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#apertus IRC Channel Logs

2017/03/23

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BAndiT1983
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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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derWalter
hey Bertl, there are two different ways of bridging. one way is logging into matrix (www.riot.im) and directly joining the #apertus channel on irc freenode, this way you will only see the users in the channel once they have written something, the other way is to open an #apertus channel on the matrix network and bridge it with the #apertus irc channel on the freenode network, this way all users are synced, the irc users
00:14
derWalter
can see the matrix users and the matrix users can see all the irc users.
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intracube
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
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Bertl
derWalter: so why would that second way of bridging require channel op priviledges?
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se6astian|away
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Bertl
good morning se6astian!
07:05
se6astian
hello!
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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derWalter
@Bert: Bridging must be authorised by a channel operator on the IRC side.
10:19
derWalter
PROVIDING A CHANNEL WILL CAUSE A BOT TO JOIN THAT CHANNEL.
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derWalter
So there needs to be a Chanop in the Channel and I guess the bot then querries the Chanop for the okay to join and bridge, which the chanop then autorizes and then its done.
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ChanServ
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se6astian
op now
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se6astian
whats next derWalter?
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se6astian[m]
dejavue
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derWalter
ok, just a second
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se6astian
hmm, I didnt get anything
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derWalter
now you should have gotten it
11:05
se6astian
now yes
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se6astian
done
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derWalter
wohoo
11:06
se6astian[m]
so whats different now?
11:06
derWalter
there is a channel on the matrix network, called apertus, which is bridged with the irc channel on freenode
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derWalter
everything which gets posted on one network is also posted on the other one
11:07
se6astian[m]
ah so I actually need to join another room
11:07
se6astian[m]
let me try
11:08
derWalter
matrix offers integrations, bots and bridges, for instance, you can log into matrix, i can give you op there and you can link the github page to the matrix channel. there is also a twitter integration, so when a tiwtterpost is made, its caption is posted with a link, directly into the channel (offline right now, they are working on some fixes)
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se6astian
does it make a difference in riot if you join #apertus on freenode or #apertus on matrix?
11:12
derWalter
maybe there is something for the lab coming up, so if someone opens a new task, its posted to the channel, but i have not seen something for the lab, but i guess its easy, if we would have rss on the website, we could use the rss bot/bridge, so when a new teamtalk or newspost is published, its automatically posted here. the matrix network itself features a lot of features which are not available in irc itself, like e2e
11:12
derWalter
encrypted chatting, channel history on join (!) (so no need for bnc, or irc logs, but irc logs are very convinient, as its not just a big stream) if you drag and drop a picture, sound or video file it gets automatically uploaded and viewed inline in the chat stream and so on
11:13
se6astian[m]
phabricator has its own irc bot, we disabled it after a while because it became too annoying
11:13
derWalter
uploaded an image: autobahnkreuz-171093.jpg (593KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/mQWHCwDxgKqbsCbWCWcuewwG
11:13
derWalter
it is like slack, but open source, free and so forth ;)
11:14
derWalter
it also has clients for android, ios, windows, osx and ofc linux
11:15
se6astian
the sync is quite slow
11:15
derWalter
i e.g. use it as skype replacement for my distance relationship ;)
11:15
se6astian[m]
and the member list being incomplete in riot isnt fixed by the bridging?
11:15
se6astian
can take a minute for messages to appear here...
11:16
derWalter
i guess the members have to interact once with the channel
11:16
se6astian
sending matrix message now:
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derWalter
you can auth with freenode by msg nickserv
11:16
se6astian[m]
ok
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se6astian[m]
now
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se6astian
16 seconds...
11:17
derWalter
rly? i had some querry chats yesterday trough matrix to irc, which where quite fluent
11:18
se6astian
with this delay the order of messages also gets mixed up
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se6astian[m]
1.
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se6astian
2.
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se6astian
3.
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se6astian[m]
4
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se6astian
5.
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se6astian
now its quicker
11:18
se6astian
maybe network issues before
11:23
RexOrCine[m]
Test
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RexO
Test
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RexOrCine[m]
From my side message inputs are immediate on both channels.
11:24
derWalter
so i can leave now :)
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derWalter
btw, why was the phab irc bot to anoying?
11:27
se6astian
because it posted here with every activity in lab
11:27
RexO
Two things I like about it - Images show in the Riot stream, and I get push notes.
11:27
RexO
Although it doesn't post audio into the main channel, which is a shame.
11:28
RexOrCine[m]
People.m4a
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RexO
it also downloads an audio file to your device every time you play it which is a bit annoying.
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derWalter
it re-dowloads everytime you play it? which os? or are you using the online version (https://riot.im/app)?
11:32
RexO
It lists all media files under a tab which is handy.
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derWalter
yes and it also lists the mentions, which is also handy when there is a lot of chat and you have been away for some days or so...
11:33
RexO
derWalter nah I'm on the mobile app.
