| 23:50 | danieel | left the channel |
| 23:52 | danieel | joined the channel |
| 00:44 | jucar | left the channel |
| 01:02 | jucar | joined the channel |
| 01:04 | rexbron_ | joined the channel |
| 01:04 | troy_s | left the channel |
| 01:05 | rexbron | left the channel |
| 01:05 | troy_s | joined the channel |
| 01:23 | troy_s | Dammit.
|
| 01:23 | troy_s | Bertl: Are you able to download Seb's links?
|
| 01:23 | troy_s | His "cloud" is more like "ground"
|
| 01:28 | troy_s | rexbron_: Ping. slikdigit Ping.
|
| 01:29 | troy_s | If either can pull this file I'd appreciate it. https://cloud.gerade.org/index.php/apps/files/download/public/Axiom/alpha/IT8-Daylight-Shadow-2014-23-02_14-45-35.raw16.xz
|
| 01:33 | troy_s | FergusL: Move and try the above.
|
| 02:15 | gcolburn | joined the channel |
| 02:17 | Bertl | troy_s: it seems that not just apertus.org is affected from the server issues we are encountering but also sebastians own cloud
|
| 02:17 | Bertl | hopefully services will be restored during the day
|
| 02:41 | troy_s | Let's hope so Bertl
|
| 02:41 | troy_s | I promised Se6 that I'd have the matrix done.
|
| 02:42 | troy_s | But it won't be happening. :(
|
| 03:19 | gcolburn | left the channel |
| 05:53 | jucar | left the channel |
| 05:54 | jucar | joined the channel |
| 05:55 | jucar | left the channel |
| 05:55 | jucar | joined the channel |
| 06:23 | SashaC | joined the channel |
| 06:31 | SashaC | left the channel |
| 07:03 | jucar | left the channel |
| 07:03 | danieel | left the channel |
| 07:10 | danieel | joined the channel |
| 07:11 | jucar | joined the channel |
| 07:18 | se6astian | joined the channel |
| 07:18 | se6astian | good morning
|
| 07:19 | Bertl | is it good? :)
|
| 07:20 | se6astian | could be better, could be worse
|
| 07:20 | Bertl | looks like a little better would be good
|
| 07:20 | Bertl | apertus.org ... still down
|
| 07:21 | Bertl | cloud ... still down
|
| 07:43 | SashaC | joined the channel |
| 07:45 | SashaC | Hey Se6astian, is the apertus website offline?
|
| 07:48 | Bertl | yup
|
| 07:49 | se6astian | it is
|
| 07:50 | SashaC | Thanks Bertl and Se6astian? Any idea how long this might last for? BTW, how are you guys feeling after Berlin?
|
| 07:51 | se6astian | I ll work on restoring it on another host after my c5d appointment
|
| 07:51 | se6astian | Berlin was great, we should write an article about it soon :)
|
| 07:52 | SashaC | Yeah, it's such an amazing place to be! Can't wait to hear more about it :)
|
| 08:02 | [1]se6astian | joined the channel |
| 08:05 | se6astian | left the channel |
| 08:05 | [1]se6astian | changed nick to: se6astian
|
| 08:12 | se6astian | left the channel |
| 09:23 | se6astian | joined the channel |
| 10:01 | danieel | left the channel |
| 10:01 | danieel | joined the channel |
| 10:20 | Topic | apertus° - open source cinema | www.apertus.org | Currently Hot: Axiom Alpha Development http://axiom.apertus.org/ | IRC Logs available at: http://irc.apertus.org
|
| 10:20 | se6astian | has set the topic |
| 10:54 | se6astian | joined the channel |
| 10:59 | intracube | joined the channel |
| 11:22 | jucar1 | joined the channel |
| 11:24 | jucar | left the channel |
| 12:07 | SashaC | left the channel |
| 12:33 | slikdigit_ | joined the channel |
| 12:41 | slikdigit | left the channel |
| 13:10 | intracube | left the channel |
| 13:47 | intracube | joined the channel |
| 14:47 | philippej | joined the channel |
| 15:23 | troy_s | Morning.
|
| 15:23 | se6astian | hi troy
|
| 15:23 | troy_s | se6astian: About to try the rain cloud.
|
| 15:24 | intracube | left the channel |
| 15:24 | troy_s | se6astian: Cloud is up. Username and password is as well.
|
| 15:24 | troy_s | :(
|
| 15:25 | troy_s | se6astian: The Wolf Faust works.
|
| 15:25 | troy_s | !
|
| 15:25 | troy_s | se6astian: The other is login only apparently.
