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| 07:03 | PhilCee | Mlrning Folks..
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| 07:03 | PhilCee | *Moring ;)
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| 08:18 | se6astian | good morning
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| 08:32 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 09:10 | Legendin | G'day folks!
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| 09:11 | Bertl | hello Legendin!
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| 11:59 | surami | hey!
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| 12:02 | surami | folks, i thought something
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| 12:03 | surami | i think, the developing process could be more visualized for the people
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| 12:04 | surami | just simple, as eg. the PGF/TikZ from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept-_and_mind-mapping_software#Free_Software.2FOpen_Source
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| 12:14 | surami | i don't know that system, that how it works, but the circles should be colorized: green (done), orange (in progress), red (only in mind or something so)
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| 12:15 | surami | and there could be the T# from the http://lab.apertus.org/
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| 12:15 | surami | so people could read the things there
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| 12:29 | davidak | do you mean something like Kanban?
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| 12:29 | davidak | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_(development)
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| 12:29 | davidak | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board
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| 12:30 | davidak | that helps to focus on one task and not doing 1000 things at once
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| 12:31 | davidak | also planning in team
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| 12:33 | davidak | there are Kanban Boards in Phabricator, but beta
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| 12:33 | davidak | http://phabricator.org/upcoming/
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| 12:38 | surami | something like that, but i think it would be nice to visualize the connections between the tasks
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| 12:38 | surami | look at that, what i mentioned
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| 12:40 | davidak | we using JIRA in our company, there we can link tickets with status "requires", "diplicates", "relates to" etc
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| 12:41 | davidak | maybe Phabricator has something like that
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| 12:41 | davidak | i haven't used it yet
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| 12:42 | surami | i don't either of them, so...
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| 12:43 | surami | but i just think on the main tasks not all of them
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| 12:43 | surami | to follow the project a bit
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| 12:47 | davidak | frequent blogposts about the progress would be good for that
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| 12:50 | surami | that would be also good
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| 12:53 | surami | http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/computer-science-mindmap/
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| 12:54 | surami | i think something like this
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| 12:54 | davidak | what should get displayed there?
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| 12:54 | surami | main tasks maybe...
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| 12:56 | davidak | so someone must decide what is a main task
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| 12:56 | davidak | and it not displays the progress on one task
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| 12:58 | davidak | there team has several members, so one could be a "product manager" and coordinates tickets, so other can concentrate on getting work done
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| 12:58 | davidak | and this person has a good overview about the status of the project and can write blogposts when major milestones are reached
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| 12:58 | surami | i think they have already organized this
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| 12:58 | surami | that who is who
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| 12:59 | surami | just people should be informed
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| 12:59 | surami | about the project
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| 12:59 | surami | and if it is visulaized, then it's more understandable for people
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| 13:00 | surami | there where the project is at the moment
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| 13:01 | surami | that circle stuffs generated PDF
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| 13:01 | surami | maybe has an option to linke to the blogpost or to the lab site for more information
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| 13:02 | surami | or to the wiki or i don't know
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| 13:04 | surami | with colors you can sign the state of the progress
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| 13:14 | se6astian | I agree we should find ways to involve the community more in the progress/development
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| 13:15 | se6astian | one idea to do so is to create live broadcast community meetings
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| 13:15 | se6astian | http://lab.apertus.org/T6
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| 13:18 | surami | what about WebRTC?
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| 13:18 | surami | and a chat channel?
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| 13:18 | surami | or irc?
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| 13:18 | surami | side by side
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| 13:20 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 13:21 | surami | https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/broadcast/
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| 13:26 | PhilCee | Hey all..
