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| 00:56 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 01:14 | derWalter | hey Bertl, there are two different ways of bridging. one way is logging into matrix (www.riot.im) and directly joining the #apertus channel on irc freenode, this way you will only see the users in the channel once they have written something, the other way is to open an #apertus channel on the matrix network and bridge it with the #apertus irc channel on the freenode network, this way all users are synced, the irc users
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| 01:14 | derWalter | can see the matrix users and the matrix users can see all the irc users.
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| 06:12 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 06:13 | Bertl | derWalter: so why would that second way of bridging require channel op priviledges?
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| 08:03 | Bertl | good morning se6astian!
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| 08:05 | se6astian | hello!
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| 11:19 | derWalter | @Bert: Bridging must be authorised by a channel operator on the IRC side.
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| 11:19 | derWalter | PROVIDING A CHANNEL WILL CAUSE A BOT TO JOIN THAT CHANNEL.
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| 11:22 | derWalter | So there needs to be a Chanop in the Channel and I guess the bot then querries the Chanop for the okay to join and bridge, which the chanop then autorizes and then its done.
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| 11:51 | ChanServ | | 11:51 | se6astian | op now
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| 11:51 | se6astian | whats next derWalter?
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| 12:00 | se6astian[m] | dejavue
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| 12:03 | derWalter | ok, just a second
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| 12:05 | se6astian | hmm, I didnt get anything
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| 12:05 | derWalter | now you should have gotten it
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| 12:05 | se6astian | now yes
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| 12:05 | se6astian | done
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| 12:06 | derWalter | wohoo
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| 12:06 | se6astian[m] | so whats different now?
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| 12:06 | derWalter | there is a channel on the matrix network, called apertus, which is bridged with the irc channel on freenode
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| 12:07 | derWalter | everything which gets posted on one network is also posted on the other one
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| 12:07 | se6astian[m] | ah so I actually need to join another room
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| 12:07 | se6astian[m] | let me try
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| 12:08 | derWalter | matrix offers integrations, bots and bridges, for instance, you can log into matrix, i can give you op there and you can link the github page to the matrix channel. there is also a twitter integration, so when a tiwtterpost is made, its caption is posted with a link, directly into the channel (offline right now, they are working on some fixes)
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| 12:12 | se6astian | does it make a difference in riot if you join #apertus on freenode or #apertus on matrix?
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| 12:12 | derWalter | maybe there is something for the lab coming up, so if someone opens a new task, its posted to the channel, but i have not seen something for the lab, but i guess its easy, if we would have rss on the website, we could use the rss bot/bridge, so when a new teamtalk or newspost is published, its automatically posted here. the matrix network itself features a lot of features which are not available in irc itself, like e2e
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| 12:12 | derWalter | encrypted chatting, channel history on join (!) (so no need for bnc, or irc logs, but irc logs are very convinient, as its not just a big stream) if you drag and drop a picture, sound or video file it gets automatically uploaded and viewed inline in the chat stream and so on
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| 12:13 | se6astian[m] | phabricator has its own irc bot, we disabled it after a while because it became too annoying
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| 12:13 | derWalter | uploaded an image: autobahnkreuz-171093.jpg (593KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/mQWHCwDxgKqbsCbWCWcuewwG
| | 12:13 | derWalter | it is like slack, but open source, free and so forth ;)
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| 12:14 | derWalter | it also has clients for android, ios, windows, osx and ofc linux
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| 12:15 | se6astian | the sync is quite slow
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| 12:15 | derWalter | i e.g. use it as skype replacement for my distance relationship ;)
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| 12:15 | se6astian[m] | and the member list being incomplete in riot isnt fixed by the bridging?
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| 12:15 | se6astian | can take a minute for messages to appear here...
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| 12:16 | derWalter | i guess the members have to interact once with the channel
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| 12:16 | se6astian | sending matrix message now:
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| 12:16 | derWalter | you can auth with freenode by msg nickserv
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| 12:16 | se6astian[m] | ok
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| 12:16 | se6astian[m] | now
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| 12:16 | se6astian | 16 seconds...
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| 12:17 | derWalter | rly? i had some querry chats yesterday trough matrix to irc, which where quite fluent
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| 12:18 | se6astian | with this delay the order of messages also gets mixed up
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| 12:18 | se6astian[m] | 1.