|
| 15:25 | se6astian | I just tried, works fine
|
| 15:25 | troy_s | Would you like a screenshot?
|
| 15:26 | troy_s | se6astian: I get the "ownCloud" logon.
|
| 15:26 | troy_s | On the image.
|
| 15:27 | se6astian | I found the problem
|
| 15:27 | se6astian | pmed you
|
| 15:32 | troy_s | se6astian: Works. Guess as to the color temp of the sky?
|
| 15:36 | troy_s | se6astian: That's an unflipped image I take it?
|
| 15:42 | se6astian | yes
|
| 16:12 | Topic | apertus° - open source cinema | www.apertus.org | Currently Hot: Axiom Alpha Development http://axiom.apertus.org/ | IRC Logs available at: http://irc.apertus.org
|
| 16:12 | se6astian | has set the topic |
| 16:12 | troy_s | se6astian: And if you look at the profchek
|
| 16:13 | troy_s | se6astian: You can see that they are pretty dismal on the DE2k side (13)
|
| 16:14 | troy_s | se6astian: But the worst offenders are the darker swatches
|
| 16:14 | troy_s | G03 for example
|
| 16:14 | troy_s | F03 is perhaps the words
|
| 16:14 | troy_s | worst
|
| 16:15 | troy_s | And I see RGB values of 17.66, 17.378, 12.659
|
| 16:16 | troy_s | So... exposure.
|
| 16:16 | troy_s | Not clipped now, but too dark is my first guess.
|
| 16:16 | troy_s | se6astian: So some points... a little brighter (Quarter to third of a stop)
|
| 16:16 | troy_s | se6astian: Avoid the flare (very bad here, which is also likely completely skewing the results)
|
| 16:17 | jucar | joined the channel |
| 16:17 | troy_s | (The flare off of the bright white curtains is probably grabbing glass badly)
|
| 16:17 | se6astian | noted
|
| 16:18 | troy_s | se6astian: That's about all I can offer at this point.
|
| 16:18 | troy_s | se6astian: We need a way to figure out what the native exposure is so that you aren't blindly shooting.
|
| 16:18 | troy_s | se6astian: The guessing is killing us.
|
| 16:19 | troy_s | se6astian: If you take a light reading with an ambient (or a spot if you have one and a grey card) we could likely calculate it closely enough to give you a much better target.
|
| 16:19 | troy_s | So I guess the results of this experiment are "Qutie a bit better, but still unacceptable."
|
| 16:20 | Bertl | what is 'native' exposure?
|
| 16:24 | troy_s | Bertl: Any idea as to where the native gain is on the sensor?
|
| 16:25 | troy_s | Bertl: (If we know where the sweet spot is on the sensor, we can try to estimate an ISO. Most sensors just offset the latitude up and down when undergained or overgained, as opposed to adjusting a more traditional ISO sense.)
|
| 16:26 | troy_s | Bertl: Is there some control over the channels? Even with that likely 6000k shot (or so?) the blue channel seems _very_ low.
|
| 16:27 | troy_s | 77.857 77.719 54.126
|
| 16:27 | troy_s | That's an achromatic swatch.
|
| 16:27 | troy_s | Seems that the sensor is pretty heavily biased toward red.
|
| 16:29 | troy_s | Egads. "(Rating: 6): Zoom for focusing"
|
| 16:29 | troy_s | Uh... No.
|
| 16:29 | troy_s | Bertl: That reminds me... on the subject of framelines and overscan marks etc...
|
| 16:30 | troy_s | Bertl: It would be great if there were a buffer for say, three still images with associated alpha (like a TIFF)
|
| 16:30 | troy_s | Bertl: Such that you could cache mask settings. That would allow you to toggle between a couple to three differents for different needs. Variable opacity.
|
| 16:31 | troy_s | (and it indeed solves all of the issues regarding custom frame lines etc. Just generate an associated alpha TIFF of what you need and away you go.)
|
| 16:31 | troy_s | (Solves everything from simple frame line needs (standard mattes) to offset frame line needs (standard mattes offset to upper third (often used when the shooter _knows_ they are delivering to different formats to solve compositional problems)) etc.
|
| 16:32 | Bertl | okay, slow down, I have no idea what you're talking about :)
|
| 16:32 | Bertl | a buffer where? what do you want to buffer?
|
| 16:33 | Bertl | where does the alpha come from?
|
| 16:33 | Bertl | and is that regarding 'feature list' or more related to the matrix calibration?
|
| 16:38 | troy_s | Bertl: Sorry was reading list and forgot about something I was going to chat about.
