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| 01:17 | Sasha_C | Good afternoon everyone
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| 01:18 | Sasha_C | Is it possible to get a transcript of last night's meeting?
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| 01:39 | FergusL | hio Sasha_C, sorry I wasn't there for the meeting so I can't help
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| 01:39 | FergusL | 'evening Bertl, still up ?
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| 01:46 | Sasha_C | FergusL: No worries, thanks for letting me know
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| 02:20 | Bertl | I'm still kind of aroun
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| 02:20 | Bertl | +d
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| 02:20 | Bertl | but you have to contact sebastian for transcripts
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| 03:24 | dmj_nova | evening Sasha_C
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| 03:25 | Sasha_C | greeting dmj_nova
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| 03:26 | Sasha_C | *greetings
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| 03:32 | Sasha_C | dmj_nova: how is your design for a case system coming along?
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| 03:37 | dmj_nova | Sasha_C: haven't had a chance to work on it since the meeting
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| 03:38 | dmj_nova | needed sleep and then went out to celebrate the doctor who 50th
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| 03:39 | troy_s | How did the video team meeting go?
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| 03:40 | troy_s | rexbron: ? ^^
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| 03:40 | troy_s | I would love a transcript.
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| 03:42 | dmj_nova | I think there's still some work ahead to crystallize the results of the meeting into something we can use, but progress was made
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| 03:44 | dmj_nova | troy_s: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63090
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| 03:46 | Bertl | a lego rocket launcher! :)
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| 03:46 | dmj_nova | Bertl: :P
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| 03:46 | FergusL | I want it more Aatonesque
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| 03:46 | FergusL | (bonjour troy_s)
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| 03:47 | dmj_nova | FergusL: what about that do you mean?
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| 03:47 | FergusL | the shape of the camera
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| 03:47 | FergusL | what is this picture demonstrating ?
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| 03:48 | dmj_nova | FergusL: it's very placeholdery still
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| 03:48 | dmj_nova | but it
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| 03:48 | FergusL | I get it :)
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| 03:48 | dmj_nova | 's meant to show how the modules could be used in a device that behaves as a singular shoulder unit
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| 03:49 | FergusL | I see, yes
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| 03:50 | dmj_nova | basically form factor can be an integration problem, rather than a complete redesign problem
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| 03:50 | FergusL | I think operators generally like to have one single block
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| 03:51 | dmj_nova | FergusL: but do operators care much if the single block has blocks inside it?
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| 03:52 | FergusL | their 1st or 2nd ACs will but that's another part of the story
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| 03:52 | FergusL | I gues they don't if it's well balanced
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| 03:53 | dmj_nova | FergusL: I think it is possible to have our cake and eat it too, so long as we get the ergonomics and "it just works" form factor right
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| 03:53 | dmj_nova | things like balance and so forth
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| 03:54 | dmj_nova | FergusL: Where exactly should the center of gravity be in a shoulder cam?
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| 03:54 | dmj_nova | precisely center on the shoulder?
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| 03:54 | FergusL | hahaha, to have our cake and eat it ? never read that !
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| 03:55 | dmj_nova | FergusL: you've never seen that expression?
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| 03:55 | Bertl | from the physical point of view I guess it would be the right foot :)
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| 03:55 | dmj_nova | It's a common english idiom.
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| 03:57 | FergusL | I'm not sure I can give a definite answer, definitely not in the center like it should stand still when dropping the handles, slightly in the front to have it tend to fall this way, know what I mean ?
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| 03:57 | FergusL | and to make sure that there is some weight on the hands
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| 03:57 | dmj_nova | so slightly in front but not so much that it takes effort to hold in place
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| 03:58 | FergusL | hm yes
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| 03:58 | FergusL | maybe troy_s could give some more insights
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| 03:58 | FergusL | but really do investigate the Aaton cameras
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| 03:58 | FergusL | these are known for their ease of handling and balance as well as softness on the shoulder
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| 03:59 | dmj_nova | I can look at pictures of them, but can't afford to play with one
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| 04:00 | FergusL | of course yes, I meant pictures yes
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| 04:02 | FergusL | their trademark is also the single wooden handle, we might like to add that as well to our design
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| 04:02 | FergusL | I've got a (very young) friend studying wood working, I asked him to see if he could make one for me
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| 04:02 | Bertl | so you intend to get sued
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| 04:03 | FergusL | I was wondering
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| 04:03 | FergusL | let's make it a left handle in a different wood
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| 04:04 | FergusL | there are already some small one-man businesses offering to make perfect replicas for DSLRs setup
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| 05:10 | dmj_nova | is that actually a trademark?
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| 05:10 | dmj_nova | probably just fine using another material
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| 05:12 | dmj_nova | FergusL: or do you mean that it's just rather distinctive and nobody else has done it?
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| 05:13 | FergusL | yes just distinctive
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| 05:14 | FergusL | but highly appreciated among operators that have known their cameras
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| 05:17 | dmj_nova | FergusL: needed to make sure that's all it was
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| 05:31 | troy_s | FergusL: Bonjour. Comme ça va?
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| 07:10 | dmj_nova | 'night all
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| 07:10 | sasha_c | Night
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| 08:24 | Bertl | off to bed now .... have a good one everyone
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| 15:19 | Bertl | morning everyone!
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| 15:34 | FergusL | morning/evening !
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