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RexO
RexOrCine Test
11:34
derWalter
rex, join the #apertus channel on matrix then :D
11:35
derWalter
you are connected directly to the irc channel trough the matrix network over the irc bridge, so you are using riot over matrix as an irc client, if you join the channel directly this behavoir will stop
11:35
RexO
I thought Matrix and Riot were the same thing?
11:35
derWalter
matrix is the network and riot is one of many, but THE, client for it
11:36
derWalter
there are nearly 30 clients out for matrix
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derWalter
7 servers
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derWalter
and 28 app (bridges and integrations)
11:38
derWalter
oh... i see there is an other grid with integrations 6x7 wide :P ... minecraft bridge some one :)?
11:40
derWalter
yepee, so i dont have to use the irc logs anymore or configure an irc client :) thx se6astian
11:40
se6astian[m]
np
11:48
derWalter
do we have a logo which can be used as an icon? the apertus font logo becomes a grey bar at such low resolutions... somethink like an black A or an orange O or somehing like that?
11:48
derWalter
and how to edit the wiki? (https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/Social)
11:50
se6astian[m]
apertus.org/logo
11:52
derWalter
i know, thats what i am using, it becomes a grey bar, due to the low resolution for icons.
11:55
RexOrCine[m]
You'd probably have to resize it. I might have one hold up.
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RexOrCine[m]
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11:56
RexO
Ooh, now that message took a minute or two to show up.
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RexO
Two things I'd like you to look at se6astian (have done for some time but there's a lot going on)
12:12
RexO
1. https://medium.com/@Gargron/two-reasons-why-organizations-should-switch-to-self-hosting-social-media-9a1bbac45b69#.xqlm68149
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RexO
2. https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon/blob/master/docs/Running-Mastodon/Production-guide.md
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RexO
We're there of course - https://mastodon.social/@apertus
12:13
RexO
(that stuff got a bit too technical for me)
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se6astian
interesting
12:34
derWalter
so, i did some kind of logo for the channel @riot :P
12:34
se6astian
I agree and follow the "full control" aspect
12:36
se6astian
but for me it boils down to a network that you control without audience vs a network you cannot control which huge audience ...
12:36
derWalter
well, if there is a twitter from mastogon, so it reposts everything on twitter..?
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derWalter
test, can you guys from irc download this file?
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derWalter
posted a file: Sortenpass_ELEMENT_BIO.pdf (157KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NpAgxTyBvmxluCXiCKtmlZVr
12:51
se6astian
yes
12:51
derWalter
yes, it worx as i see in the irc logs :)
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RexO
derWalter. No. Unless Mastodon was catered for in things like Hootsuite (which I don't like), and which undoubtedly won't happen, that wouldn't happen. They're separate entities.
13:13
RexO
se6astian is right, it's big network vs small network. We presently use FB, but I don't approve really. I'm more inclined to vote with our feet... which there are levels too. I'm in favour of the use of Twitter, just, but I want to encourage people away from it.
13:13
RexO
levels to*
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RexO
In terms of credibility Twitter is a lot less dirty than FB... which is the dirtiest of all platforms really.
13:17
RexO
Another point with Mastodon is that it's demographic is partially suited to what we're doing. Which is a bigger issue than someone might at first think, in that, our key demographic are film makers, however, film makers typically don't involve themselves with coding or making. AXIOM is poised betwixt demographics, much like Mastodon.
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RexO
I think Mastodon is quite a tightly knit community at present, because many of it's users have migrated over from Quitter, a Twitter clone that was probably never gonna become popular on account of its name, but it is growing.
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RexO
Mastodon I mean.
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se6astian
Id say we can check out how our mastodon account is growing over time
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se6astian
and then decide if its worth the effort
13:22
RexO
Still, I generally like to pursue what's new, precisely because of the dirty nature of existing, central platforms, but I think Mastodon could be important... an that we should be there.
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RexO
Are there any negatives of going 'all-in' with this server business se6astian?
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se6astian
you mean hosting it on our own server?
13:25
RexO
Aye.
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Bertl_oO
Mastodon is a heavy metal band :)
13:26
RexO
Apparently he likes them.
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se6astian
it takes significant effort to set it up I am afraid
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se6astian
plus it seems to be quite resource intensive if it does video transcoding with ffmpeg, etc.
13:27
se6astian
so if possible I would avoid it for now
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RexO
Aye YT embeds hasn't been done yet I don't think.
13:41
niemand1
if you need someone to administrate servers - I think I can help here
13:42
RexO
Oh yeah?
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BAndiT1983|away
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se6astian
niemand1: thanks, we will discuss it!
13:56
Tanos
Hello everyone!
13:56
Bertl_oO
hey Tanos!
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Tanos
hey Bertl !
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Tanos
@se6astian can I ask you a question about T720?
13:59
se6astian
sure!
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Tanos
How can you find out which settings can use the same calibration file? Is it known or is it something that needs testing?
