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2023/11/23

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max_bxl
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max_bxl
hello everyone !
10:15
max_bxl
apertus IRL brussels here !
10:16
max_bxl
Bertl: we can resume the debugging of last week if it's a good moment for you !
10:19
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Bertl
currently not a good moment, we are getting stuff delivered shortly
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max_bxl
ok ! let me now when, I can be around the Beta with my computer until 2pm (even a bit more)
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zvevqx
hi everyone
10:35
zvevqx
changed nick to: julien_bxl
10:38
julien_bxl
quick question , we try some super easy stuff to begin with : connect and MCU ( arduino / esp ... ) to the usb port and see if wi can create some kindo of a pendant interface to the camera ( take snapshot / execute axiom_start / shutdown ... you name it ) BUT the mcu doens't show up to pyserial neither on the tty list ?
10:39
max_bxl
for the raw recording, this magwell on ebay seems a legit one, right ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/235270040199?epid=9026500655&hash=item36c72fea87:g:QkEAAOSwTHFlOWIJ&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Jdz1xTn22HVFqrGPkLgtaNAVlzKGwlIxfplUexjtxAduabkldBbaOtul5KdhsYnClNZ3LzW1rCfVWxSULrNGMLdeAk1I%2BebD8DGN3MvH7E1Loh45TzJTymXDKxGlrFP5wDzNuSy%2BVkP5uGIhU0Cb%2FygEs%2B1vPaJjVIXclR5N4Iod45l%2BC03h2BY8P7f5QwkACZmsBSQCcNxevpCE773ONywSiy4CUxw2zYF6oQz%2B7l
10:39
max_bxl
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10:44
se6astian
yes, looks good
10:44
se6astian
and good price
10:45
se6astian
you connected the arduino to your laptop and want to connect to it over serial interface?
10:45
julien_bxl
no connected to the beta cam
10:45
max_bxl
through the usb port on the microzed
10:47
se6astian
I am just reading about a very similar setup with arduino and raspberry pi here
10:47
se6astian
https://roboticsbackend.com/raspberry-pi-arduino-serial-communication/#Serial_via_USB
10:47
se6astian
it covers for example the Hardware permissions for Serial
10:52
max_bxl
concerning the ebay item : do we have someone in the USA that could receive the package ? (this seller does not ship outside the US)
10:54
julien_bxl
se6astian thx for the link i'm aware obout the permission ( i think the dialout rules doen't apply to arch system not on mine at leat but via a udev rules) the think is the arduino ( wtah ever mcu ) doenst show up in the ttyXXX list
10:55
se6astian
hmm, not from the top of my head
10:55
se6astian
right, maybe Bertl has a tip here then
10:56
se6astian
the arduino powers properly right?
10:56
se6astian
because the power from the beta USB port might not be enough?
10:57
julien_bxl
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arduino see 2.1 for uart access
10:58
julien_bxl
did try with 5v and 3.3v mcu ..
11:21
julien_bxl
ok I maybe have some hint :
11:22
julien_bxl
\blsusb\b do show the usbport of the mcu ( serial convertor [ftdi / cp210x / whatever it is ])
11:22
julien_bxl
lsusb sorry
11:24
julien_bxl
the serial port doesnt so up in the /dev/ttyXXX list
11:25
julien_bxl
also ( and that's where i thinks the solution is ) whane looking for kernel module
11:26
julien_bxl
modinfo usbserial and modinfo cp210x are both NOT found
11:27
julien_bxl
when manually loading them : modprobe: FATAL: Module usbserial not found in directory /lib/modules/5.8.1-axiom
11:27
julien_bxl
same for both
11:30
julien_bxl
is it possible that this module are not part of the kernel ?
11:32
se6astian
Yes, possible
11:32
se6astian
Bertl?
11:37
Bertl
the kernel on my Beta is 5.16.11-axiom and modinfo shows stuff for e.g. usbserial
11:38
Bertl
i.e. more details about your image are required
11:39
julien_bxl
5.8.1-axiom
11:40
julien_bxl
how is possible ? you did an update on the live system ? this is the vanilla system from the iso download
11:43
Bertl
I have no overview of the newer Axiom Beta images, but I think it was a normal SD image install
11:44
Bertl
but what is in /lib/modules/5.8.1-axiom/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ ?
11:48
julien_bxl
no serial
11:48
julien_bxl
usb / chipidea/ common/ core/ gadget/ host/ phy/ roles/ storage/
11:49
julien_bxl
i'll try a systeme update
11:51
julien_bxl
do you think it's possible to boot the iso from an RPI5 to be able to dig aroud without the axiom itself
11:52
Bertl
boot it where?
11:53
julien_bxl
the iso on a rpi
11:53
Bertl
what is 'the iso' ?
11:53
julien_bxl
the axiom img
11:53
Bertl
you can't boot that on an rpi
11:55
Bertl
but you can boot it on a MicroZed without the rest of the camera around it
11:55
julien_bxl
sure but we don;t want to unbuild the camera
11:56
Bertl
what I meant was, you can get a serparate MicroZed
12:03
max_bxl
I have dowloaded and installed the Unstable Developpment Snapshot 97 from https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/axiom-firmware/releases/tag/nightly%2F5cf3fc64 I don't know if there's anything newer ?
12:06
max_bxl
concerning the MicroZed, it could be a good thing that we have a separate one indeed, do you have one to spare or bulk prices ? but being able to boot axiom ISO on RPi would be nice, because we already have them !
12:09
Bertl
well, different architecture (the rpi) so it needs separate/other boot loader and kernel/modules
12:09
Bertl
and yes, we can arrange something with a MicroZed
12:10
max_bxl
cool !
12:10
max_bxl
thx
12:11
max_bxl
you confirm that snapshot 97 is the latest one ?
12:13
Bertl
I have no idea, please check with anuejn or vup
12:14
Bertl
but as I said, I'm currently busy, we have to move stuff around here ... but we can certainly check/do stuff on the weekend
12:20
anuejn
max_bxl: yup, seems to be
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max_bxl
anuejn: then how it comes that bertl and I don't have the same kernel ? :/
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max_bxl
bye everyone !
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19:41
se6astian
Kodak just released their new Super 8 camera that they announced in 2018
19:41
se6astian
its just 5500$