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| 13:28 | surami | hi Bertl
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| 13:28 | surami | hi PhilCee
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| 13:35 | surami | that webrtc experiment combined with the http://www.asterisk.org/get-started
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| 13:35 | surami | maybe could be an option for broadcast
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| 13:36 | surami | read the last post here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20056683/webrtc-multicast-one-to-many
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| 13:39 | PhilCee | Hey surami
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| 13:48 | se6astian | surami: yes we would create a dedicated website that embedds the live video stream, IRC live chat and probably some more communication channels as well
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| 13:49 | Bertl | there are a number of RTC solutions, but it requires a powerful connection if you have many folks listening in
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| 13:51 | Bertl | if some kind of slide-style presentation with audio and IRC chat would suffice then I'd definitely go for a web solution
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| 14:02 | surami | Bertl: yes, that's why i linked that asterix and i just found a screen sharing tool too
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| 14:02 | surami | https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/Pluginfree-Screen-Sharing/
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| 14:02 | surami | i'm off now, ciao
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| 15:17 | daFred | Hi, what do you think about renaming the "Dictator" to "Governor"?
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| 15:19 | Bertl | Arnold anyone? :)
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| 15:19 | daFred | ok Governator :)
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| 15:20 | PhilCee | Hi fred..
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| 15:20 | Bertl | daFred: sounds good to me, but you have to convince se6astian
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| 15:20 | daFred | Yes, Arnold would be fine too!
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| 15:21 | daFred | *Arnold
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| 15:22 | daFred | Hi PhilCee
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| 15:22 | PhilCee | Governator? I'd prefer a female name, like the old fishers in "the old man and the sea" give the sea a female name to make a thing that they can love instead of fighting with it ;)
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| 15:23 | daFred | Whats the female version of Arnold???
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| 15:23 | PhilCee | But i was fine and attracted by dictator as well .
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| 15:23 | Bertl | I'd prefer that too, but it's probably problematic if you keep touching it all the time :)
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| 15:24 | daFred | we should also change the shape then
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| 15:24 | PhilCee | ^^ bertl.. in fact it was the only dictator that ever seemed attractive to me ;)
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| 15:26 | daFred | oh i found a woman called Arnoldine Wolf!
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| 15:27 | Bertl | congrats! :)
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| 15:29 | daFred | are you waiting for the next supporter too? (200k)
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| 15:29 | Bertl | are we that close? haven't checked recently
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| 15:30 | Bertl | ah yes, one to go
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| 16:01 | se6astian | I think dictators as brands are totally underrated
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| 16:01 | se6astian | see: https://twitter.com/20min/status/524808179855937536/photo/1
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| 16:02 | se6astian | what do you guys think of these sticker designs for perk holders:
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| 16:02 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/sticker1.jpg
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| 16:02 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/sticker2.jpg
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| 16:03 | se6astian | "Governator" might actually be a great choice :)
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| 16:03 | se6astian | everyone knows who we mean, and everyone knows he is from Austria
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| 16:04 | se6astian | "AXIOM Governator" sounds pretty solid :)
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| 16:04 | daFred | and Arnoldine?
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| 16:09 | Legendin | se6astian: sticker2.jpg: I like it as a whole, but the oval shape within the sensor rectangle throws me off a bit
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| 16:11 | Legendin | The first sticker is clean and simple, the logo looks great on black. Not sure if I'm a big fan of the curved url, would like to see a version with it in smaller type centered underneath the logo
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| 16:12 | daFred | sticker1 is fine, maybe less hidden lines in sticker2
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| 16:13 | Legendin | in sticker2 the curved url is motivated by the orange edge, so no objections there
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| 16:18 | se6astian | €200,024EUR!!!
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| 16:18 | Bertl | \o/
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| 16:18 | Bertl | who would have thought this in the middle of the campaign :)
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| 16:19 | Legendin | sheee-it! Congrats!
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| 16:19 | se6astian | lol
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| 16:20 | daFred | in the middle not even the half, now the double :))
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| 16:20 | se6astian | daFred: Arnoldine -> Ovomaltine :)
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| 16:20 | daFred | :)
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| 16:21 | daFred | just add milk..
