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2014/10/23

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PhilCee
Mlrning Folks..
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PhilCee
*Moring ;)
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Argh.. too early.
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davidak
good morning
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good morning
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Bertl
morning folks!
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se6astian
hi there
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Legendin
G'day folks!
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Bertl
hello Legendin!
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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surami
hey!
13:02
surami
folks, i thought something
13:03
surami
i think, the developing process could be more visualized for the people
13:04
surami
just simple, as eg. the PGF/TikZ from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concept-_and_mind-mapping_software#Free_Software.2FOpen_Source
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surami
i don't know that system, that how it works, but the circles should be colorized: green (done), orange (in progress), red (only in mind or something so)
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surami
and there could be the T# from the http://lab.apertus.org/
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surami
so people could read the things there
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davidak
do you mean something like Kanban?
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davidak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_(development)
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davidak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanban_board
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davidak
that helps to focus on one task and not doing 1000 things at once
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davidak
also planning in team
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davidak
there are Kanban Boards in Phabricator, but beta
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davidak
http://phabricator.org/upcoming/
13:38
surami
something like that, but i think it would be nice to visualize the connections between the tasks
13:38
surami
look at that, what i mentioned
13:40
davidak
we using JIRA in our company, there we can link tickets with status "requires", "diplicates", "relates to" etc
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davidak
maybe Phabricator has something like that
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davidak
i haven't used it yet
13:42
surami
i don't either of them, so...
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surami
but i just think on the main tasks not all of them
13:43
surami
to follow the project a bit
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davidak
frequent blogposts about the progress would be good for that
13:50
surami
that would be also good
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surami
http://www.texample.net/tikz/examples/computer-science-mindmap/
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surami
i think something like this
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davidak
what should get displayed there?
13:54
surami
main tasks maybe...
13:56
davidak
so someone must decide what is a main task
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davidak
and it not displays the progress on one task
13:58
davidak
there team has several members, so one could be a "product manager" and coordinates tickets, so other can concentrate on getting work done
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davidak
and this person has a good overview about the status of the project and can write blogposts when major milestones are reached
13:58
surami
i think they have already organized this
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surami
that who is who
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surami
just people should be informed
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surami
about the project
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surami
and if it is visulaized, then it's more understandable for people
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surami
there where the project is at the moment
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surami
that circle stuffs generated PDF
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surami
maybe has an option to linke to the blogpost or to the lab site for more information
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surami
or to the wiki or i don't know
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surami
with colors you can sign the state of the progress
14:14
se6astian
I agree we should find ways to involve the community more in the progress/development
14:15
se6astian
one idea to do so is to create live broadcast community meetings
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se6astian
http://lab.apertus.org/T6
14:18
surami
what about WebRTC?
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surami
and a chat channel?
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surami
or irc?
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surami
side by side
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Bertl_oO
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Bertl
back now ...
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surami
https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/broadcast/
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PhilCee
Hey all..
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surami
hi Bertl
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surami
hi PhilCee
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surami
that webrtc experiment combined with the http://www.asterisk.org/get-started
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surami
maybe could be an option for broadcast
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surami
read the last post here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20056683/webrtc-multicast-one-to-many
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PhilCee
Hey surami
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se6astian
surami: yes we would create a dedicated website that embedds the live video stream, IRC live chat and probably some more communication channels as well
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Bertl
there are a number of RTC solutions, but it requires a powerful connection if you have many folks listening in
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Bertl
if some kind of slide-style presentation with audio and IRC chat would suffice then I'd definitely go for a web solution
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surami
Bertl: yes, that's why i linked that asterix and i just found a screen sharing tool too
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surami
https://www.webrtc-experiment.com/Pluginfree-Screen-Sharing/
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surami
i'm off now, ciao
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se6astian
bbl
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Bertl
welcome quueniep!
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daFred
Hi, what do you think about renaming the "Dictator" to "Governor"?
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Bertl
Arnold anyone? :)
16:19
daFred
ok Governator :)
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PhilCee
Hi fred..
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Bertl
daFred: sounds good to me, but you have to convince se6astian
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daFred
Yes, Arnold would be fine too!
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daFred
*Arnold
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daFred
Hi PhilCee
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PhilCee
Governator? I'd prefer a female name, like the old fishers in "the old man and the sea" give the sea a female name to make a thing that they can love instead of fighting with it ;)
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daFred
Whats the female version of Arnold???
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PhilCee
But i was fine and attracted by dictator as well .
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Bertl
I'd prefer that too, but it's probably problematic if you keep touching it all the time :)
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daFred
we should also change the shape then
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PhilCee
^^ bertl.. in fact it was the only dictator that ever seemed attractive to me ;)
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daFred
oh i found a woman called Arnoldine Wolf!