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| 12:18 | se6astian | 2.
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| 12:18 | se6astian | 3.
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| 12:18 | se6astian[m] | 4
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| 12:18 | se6astian | 5.
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| 12:18 | se6astian | now its quicker
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| 12:18 | se6astian | maybe network issues before
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| 12:23 | RexOrCine[m] | Test
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| 12:24 | RexO | Test
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| 12:24 | RexOrCine[m] | From my side message inputs are immediate on both channels.
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| 12:24 | derWalter | so i can leave now :)
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| 12:25 | derWalter | btw, why was the phab irc bot to anoying?
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| 12:27 | se6astian | because it posted here with every activity in lab
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| 12:27 | RexO | Two things I like about it - Images show in the Riot stream, and I get push notes.
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| 12:27 | RexO | Although it doesn't post audio into the main channel, which is a shame.
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| 12:28 | RexOrCine[m] | People.m4a
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| 12:30 | RexO | it also downloads an audio file to your device every time you play it which is a bit annoying.
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| 12:32 | derWalter | it re-dowloads everytime you play it? which os? or are you using the online version (https://riot.im/app)?
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| 12:32 | RexO | It lists all media files under a tab which is handy.
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| 12:33 | derWalter | yes and it also lists the mentions, which is also handy when there is a lot of chat and you have been away for some days or so...
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| 12:33 | RexO | derWalter nah I'm on the mobile app.
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| 12:34 | RexO | RexOrCine Test
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| 12:34 | derWalter | rex, join the #apertus channel on matrix then :D
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| 12:35 | derWalter | you are connected directly to the irc channel trough the matrix network over the irc bridge, so you are using riot over matrix as an irc client, if you join the channel directly this behavoir will stop
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| 12:35 | RexO | I thought Matrix and Riot were the same thing?
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| 12:35 | derWalter | matrix is the network and riot is one of many, but THE, client for it
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| 12:36 | derWalter | there are nearly 30 clients out for matrix
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| 12:36 | derWalter | 7 servers
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| 12:37 | derWalter | and 28 app (bridges and integrations)
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| 12:38 | derWalter | oh... i see there is an other grid with integrations 6x7 wide :P ... minecraft bridge some one :)?
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| 12:40 | derWalter | yepee, so i dont have to use the irc logs anymore or configure an irc client :) thx se6astian
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| 12:40 | se6astian[m] | np
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| 12:48 | derWalter | do we have a logo which can be used as an icon? the apertus font logo becomes a grey bar at such low resolutions... somethink like an black A or an orange O or somehing like that?
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| 12:48 | derWalter | and how to edit the wiki? (https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/Social)
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| 12:50 | se6astian[m] | apertus.org/logo
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| 12:52 | derWalter | i know, thats what i am using, it becomes a grey bar, due to the low resolution for icons.
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| 12:55 | RexOrCine[m] | You'd probably have to resize it. I might have one hold up.
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| | 12:56 | RexO | Ooh, now that message took a minute or two to show up.
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| 13:11 | RexO | Two things I'd like you to look at se6astian (have done for some time but there's a lot going on)
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| 13:12 | RexO | 1. https://medium.com/@Gargron/two-reasons-why-organizations-should-switch-to-self-hosting-social-media-9a1bbac45b69#.xqlm68149
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| 13:12 | RexO | 2. https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/docs/Running-Mastodon/Production-guide.md
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| 13:13 | RexO | We're there of course - https://mastodon.social/@apertus
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| 13:13 | RexO | (that stuff got a bit too technical for me)
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| 13:34 | se6astian | interesting
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| 13:34 | derWalter | so, i did some kind of logo for the channel @riot :P
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| 13:34 | se6astian | I agree and follow the "full control" aspect
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| 13:36 | se6astian | but for me it boils down to a network that you control without audience vs a network you cannot control which huge audience ...
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| 13:36 | derWalter | well, if there is a twitter from mastogon, so it reposts everything on twitter..?
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| 13:47 | derWalter | test, can you guys from irc download this file?
