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2020/04/26

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04:26
Bertl_oO
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
04:26
Bertl_oO
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10:17
panintended
Good day people!
10:18
panintended
I've assigned myself to this https://lab.apertus.org/T1184
10:20
panintended
BAndiT1983: I see that scrolling using the knob is already done. Let me know when you have some time to discuss
10:33
BAndiT1983|away
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10:33
BAndiT1983
hi
10:36
BAndiT1983
panintended: have time now
10:37
panintended
Hi
10:40
panintended
firstly: 1. are you working on this? If yes, I can switch to 1185
10:40
panintended
2. I want to understand how/when the GUI elements (buttons/knob) are polled
10:41
BAndiT1983
nope, was trying to straighten out the debug painter, but was stopped for 1.5 days by some incident
10:42
BAndiT1983
you can try to add the button to the center of the knob, what i was trying to do is to block the area, so the knob does not interfere with the button
10:45
panintended
yes, I noticed you had a TODO in ImGui::Knob()
10:46
panintended
OK, I'll proceed with 1184 then. thanks
10:47
BAndiT1983
have fun
10:47
panintended
and I realized that question (2) might be answered in the newcomer's guide for dear imgui
10:49
BAndiT1983
there is no problem to ask any question here, either one will answer them or guide to a webpage
10:50
BAndiT1983
looks like disabling the knob while hovering over the button could work, example here -> https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/issues/1889
11:12
panintended
thank you for the effort. I'll have a look
11:14
BAndiT1983
no problem
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11:39
metal_dent[m]
se6ast1an: the information you've provided in the doc is very very helpful, thank you I just checked!!
11:40
se6ast1an
Great
11:41
se6ast1an
We should finish everything in the doc and them move it to GitHub in markdown, possibly the readme
11:41
BAndiT1983
will check the document later, had no possibility till today
11:42
BAndiT1983
should i share my updated version of the task runner plugin? have added a refresh button, so the tasks are updated instantly, also placed pull request for it and asked if there are more proper ways to update automatically (am lacking the knowledge there, as i haven't written plugins for vscode before)
12:13
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12:19
BAndiT1983
metal_dent[m]: what is your current task?
12:43
metal_dent[m]
umm.. right now I'm cleaning up my code for the home button and implementing the loose coupling concept and also preparing about my gsoc tasks
12:45
BAndiT1983
ok, give me a ping to check the code
12:48
metal_dent[m]
yeah, sure :)
12:51
metal_dent[m]
btw.. how's the situation there regarding COVID-19? any developments..?
12:52
BAndiT1983
don't know for sure, was cut a bit off as we had no electricity because of the fire in the building
12:52
BAndiT1983
but some experts fear the second wave, as people relax too much
12:52
metal_dent[m]
> don't know for sure, was cut a bit off as we had no electricity because of the fire in the building
12:52
metal_dent[m]
oh my god! that's terrible!!
12:53
metal_dent[m]
> but some experts fear the second wave, as people relax too much
12:53
metal_dent[m]
yeah, read in the news the curve is flattening in Europe
12:54
BAndiT1983
seems like flatteningm but i can't say for sure at the moment as government has ordered that masks are mandatory
12:54
BAndiT1983
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
12:57
metal_dent[m]
they should be and also avoid going outside too..
12:59
BAndiT1983
tell it to the people, e.g. when we were outside the building in the night, waiting for the fire to be extinguished and smoke removed, they've gathered around the police or firemen/-women to get the latest news
12:59
BAndiT1983
no distancing at all
13:02
metal_dent[m]
exactly! people need to understand otherwise this can't be stopped. My building is literally locked as the city is one of the top hotspots, and it's been ages since I went outside
13:03
BAndiT1983
what i miss is a proper corona test, as i had a week of terrible headache, fever and other nice stuff, instantly after arriving from paris at the beginning of march, was maybe something else, as a doctor told me that it is intestinal flu, but could also have been covid19
13:06
metal_dent[m]
ohoo, so you didn't get properly tested then
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13:11
se6ast1an
back now, BAndiT1983 I saw you successfully moved the dev branch to the top, now we can get rid of master branch?
13:11
BAndiT1983
nope, as the test range was reduced to groups with certain symptoms and the approval had to be acquired from the doctors union or so
13:11
BAndiT1983
se6ast1an: you can remove it if you want, but we will need it for sure later
13:12
se6ast1an
I can also empty it but then we carry the entire filehistory with us
13:12
se6ast1an
or rename ot "archive"?
13:12
se6ast1an
*to
13:12
BAndiT1983
it's the problem of git, as now the dev branch will be checked out by default
13:13
BAndiT1983
but later we will use master to keep the latest state, as we need proper versioning and development, otherwise we could introduce errors and people will complain a lot
13:15
metal_dent[m]
> nope, as the test range was reduced to groups with certain symptoms and the approval had to be acquired from the doctors union or so
13:15
metal_dent[m]
Oh, but aren't fever, cold some main symptoms of corona?