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Bertl
congrats! :)
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daFred
are you waiting for the next supporter too? (200k)
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Bertl
are we that close? haven't checked recently
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Bertl
ah yes, one to go
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se6astian
I think dictators as brands are totally underrated
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se6astian
see: https://twitter.com/20min/status/524808179855937536/photo/1
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se6astian
what do you guys think of these sticker designs for perk holders:
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se6astian
http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/sticker1.jpg
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se6astian
http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/sticker2.jpg
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se6astian
"Governator" might actually be a great choice :)
17:03
se6astian
everyone knows who we mean, and everyone knows he is from Austria
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se6astian
"AXIOM Governator" sounds pretty solid :)
17:04
daFred
and Arnoldine?
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Legendin
se6astian: sticker2.jpg: I like it as a whole, but the oval shape within the sensor rectangle throws me off a bit
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Legendin
The first sticker is clean and simple, the logo looks great on black. Not sure if I'm a big fan of the curved url, would like to see a version with it in smaller type centered underneath the logo
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daFred
sticker1 is fine, maybe less hidden lines in sticker2
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Legendin
in sticker2 the curved url is motivated by the orange edge, so no objections there
17:18
se6astian
â¬200,024EUR!!!
17:18
Bertl
\o/
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Bertl
who would have thought this in the middle of the campaign :)
17:19
Legendin
sheee-it! Congrats!
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se6astian
lol
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daFred
in the middle not even the half, now the double :))
17:20
se6astian
daFred: Arnoldine -> Ovomaltine :)
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daFred
:)
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daFred
just add milk..
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se6astian
http://lab.apertus.org/V3
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alexML
dictator? I thought it's some sort of a voice recorder :P
18:11
se6astian
:)
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se6astian
again not the impression we would like to make :)
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alexML
"dictate: to speak or read (something) to a person who writes it down or to a machine that records it"
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intracube
dictator has some connotations: https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=1039&q=famous+dictators
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intracube
:P
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intracube
but not necessarily a bad name
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__anton__
c'on, 'dictator' is a cool name. Could it be unofficial? Official could be boring like a 'wired remote' or 'unit-d'
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__anton__
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_dictators
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se6astian
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se6astian
latest sticker design revisions:
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se6astian
http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker1.jpg
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se6astian
http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker2.jpg
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se6astian
http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker3.jpg
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se6astian
http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker4.jpg
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se6astian
better?
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alexML
we should pick one? I vote for 4
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se6astian
1 or 2 and 3 or 4 I guess
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daFred
my joice would be b_sticker4 and sticker1
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alexML
warning: suggest parentheses around && within || (not sure how to interpret "1 or 2 and 3 or 4")
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daFred
*choice :)
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se6astian
you know the story of the child with a programmer mindset that is sent to buy milk by his mother? :)
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Legendin
Tell the story!
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Legendin
I like b_sticker1 and b_sticker4, so those would be my picks
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Legendin
though to be picky, maybe the url in b_sticker1 could be a bit higher up, like so: http://crnic.no/axiom_stickers/b_sticker1_LA.jpg
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Legendin
And who needs those www-s anyway? http://crnic.no/axiom_stickers/b_sticker1_LB.jpg
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Legendin
Those are my 0.05â¬
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intracube
1 & 4 gets my vote fwiw :)
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Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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Bertl
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se6astian
thanks for the sticker feedback
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se6astian
the story of the programmer kid is
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se6astian
his mother asks him to go to the supermarket
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se6astian
and buy "bread and milk if they have any"
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se6astian
so he returns home without anything and says
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se6astian
"they didnt have milk"
20:29
Legendin
hehe :p
20:29
Legendin
never heard that one
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se6astian
its not that spectacular :)
20:30
intracube
or the programmer parents
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intracube
kid asks if his mum or dad will pick him up after school
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intracube
both mum and dad turn up in the car
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intracube
should've asked for XOR
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se6astian
:)
20:32
intracube
which is basically.. the same joke. anyways :)
20:34
Legendin
hirrr
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Legendin
evening derailed by sudden goodle search for programming jokes....
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Legendin
google*
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andrew_levine
I vote for sticker #1 and #4.
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andrew_levine
And I would stick with "dictator".
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andrew_levine
bb
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se6astian
hey guys!
21:50
philippej
hi everone !
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philippej
2 hours later, I'd vote for http://files.apertus.org/stickers_eps/revb/b_sticker1.jpg
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philippej
but maybe you can make multiple versions
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philippej
davidak, surami there are already Kanban board in the phabricator install. What they list as "beta" is enabled on our install. Didn't dig it already
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philippej
see for example : http://lab.apertus.org/project/board/8/
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se6astian
we will print 1 and 4
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se6astian
that phabricator sends one email for every task that has been moved to another workboard is a bit annoying tbh
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philippej
agreed, but you can change that in your profile settings
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se6astian
let me check
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philippej
or at least that how it's supposed to work, but it is a bit confusing
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philippej
time for bed :-)
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philippej
see you !
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se6astian
I cant find it
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se6astian
well...
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se6astian
too late :)
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se6astian
but I should head to bed too
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se6astian
good night
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