshot or recorded with the ninja?
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18:06 | Andrew_has_fed_h | And the border is only visible only top and right.
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18:07 | Andrew_has_fed_h | That is what I recorded on the Ninja.
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18:07 | Bertl | okay, but that seems to have everything as it should be, no?
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18:07 | Bertl | I mean, white border on all sides, logo,
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18:08 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Yes.
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18:08 | Andrew_has_fed_h | I just photograpged the screen…
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18:08 | Bertl | so it is the display on the ninja which cannot handle the full HD
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18:09 | Bertl | btw, you can adjust the overlay if you like to
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18:09 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Looks like it.
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18:09 | Bertl | i.e. add two pixel borders, etc
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18:11 | Bertl | but the fact that it is recording the full overlay means that it understands the signal just fine
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18:11 | Bertl | you can disable the overlay with: ./mimg -a -o -P 0
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18:12 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Here is the snapshot: ./pic_jtag_pcie.py 0x92 0x92
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18:12 | Andrew_has_fed_h | No ;-)
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18:13 | Andrew_has_fed_h | https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23tS9bIjRt6R2o1T3JTRkNjRlk&usp=sharing
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18:13 | Bertl | yeah, I guess it just down-samples the full HD and this in turn removes the 1 pixel borders
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18:14 | Bertl | you might also want to move the logo to the right, if you want to have it
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18:14 | Andrew_has_fed_h | What is the overlay picture?
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18:16 | Bertl | ./mimg -a -o /opt/IMG/overlay_04.rgb
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18:16 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OK, I have to take off. Will have to leave the tweaking for tomorrow.
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18:16 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Thanks Bertl!
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18:16 | Bertl | in kick_manual.sh loads the overlay
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18:17 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Exploring all the aspects will be FUN :-)
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18:17 | Andrew_has_fed_h | OTOH I also have to get some filming done…
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18:18 | Andrew_has_fed_h | How does that experimental RAW recording work? Is there a page for that yet?
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18:18 | Andrew_has_fed_h | Oops, time to go. Catch you later!
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18:18 | Bertl | doesn't work with p30
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18:18 | Bertl | unless you want to record with 15 frames per second :)
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18:25 | Spirit532 | My plans to peacefully go to bed were ended abruptly by a 15 gigabit per second DDoS attack that brought my hoster's datacenter to it's knees. Directed towards me.
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18:26 | Spirit532 | Bertl, is the unit Andrew has a developer unit sent on schedule, or something special? He mentioned showing it in Berlin.
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18:27 | Bertl | that is one of the Early Betas we are sending out
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18:27 | Spirit532 | I see
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20:52 | Alex_Chooks | Hi guys, I was thinking about the external recorder, and I'm using a lot the raspberry pi and I found this on crowdfunding campaign : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2073955313/pidrive-low-power-msata-ssd-for-the-raspberry-pi/description
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20:52 | Alex_Chooks | I'm not sure if it's usable for this thing but I will be very happy to see a raspberry pi in a axiom camera :)
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20:58 | se6astian | basically we have a raspberry pi inside the camera already as the Zynq has a dual arm cpu on board and we run linux on them :)
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20:58 | Alex_Chooks | yes right ! :)
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20:59 | se6astian | this addon board explains they are limited to usb bus speed
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20:59 | Bertl | the SATA board will give you speeds up to 50MB/s
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20:59 | se6astian | so that will not even get close to the kind of bandwidth we need to write video
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20:59 | Bertl | each SD card in the AXIOM Beta (there are two of them) can do 25MB/s
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21:00 | Bertl | so you are probably better off storing the data to high quality SD cards instead ...
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21:02 | Bertl | but if somebody actually builds an HDMI in addon for the RPi which uses the proprietary camera interface, then it would be possible to do 3D GPU magic on the AXIOM output on the RPi
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21:03 | Alex_Chooks | Hummm interesting !
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21:03 | Bertl | note that this was already attempted but failed.
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21:03 | Alex_Chooks | with a raspberry pi 3 ?
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21:04 | Bertl | IIRC, with an older model
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21:05 | Alex_Chooks | because the raspberry pi allow 4K on hdmi port. technically it's off of my skills ! but I'm trying to found some solutions ! :)
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21:05 | Alex_Chooks | *raspberry pi 3
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21:39 | Rex0r | < Feeling like a caveman.
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21:39 | se6astian | I am off to bed cave!
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21:39 | se6astian | not to mistake for the batcave
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21:41 | Bertl | Rex0r: how's that?
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21:42 | Rex0r | Because I've read everything in here throughout the day.
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21:42 | Rex0r | You're clever lads.
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21:48 | Rex0r | se6astian at the hair cave
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21:51 | Bertl | admit it, you are just jealous :)
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21:55 | se6astian | changed nick to: se6astian|away
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21:59 | Rex0r | Well, yeah, but it's the financial outlay that makes me realise how lucky I am. Bills at the hair cave must be horrendous.
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21:59 | Bertl | indeed
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22:50 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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23:08 | Rex0r | nn
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23:31 | danieel | Alex_Chooks: which RPi can do 4k on hdmi ? the pixel clock is limited to 165MHz.. so are you talking about 4k at 15Hz? :)
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