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| 13:47 | derWalter | posted a file: Sortenpass_ELEMENT_BIO.pdf (157KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NpAgxTyBvmxluCXiCKtmlZVr
| | 13:51 | se6astian | yes
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| 13:51 | derWalter | yes, it worx as i see in the irc logs :)
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| 14:11 | RexO | derWalter. No. Unless Mastodon was catered for in things like Hootsuite (which I don't like), and which undoubtedly won't happen, that wouldn't happen. They're separate entities.
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| 14:13 | RexO | se6astian is right, it's big network vs small network. We presently use FB, but I don't approve really. I'm more inclined to vote with our feet... which there are levels too. I'm in favour of the use of Twitter, just, but I want to encourage people away from it.
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| 14:13 | RexO | levels to*
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| 14:14 | RexO | In terms of credibility Twitter is a lot less dirty than FB... which is the dirtiest of all platforms really.
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| 14:17 | RexO | Another point with Mastodon is that it's demographic is partially suited to what we're doing. Which is a bigger issue than someone might at first think, in that, our key demographic are film makers, however, film makers typically don't involve themselves with coding or making. AXIOM is poised betwixt demographics, much like Mastodon.
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| 14:19 | RexO | I think Mastodon is quite a tightly knit community at present, because many of it's users have migrated over from Quitter, a Twitter clone that was probably never gonna become popular on account of its name, but it is growing.
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| 14:20 | RexO | Mastodon I mean.
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| 14:21 | se6astian | Id say we can check out how our mastodon account is growing over time
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| 14:22 | se6astian | and then decide if its worth the effort
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| 14:22 | RexO | Still, I generally like to pursue what's new, precisely because of the dirty nature of existing, central platforms, but I think Mastodon could be important... an that we should be there.
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| 14:23 | RexO | Are there any negatives of going 'all-in' with this server business se6astian?
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| 14:25 | se6astian | you mean hosting it on our own server?
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| 14:25 | RexO | Aye.
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| 14:26 | Bertl_oO | Mastodon is a heavy metal band :)
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| 14:26 | RexO | Apparently he likes them.
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| 14:27 | se6astian | it takes significant effort to set it up I am afraid
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| 14:27 | se6astian | plus it seems to be quite resource intensive if it does video transcoding with ffmpeg, etc.
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| 14:27 | se6astian | so if possible I would avoid it for now
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| 14:28 | RexO | Aye YT embeds hasn't been done yet I don't think.
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| 14:41 | niemand1 | if you need someone to administrate servers - I think I can help here
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| 14:42 | RexO | Oh yeah?
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| 14:53 | se6astian | niemand1: thanks, we will discuss it!
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| 14:56 | Tanos | Hello everyone!
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| 14:56 | Bertl_oO | hey Tanos!
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| 14:58 | Tanos | hey Bertl !
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| 14:59 | Tanos | @se6astian can I ask you a question about T720?
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| 14:59 | se6astian | sure!
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| 15:01 | Tanos | How can you find out which settings can use the same calibration file? Is it known or is it something that needs testing?
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| 15:07 | se6astian | it is know in some aspects
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| 15:07 | se6astian | we know that changing PLR HDR settings will require new calibrations
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| 15:07 | se6astian | we do one darkframe per gain (x1, x2, x3, x4)
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| 15:07 | se6astian | changing exposure time can use the same darkframe
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| 15:08 | se6astian | changing on-sensor offsets will likely require new darkframes
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| 15:08 | se6astian | but in general its very much work in progress and research
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| 15:09 | se6astian | Does that answer your question?
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| 15:14 | Tanos | Yes thank you.
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| 15:14 | se6astian | my pleasure
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| 15:55 | derWalter | what happens with rich text (markdown) content?
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| 15:56 | derWalter | lets quote > something
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| 15:56 | derWalter | or some code
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| 16:01 | derWalter | i wonder who this will be :P!!!
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| 18:25 | Roopal08_ | Hey BandiT1983 , I couldn't be in touch in last 10 days , as I was busy with my mid sems .
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| 18:26 | Roopal08_ | In the last discussion which I had , You asked me to get the PRocessingTest running , and display an image on it
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| 18:27 | Roopal08_ | I had few doubts regarding that.
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| 19:43 | Kshitij | Hi Bandit
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| 19:43 | BAndiT1983 | hi
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| 19:45 | Kshitij | I'm having some problems in building OC, with the qt5quickwidgets library
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| 19:45 | BAndiT1983 | what is the build error?