13:16
BAndiT1983
yes, but also many people with slight symptoms wanted tests, have just stayed at home and went to the company on monday after the week of illness, luckily from the tuesday on it was ordered to stay in home office for most people
13:17
BAndiT1983
stayed at home = trying to cure with tablets, sleep and so on
13:20
metal_dent[m]
Ohoo, good then!
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13:38
se6ast1an
deleted old master branch in AXIOM Remote now
13:38
se6ast1an
and pushed more restructuring and documentation additions
13:38
se6ast1an
do you think the google doc content is ready for being added to the github readme?
13:39
BAndiT1983
yes, as it has the basics which should be involved when developing
13:39
BAndiT1983
should we split the work on it? as i haven't continued to develop yet, but will in a moment
13:41
se6ast1an
good idea
13:41
se6ast1an
I will do the AXIOM Remote UI guidelines
13:41
se6ast1an
as that was mostly my content anyways
13:41
se6ast1an
metal_dent[m]: do you want to take the "Terms used in the GUI" ?
13:42
se6ast1an
and "Screens" for you BAndiT1983?
13:49
Bertl_zZ
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13:49
Bertl
morning folks!
13:49
se6ast1an
good day
13:49
BAndiT1983
sounds good
13:51
se6ast1an
I am not sure we can/should use the example images for the action buttons I stole from the internet though
13:51
BAndiT1983
which one do you mean?
13:51
BAndiT1983
usually i use self-created images, like SVGs in inkscape
13:52
se6ast1an
page 4
13:54
BAndiT1983
as example they are okay, but we can place mock-ups for the remote UI, to show how it should look like
13:58
se6ast1an
ok
14:00
se6ast1an
AXIOM Remote UI guidelines done
14:03
metal_dent[m]
> metal_dent: do you want to take the "Terms used in the GUI" ?
14:03
metal_dent[m]
Sure!
14:03
se6ast1an
great
14:03
metal_dent[m]
> AXIOM Remote UI guidelines done
14:03
metal_dent[m]
Have you pushed it?
14:03
se6ast1an
yes
14:04
metal_dent[m]
Okay, will check in a moment :)
14:04
se6ast1an
please use the readme as "close" to the related code as possible, so that would be in the /Firmware/ folder for GUI terms and GUI guidelines
14:05
se6ast1an
I also updated the root readme in the repo to explain what the different folders contains in terms of different projects
15:39
metal_dent[m]
done!
15:39
metal_dent[m]
the image is not centered, but for that i think we need to css to the md file
15:41
BAndiT1983
build status in the main readme should be at the top, after the title
15:41
BAndiT1983
metal_dent[m]: which image do you mean?
15:42
metal_dent[m]
the GUI image in the Firmware/README
15:42
se6ast1an
did you use the content from the old readme or the google doc?
15:42
metal_dent[m]
google doc
15:42
se6ast1an
good
15:42
se6ast1an
the formating is not the same as in the google doc yet
15:42
se6ast1an
only 4 bullet points...
15:43
metal_dent[m]
wait wait wait...
15:43
metal_dent[m]
there's a problem
15:44
metal_dent[m]
> only 4 bullet points...
15:44
metal_dent[m]
yes, am so sorry, i'll fix it right away
15:44
BAndiT1983
https://gist.github.com/DavidWells/7d2e0e1bc78f4ac59a123ddf8b74932d
15:46
se6ast1an
I also just saw that the terms menuItem are actually written MenuItem in https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/AXIOM-Remote/blob/dev/Firmware/UI/Widgets/MenuItem.h
15:46
se6ast1an
please verify
15:53
metal_dent[m]
yup, you're right
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metal_dent[m]
i should also change "PageItem" and "ParameterMenu"..?
16:14
BAndiT1983
yes
16:41
se6ast1an
merged, great!
16:43
metal_dent[m]
Thanks!
16:45
BAndiT1983
have you used the markdown plugin in vscode for writing?
16:46
BAndiT1983
metal_dent[m]: do you continue with the home button now?
16:46
metal_dent[m]
> have you used the markdown plugin in vscode for writing?
16:46
metal_dent[m]
No, I haven't
16:46
BAndiT1983
really useful, as it has live preview also
16:47
BAndiT1983
using it usually when doing markdown
16:47
metal_dent[m]
> metal_dent: do you continue with the home button now?
16:47
metal_dent[m]
Yes, I will continue but do you think I should be working on something else?
16:48
BAndiT1983
no, as it's a good exercise, but we need to define a road map for it, so you know which route to take
16:48
BAndiT1983
please describe what your next steps would be
16:52
metal_dent[m]
As I told you, currently I'm reading up about loose coupling as I haven't used it before, also will properly check out the code structure then will code it and wait for your review..