|
| 16:38 | troy_s | Bertl: On the subject of frame lines and mattes for shooting:
|
| 16:39 | Bertl | so this is basically a feature idea/request then yes?
|
| 16:39 | troy_s | Bertl: When chatting with a playback fellow, we were discussing a newer vendor's display and he was wondering how to deal with framelines and such as he wanted a method to show the director the framelines. The problem is that he needed to show two variants.
|
| 16:39 | troy_s | Bertl: Not really a request... sort of mandatory. You need to know what you are shooting.
|
| 16:39 | Bertl | okay, so please put it together in an email to the list then
|
| 16:39 | troy_s | Bertl: I don't like that list.
|
| 16:40 | Bertl | how so?
|
| 16:40 | troy_s | Bertl: Just not into lists. Random noise.
|
| 16:40 | Bertl | well, otherwise the chance is good that the information gets lost somewhere
|
| 16:40 | troy_s | (Probably the crusty bugger that has been around dismal design in free / libre software for about 15 years.)
|
| 16:41 | Bertl | the only alternative I can think of right now is that you can add it to the wiki
|
| 16:41 | troy_s | I will stuff it into the philippej document.
|
| 16:41 | Bertl | i.e. create a feature collection on the wiki and add the features there
|
| 16:42 | troy_s | Bertl: Link me?
|
| 16:43 | Bertl | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
|
| 16:43 | Bertl | but give it an hour, we are currently moving the site
|
| 17:04 | Bertl | troy_s: okay, go crazy on the wiki, we have to sync it later anyway
|
| 17:04 | Bertl | +s
|
| 17:06 | philippej | left the channel |
| 17:43 | jucar | left the channel |
| 17:44 | jucar | joined the channel |
| 17:58 | philippej | joined the channel |
| 17:58 | philippej | left the channel |
| 18:03 | troy_s | Bertl / se6astian: Bumped main page to begin to include onboard hardware / software interface discussions.
|
| 18:03 | troy_s | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
|
| 18:03 | troy_s | Added immediate thoughts, order obviously still subject to change.
|
| 18:04 | troy_s | The default view is that top list of higher priority things that assists or shooters would probalby require at-a-glance
|
| 18:04 | troy_s | rexbron_: Have a peek and see if anything pops into mind.
|
| 18:05 | Bertl | can we do white balance/color correct? is it possible? :)
|
| 18:13 | troy_s | LOL
|
| 18:13 | troy_s | Bertl: I have high hopes if we can actually deduce the EI / ISO of the sensor at the native gain.
|
| 18:13 | troy_s | Bertl: Right now it's a lot like playing lawn darts in the dark on Mars.
|
| 18:13 | troy_s | Bertl: Where we only get to actually figure out the score once every year for about a month.
|
| 18:14 | troy_s | Bertl: Refreshed it. Also included some of the discussion on file format breakdown for filenames.
|
| 18:14 | troy_s | Bertl: Obviously it is subject to how to dump to the filesystem, but I suspect that you were leaning toward a single blob with the raw frames inside, and the format listed is in line with that.
|
| 18:16 | Bertl | okay
|
| 18:20 | troy_s | Aight. Back to work.
|
| 18:55 | se6astian1 | joined the channel |
| 18:55 | se6astian1 | test
|
| 18:55 | se6astian | great
|
| 18:55 | se6astian | ü
|
| 18:55 | se6astian1 | ü
|
| 19:04 | FergusL | hi here, hi troy_s
|
| 19:06 | shinokubo | joined the channel |
| 19:12 | Bertl | off for a nap ... bbl
|
| 20:15 | troy_s | Wholly crap I hate that thread.
|
| 20:15 | troy_s | I was going to reply, but egads it fills me with the urge to vomit.
|
| 20:16 | troy_s | On Focus: No. No. No.
|
| 20:16 | troy_s | Focus is the person who is focusing the damn camera, and unless the design has shifted to a fscking newsie camera, it is a moot point. Offer the SDI out and let the peaking and magnification to the display of the focus puller.
|
| 20:32 | troy_s | Uuuggghghghghghhhhhh I hit send. #hatemailinglists
|
| 20:59 | se6astian | well done my son, now three ave marias and five lords prayers
|
| 21:05 | se6astian | time for me to climb into my coffin, I will revive tomorrow!
|
| 21:05 | se6astian | left the channel |
| 21:05 | se6astian1 | left the channel |
| 21:31 | shinokubo | good night everybody
|
| 21:31 | shinokubo | left the channel |