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| 03:37 | rassu_12[m] | <BAndiT1983 "rassu_12: why do you need virtua"> because docker desktop required that
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| 03:38 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 05:15 | BAndiT1983 | rassu_12[m]: i know that it's required etc., but do you need docker for challenge task?
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| 05:17 | BAndiT1983 | a couple of days ago a friend of mine has finally installed linux (manjaro) in parallel to windows, as he was complaining about problems of getting OpenShift and docker running in parallel, one of them wanted Hyper-V and the other required VirtualBox, which collides with Hyper-V, also virtual network switch just killed the network connection etc.
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| 05:18 | BAndiT1983 | have shown him how to install properly, e.g. partitioning and some tips regarding setting up rootless docker, after a short time received a photo of his desktop with OpenShift up and running, maybe you should also consider to dual-boot to linux instead
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| 05:19 | BAndiT1983 | but for our tasks no docker is required usually (was added for the convenience in first place), as we use windows less, the build has to be adjusted for it
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| 05:20 | BAndiT1983 | will install MSVC++ in the evening today, when at my desktop, where windows is present, so i can check what's the trouble with building visualiser
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| 06:42 | se6ast1an | good day
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| 06:42 | BAndiT1983 | hi
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| 06:47 | se6ast1an | great to see so much activity here :)
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| 09:39 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 10:34 | rassu_12[m] | i am not getting what ProcessBytes does, i searched that on internet but got results something related to SSH protocol ,
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| | 10:38 | BAndiT1983 | why do you search for that on the internet when the source code is right there?
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| 10:38 | BAndiT1983 | SSH? on the pic32? that would be a miracle
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| 10:39 | Bertl | dropbear?
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| 10:41 | BAndiT1983 | could work
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| 10:54 | rassu_12[m] | <BAndiT1983 "why do you search for that on th"> sorry, but still i haven't the function of ProcessBytes
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| 10:55 | BAndiT1983 | interesting, but i see it actually see it in your screenshot, you just have to look more thoroughly
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| 10:55 | BAndiT1983 | *but i actually see it
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| 10:58 | rassu_12[m] | <BAndiT1983 "interesting, but i see it actual"> can you give me a hint where i can find the function of Processbytes , as i can't find that in any of .h included files..
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| 10:59 | BAndiT1983 | look at your screenshot, maybe you will get the idea, can't give more hints than that
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| 11:39 | markusengsner | BANdiT1983: So I was looking at the utils functions, and I was wondering about the need for declaring them static?
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| 11:41 | Bertl | rassu_12[m]: part of the challenge tasks is that you 'figure out things on your own'
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| 11:41 | markusengsner | afaict it doesn't do anything more than declaring them as just inline, other than forcing the compiler to generate additional versions of the function when it chooses not to inline them
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| 11:41 | BAndiT1983 | markusengsner: haven't looked at them for quite some time, can be changed if it's not correct
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| 11:42 | Bertl | static inline is like macros and the compiler is free to decide how to handle them
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| 11:42 | markusengsner | BAndit1983: I tried just removing 'static' from them, and the only effect was that the executable shrunk by 4kb or so
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| 11:43 | BAndiT1983 | great! then you have a plan there ;)
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| 11:43 | Bertl | I wouldn't do that, I would look at the compiler options first
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| 11:44 | Bertl | i.e. 4kb more code usage means that the compiler decides to go for speed/convenience instead of code size
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| 11:44 | BAndiT1983 | inline should be sufficient
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| 11:45 | markusengsner | Bertl: I'm mostly confused about what effect `static inline` has compared to just `inline`
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| 11:45 | markusengsner | shouldn't just inlining allow the compiler to inline the function too?
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| 11:46 | BAndiT1983 | https://www.microchip.com/forums/m922244.aspx
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| 11:47 | Bertl | of course 'just' inline allows to inline the function, that's the purpose
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| 11:48 | Bertl | static inline limits the scope to the current unit
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| 11:49 | Bertl | so, if the compiler decides to go for a non inlined version, there might be several copies of those
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| 11:51 | markusengsner | Bertl: yeah that was my thinking, and since the utils functions are called from multiple different units, I thought it would be better to omit `static`
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| 11:52 | Bertl | well, depends, in case all functions get inlined, you are left with a dummy
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| 11:54 | markusengsner | oh okay now I see, I hadn't considered that
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| 11:56 | Bertl | it still might make sense to do that though, depending on the desired compiler options
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| 11:56 | Bertl | it also has some implications during include, i.e. 'normal' inline defined functions should complain if included twice
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| 11:57 | Bertl | the static inline will not complain as long as the definition is the same :)
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| 11:57 | markusengsner | is that an advantage? :)
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| 12:03 | Bertl | it can be :)
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| 12:43 | BAndiT1983 | markusengsner: you can inspect the resulting ELF file with radare2/cutter, there you can see if it placed it correctly
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| 12:46 | BAndiT1983 | and through X-ref search there one can see where the calls to the function are
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| 13:06 | markusengsner | BAndiT1983: I checked a couple of spots now in the ELF file with Cutter
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| 13:06 | markusengsner | and I haven't found a single actual inlining
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| 13:06 | markusengsner | when `static inline`, it just calls a local version of the function instead
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| 13:09 | Bertl | means that with the current options, the compiler sees no reason for inlining the code and if those options are what we want, then removing the static might be a good choice
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| 20:16 | Bertl_oO | nn
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