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se6astian
it is know in some aspects
14:07
se6astian
we know that changing PLR HDR settings will require new calibrations
14:07
se6astian
we do one darkframe per gain (x1, x2, x3, x4)
14:07
se6astian
changing exposure time can use the same darkframe
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se6astian
changing on-sensor offsets will likely require new darkframes
14:08
se6astian
but in general its very much work in progress and research
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se6astian
Does that answer your question?
14:14
Tanos
Yes thank you.
14:14
se6astian
my pleasure
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derWalter
what happens with rich text (markdown) content?
14:56
derWalter
lets quote > something
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derWalter
or some code
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derWalter
i wonder who this will be :P!!!
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derWalter
uploaded an image: https%3A--imgs.xkcd.com-comics-team_chat.png (43KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ShbwwtRstTJJyjQYHSENiYNV
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se6astian
gotta go
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Roopal08_
Hey BandiT1983 , I couldn't be in touch in last 10 days , as I was busy with my mid sems .
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Roopal08_
In the last discussion which I had , You asked me to get the PRocessingTest running , and display an image on it
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Roopal08_
I had few doubts regarding that.
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Kshitij
Hi Bandit
18:43
BAndiT1983
hi
18:45
Kshitij
I'm having some problems in building OC, with the qt5quickwidgets library
18:45
BAndiT1983
what is the build error?
18:46
Kshitij
I tried through Qt and terminal both, but I'm stuck at " Not able to link CXX shared library."
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Kshitij
../lib/libQtAV.so no such file or directory
18:48
BAndiT1983
there are many of them, which one makes a problem? could you paste the build log into pastebin?
18:48
BAndiT1983
hm
18:48
BAndiT1983
had this problem with another guy before
18:48
BAndiT1983
which OS do you use?
18:48
Kshitij
I tried installing the QtAVlibrary through various sources but it's stuck
18:48
Kshitij
Ubuntu 16.04
18:49
BAndiT1983
you should not install it, OC pulls the repo of QtAV and builds it
18:50
Kshitij
It didn't do that, so I thought of doing it manually. Didn't succeed
18:51
BAndiT1983
installing it manually won't help you as CMake script searches for specific ones in the folder
18:51
BAndiT1983
please paste your build log, so i can try to analyze the problem
18:51
Kshitij
okay
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BAndiT1983
Kshitij_, you should really get some irc client, it's more comfortable
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Kshitij_
http://pastebin.com/XGgPcxQn
18:59
Kshitij_
Oh, okay i'll get one. Thanks.
19:02
BAndiT1983
which branch have you used?
19:02
Kshitij_
master
19:02
Kshitij_
http://pastebin.com/gqyK2k08 - This is terminal error output when I tried building it from command line
19:04
BAndiT1983
this output is of cmake configuration step, build looks different, but nonetheless it looks like there are libs missing
19:06
BAndiT1983
check in the folder /home/kshitij/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake/ Qt5QuickWidgets exists
19:07
Kshitij_
even /home/kshitij/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake does not exist
19:08
BAndiT1983
installing qt right now, so i can guide more efficiently
19:09
BAndiT1983
that's my path -> /home/dev/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake/Qt5QuickWidgets
19:09
BAndiT1983
check your installation of qt, i've selected only desktop libs for x64 and qtcreator
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Kshitij_
I had tried this option before, but then I installed Qt with all it's components because it was having some problems with the internet
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Kshitij_
in the software
19:12
BAndiT1983
i've downloaded the offline installer, as i was testing some things to get VM for OC development done, so people don't have to install the libs themself
19:12
BAndiT1983
it works just with this 2 options usually
19:15
Kshitij_
Okay. I'll try building it again then from the very beginning.
19:16
BAndiT1983
you should just clear the build directory and run cmake again
19:16
BAndiT1983
no need to start from the beginning
19:20
Kshitij_
Okay, I'll do that. What could be the reason /home/kshitij/Qt/5.8/gcc_64/lib/cmake directory isn't there?
19:21
BAndiT1983
install failed somewhere, jsut download the full installer down, this should prevent problems when internet connection breaks down
19:23
Kshitij_
I downloaded the offline installer. It didn't install when I did it in the terminal. But it was fine when I installed it using GUI
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BAndiT1983
what do you mean by installing in terminal? the installer starts a wizard usually
19:26
Kshitij_
Yes, of course. But when I ran ./qt-opensource-linux-x64-5.8.0.run It gave an error that the setup file was broken
19:26
BAndiT1983
seems like it's really broken
19:26
Kshitij_
It was fine when I double clicked and the wizard started like no problem
19:28
BAndiT1983
it should also start from terminal, it's the usual way i do it, as it requires chmod +x when you start it first time
19:29
Kshitij_
Okay, then I'll try and Install Qt again. Sorry to bug you on such a small problem, I was really stuck there. Let's hope I'm able to build now. Thanks.
19:30
BAndiT1983
no problem here, it's a good way to find errors in build instructions or with different versions of libs
19:31
Kshitij_
Thanks again.
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se6astian
off to bed
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se6astian
good night
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