16:53
metal_dent[m]
> no, as it's a good exercise, but we need to define a road map for it, so you know which route to take
16:53
metal_dent[m]
Yes, a properly defined route would be awesome as I haven't worked on such a large project before so it'll helpful
16:53
BAndiT1983
you could start by creating a calss named ImageButton, which derives from IButton
16:54
BAndiT1983
large? :D you haven't seen large projects yet, which had a lot of modules, partially .exe ones, others produced .dll and everything had to play together, but the worst thing was wonky COM object usage
16:56
metal_dent[m]
Yes of course, and I like all the terms and concepts I'm learning from it :)
16:59
BAndiT1983
btw. checked out the docs and opened in vscode with preview, my markdown linter is complaining a bit, e.g. one should not use - for the list, but *
17:00
se6ast1an
github allows +, - and *
17:00
se6ast1an
https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet
17:03
BAndiT1983
hm, they have watered down the markdown guidelines a bit, will check if i can adjust my linter to it
17:07
BAndiT1983
actually github was announcing the move to CommonMark shortly before this page was updated last time
17:07
BAndiT1983
https://guides.github.com/pdfs/markdown-cheatsheet-online.pdf
17:09
BAndiT1983
ah, here is also the main page -> https://guides.github.com/features/mastering-markdown/
17:11
BAndiT1983
but i'm not smarter after some searches, as either the pages are older or the guidelines are showing different syntax
17:14
Bertl
could you please check what is written on the transitor on the Axiom Remote labeled Q1?
17:15
Bertl
which is right beside the TFT connector at the bottom
17:15
Bertl
on the side where the row of large resistors is
17:17
BAndiT1983
give me a minute, the board is on my shelf
17:17
Bertl
no problem, tx
17:19
BAndiT1983
let me also grab my canon, as i have macro lens on it and haven't got any microscope yet
17:21
BAndiT1983
A02, if i'm not mistaken
17:23
Bertl
hmm, okay, then it is not the transistor I have in the schematic ... interesting
17:51
BAndiT1983
Bertl: which one was expected?
17:58
BAndiT1983
off for a moment, will be back later
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BAndiT1983
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18:14
Bertl
well, the one I originally planned has AA% where % is a number
18:16
Bertl
(would have been the NX3008NBKW)
18:16
Bertl
in the newer design I've changed the name to MMBT2222
18:18
Bertl
which is strange, as the MMBT2222 is a different package
18:20
Bertl
but I'm not able to find an N-channel mosfet with A02 marking either
18:20
Bertl
of course, could be a marking like A0% which is hard to spot
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BAndiT1983|away
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19:40
BAndiT1983
i clearly see A02 or AO2
19:40
BAndiT1983
should i upload the image?
19:59
Bertl
nah, it's fine, I already decided to go with a completely different transistor
20:00
BAndiT1983
https://pasteboard.co/J5DpwbP.jpg
20:01
BAndiT1983
too late ;)
20:01
Bertl
ah, nevertheless interesting ... it is not the correct package
20:02
Bertl
i.e. the transitor used on your remote looks like a SOT-416 package
20:02
Bertl
while it should be an SOT-323
20:02
Bertl
funny fact, the transistor I used now is also SOT-416
20:03
BAndiT1983
my remote was heavily modified by you
20:04
Bertl
yes, but not for Q1, I probably had a similar problem as I had right now and found a similar solution
20:05
Bertl
anyway, no big deal, was just curious
20:05
BAndiT1983
which problem do you mean?
20:06
Bertl
the device called out for in the schematics do not match the footprint and I do not have them at home
20:07
Bertl
so it seems when I designed it, I took a default transistor and didn't bother to update it once I populated the PCB
20:07
Bertl
which in turn means, that I didn't have a suitable part for the first batch, otherwise I would have updated it
20:07
Bertl
and indeed, the picture suggests that a smaller package was used
20:09
BAndiT1983
have looked up some cheap usb microscopes, but they are a bit disappointing, have to look a bit more to know what is possible and what the prices are, as x1000 is digitally enhanced, in fact they do x40 according to review
20:10
Bertl
I'm quite happy with the DigiMicro series von dnt
20:10
Bertl
s/von/from/
20:11
Bertl
they are reasonably cheap, unproblematic and have a good quality
20:11
BAndiT1983
there are like zillion of models, but all look the same at amazon
20:12
Bertl
there is a Lab version with a display (if you fancy that over using the PC)
20:12
BAndiT1983
if it has real zoom of 230x, then it would be good, but most chinese products are tricking the customers
20:12
BAndiT1983
USB is fine, e.g. can create a holder for my smartphone
20:13
Bertl
the DigiMicro scale has 1600x1200 and 10-200x magnification
20:13
Bertl
(those are the hardware side specs, no software involved)
20:14
BAndiT1983
this would be enough for most things
20:14
Bertl
https://cdn-reichelt.de/documents/datenblatt/H100/DNTDIGIMICRO.pdf
20:16
Bertl
if you want a real world test image, I can make one for you, just let me know ...
20:17
BAndiT1983
when you are at it, then yes, please create an image, but i don't want to bother you right now, has no urgency to it, will first print some enclosure for my board, as the previous one is too tight and also have to replace 2 tactical switches, as they broke without the proper enclosure
20:18
Bertl
okay
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