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| 19:46 | Kshitij | I tried through Qt and terminal both, but I'm stuck at " Not able to link CXX shared library."
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| 19:47 | Kshitij | ../lib/libQtAV.so no such file or directory
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| 19:48 | BAndiT1983 | there are many of them, which one makes a problem? could you paste the build log into pastebin?
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| 19:48 | BAndiT1983 | hm
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| 19:48 | BAndiT1983 | had this problem with another guy before
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| 19:48 | BAndiT1983 | which OS do you use?
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| 19:48 | Kshitij | I tried installing the QtAVlibrary through various sources but it's stuck
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| 19:48 | Kshitij | Ubuntu 16.04
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| 19:49 | BAndiT1983 | you should not install it, OC pulls the repo of QtAV and builds it
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| 19:50 | Kshitij | It didn't do that, so I thought of doing it manually. Didn't succeed
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| 19:51 | BAndiT1983 | installing it manually won't help you as CMake script searches for specific ones in the folder
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| 19:51 | BAndiT1983 | please paste your build log, so i can try to analyze the problem
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| 19:51 | Kshitij | okay
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| 19:55 | BAndiT1983 | Kshitij_, you should really get some irc client, it's more comfortable
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| 19:59 | Kshitij_ | http://pastebin.com/XGgPcxQn
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| 19:59 | Kshitij_ | Oh, okay i'll get one. Thanks.
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| 20:02 | BAndiT1983 | which branch have you used?
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| 20:02 | Kshitij_ | master
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| 20:02 | Kshitij_ | http://pastebin.com/gqyK2k08 - This is terminal error output when I tried building it from command line
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| 20:04 | BAndiT1983 | this output is of cmake configuration step, build looks different, but nonetheless it looks like there are libs missing
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| 20:06 | BAndiT1983 | check in the folder /home/kshitij/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake/ Qt5QuickWidgets exists
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| 20:07 | Kshitij_ | even /home/kshitij/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake does not exist
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| 20:08 | BAndiT1983 | installing qt right now, so i can guide more efficiently
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| 20:09 | BAndiT1983 | that's my path -> /home/dev/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake/Qt5QuickWidgets
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| 20:09 | BAndiT1983 | check your installation of qt, i've selected only desktop libs for x64 and qtcreator
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| 20:11 | Kshitij_ | I had tried this option before, but then I installed Qt with all it's components because it was having some problems with the internet
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| 20:12 | Kshitij_ | in the software
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| 20:12 | BAndiT1983 | i've downloaded the offline installer, as i was testing some things to get VM for OC development done, so people don't have to install the libs themself
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| 20:12 | BAndiT1983 | it works just with this 2 options usually
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| 20:15 | Kshitij_ | Okay. I'll try building it again then from the very beginning.
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| 20:16 | BAndiT1983 | you should just clear the build directory and run cmake again
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| 20:16 | BAndiT1983 | no need to start from the beginning
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| 20:20 | Kshitij_ | Okay, I'll do that. What could be the reason /home/kshitij/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake directory isn't there?
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| 20:21 | BAndiT1983 | install failed somewhere, jsut download the full installer down, this should prevent problems when internet connection breaks down
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| 20:23 | Kshitij_ | I downloaded the offline installer. It didn't install when I did it in the terminal. But it was fine when I installed it using GUI
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| 20:24 | BAndiT1983 | what do you mean by installing in terminal? the installer starts a wizard usually
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| 20:26 | Kshitij_ | Yes, of course. But when I ran ./qt-opensource-linux-x64-5.8.0.run It gave an error that the setup file was broken
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| 20:26 | BAndiT1983 | seems like it's really broken
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| 20:26 | Kshitij_ | It was fine when I double clicked and the wizard started like no problem
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| 20:28 | BAndiT1983 | it should also start from terminal, it's the usual way i do it, as it requires chmod +x when you start it first time
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| 20:29 | Kshitij_ | Okay, then I'll try and Install Qt again. Sorry to bug you on such a small problem, I was really stuck there. Let's hope I'm able to build now. Thanks.
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| 20:30 | BAndiT1983 | no problem here, it's a good way to find errors in build instructions or with different versions of libs
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| 20:31 | Kshitij_ | Thanks again.
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| 22:11 | se6astian | good night
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