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| 17:06 | se6astian | http://lab.apertus.org/V3
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| 17:10 | alexML | dictator? I thought it's some sort of a voice recorder :P
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| 17:11 | se6astian | :)
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| 17:11 | se6astian | again not the impression we would like to make :)
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| 17:11 | alexML | "dictate: to speak or read (something) to a person who writes it down or to a machine that records it"
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| 17:17 | intracube | dictator has some connotations: https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1039&q=famous+dictators
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| 17:24 | intracube | :P
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| 17:42 | intracube | but not necessarily a bad name
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| 17:49 | __anton__ | c'on, 'dictator' is a cool name. Could it be unofficial? Official could be boring like a 'wired remote' or 'unit-d'
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| 17:51 | __anton__ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_dictators
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| 18:57 | se6astian | latest sticker design revisions:
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| 18:57 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker1.jpg
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| 18:57 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker2.jpg
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| 18:57 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker3.jpg
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| 18:57 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker4.jpg
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| 18:57 | se6astian | better?
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| 19:10 | alexML | we should pick one? I vote for 4
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| 19:10 | se6astian | 1 or 2 and 3 or 4 I guess
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| 19:12 | daFred | my joice would be b_sticker4 and sticker1
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| 19:13 | alexML | warning: suggest parentheses around && within || (not sure how to interpret "1 or 2 and 3 or 4")
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| 19:14 | daFred | *choice :)
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| 19:15 | se6astian | you know the story of the child with a programmer mindset that is sent to buy milk by his mother? :)
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| 19:19 | Legendin | Tell the story!
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| 19:24 | Legendin | I like b_sticker1 and b_sticker4, so those would be my picks
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| 19:25 | Legendin | though to be picky, maybe the url in b_sticker1 could be a bit higher up, like so: http://crnic.no/axiom_stickers/b_sticker1_LA.jpg
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| 19:25 | Legendin | And who needs those www-s anyway? http://crnic.no/axiom_stickers/b_sticker1_LB.jpg
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| 19:26 | Legendin | Those are my 0.05€
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| 19:27 | intracube | 1 & 4 gets my vote fwiw :)
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| 19:27 | Bertl | off for a nap ... bbl
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| 19:28 | se6astian | thanks for the sticker feedback
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| 19:28 | se6astian | the story of the programmer kid is
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| 19:28 | se6astian | his mother asks him to go to the supermarket
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| 19:28 | se6astian | and buy "bread and milk if they have any"
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| 19:29 | se6astian | so he returns home without anything and says
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| 19:29 | se6astian | "they didnt have milk"
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| 19:29 | Legendin | hehe :p
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| 19:29 | Legendin | never heard that one
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| 19:29 | se6astian | its not that spectacular :)
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| 19:30 | intracube | or the programmer parents
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| 19:31 | intracube | kid asks if his mum or dad will pick him up after school
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| 19:31 | intracube | both mum and dad turn up in the car
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| 19:32 | intracube | should've asked for XOR
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| 19:32 | se6astian | :)
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| 19:32 | intracube | which is basically.. the same joke. anyways :)
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| 19:34 | Legendin | hirrr
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| 19:35 | Legendin | evening derailed by sudden goodle search for programming jokes....
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| 19:35 | Legendin | google*
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| 19:44 | andrew_levine | I vote for sticker #1 and #4.
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| 19:45 | andrew_levine | And I would stick with "dictator".
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| 19:50 | andrew_levine | bb
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| 20:50 | se6astian | hey guys!
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| 20:50 | philippej | hi everone !
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| 20:51 | philippej | 2 hours later, I'd vote for http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker1.jpg
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| 20:51 | philippej | but maybe you can make multiple versions
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| 20:53 | philippej | davidak, surami there are already Kanban board in the phabricator install. What they list as "beta" is enabled on our install. Didn't dig it already
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| 20:54 | philippej | see for example : http://lab.apertus.org/project/board/8/
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| 20:55 | se6astian | we will print 1 and 4
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| 20:58 | se6astian | that phabricator sends one email for every task that has been moved to another workboard is a bit annoying tbh
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| 21:33 | philippej | agreed, but you can change that in your profile settings
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| 21:34 | se6astian | let me check
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| 21:35 | philippej | or at least that how it's supposed to work, but it is a bit confusing
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| 21:35 | philippej | time for bed :-)
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| 21:35 | philippej | see you !
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| 21:36 | se6astian | I cant find it
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| 21:36 | se6astian | well...
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| 21:36 | se6astian | too late :)
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| 21:36 | se6astian | but I should head to bed too
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| 21:36 | se6astian | good night
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