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| 00:08 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 00:08 | troy_s | No.
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| 00:11 | Bertl | No?
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| 04:12 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 11:11 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 14:30 | se6astian | EU grant results released!
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| 14:30 | se6astian | https://apertus.org/horizon-2020-AXIOM-Gamma-grant-application-results
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| 14:43 | intracube | congratulations se6astian! :)
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| 14:45 | se6astian | Thanks :)
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| 14:49 | intracube | really nice concept art too
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| 14:49 | intracube | https://apertus.org/sites/default/files/AXIOM-GAMMA-concept.jpg
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| 15:27 | se6astian | gotta go
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| 15:27 | se6astian | bbl
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| 15:59 | aombk | why use arri lens in the rendering?
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| 15:59 | comradekingu | could nix the logo at least
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| 16:02 | intracube | aombk: moar realism :)
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| 16:47 | troy_s | aombk: Why not?
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| 16:48 | troy_s | Likely speaks more to the target demographic than say, a Nikon.
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| 16:48 | troy_s | se6astian|away: Excellent looking progress on the Gamma renders.
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| 16:49 | troy_s | I take it the smaller round disk is the low pass filter?
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| 16:55 | troy_s | My gut concern would be cables out the side, which seems problematic.
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| 16:57 | intracube | troy_s: ^ how so?
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| 16:58 | troy_s | Because your left to right tolerances are extremely small in heads etc. Think tilt.
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| 16:58 | troy_s | So any transmitters etc, would be forcing a coaxial bend to mount somewhere else on the camera. Likely easier out rear.
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| 16:58 | intracube | ah right. maybe 90° BNC connectors would be low profile enough
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| 16:59 | troy_s | Well there is another issue in that the right side of the camera is an assistant's domain.
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| 16:59 | troy_s | Remember that in a handheld or fluid head based operation, the EVF / viewfinder is typically on the left for right side shoulder etc.
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| 17:00 | troy_s | As in _all_ accessories tend to err that way.
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| 17:00 | intracube | right
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| 17:00 | troy_s | Which typically leaves the right side the domain of interfaces and readouts for the assist.
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| 17:01 | intracube | connectors at the back wouldn't break the current modular concept
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| 17:01 | troy_s | (And also where an assist would typically stand when follow focus work was required)
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| 17:01 | intracube | just all the I/O stuff would have to be last in the stack
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| 17:01 | troy_s | Yes.
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| 17:02 | troy_s | And of course, the lovely previs is missing mount holes, which are absolutely critical unless one expects secondary cages to be manufactured.
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| 17:03 | troy_s | (If you want to see how ghastly aftermarket cages bulk up the overall mess, have a look at the DSLR or BMCC or even R3D cages end up.
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| 17:03 | intracube | has recently been looking at DSLR cages
| | 17:03 | troy_s | R3D basically ends up with an exo-cage that has a multitude of mount holes on the top plate.
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| 17:03 | intracube | some folks rigs have horrible ergonomics
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| 17:03 | troy_s | DSLR is a dead form factor for cinema work. Many peeps are simply tired of the damn things.
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| 17:04 | troy_s | Yep.
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| 17:04 | intracube | not properly balancing on the shoulder. front having to be held up by your arms, etc
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| 17:04 | troy_s | The Arri handle plate seems to be one of the more well thought out pieces.
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| 17:04 | troy_s | DSLR forms are flawed by design here.
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| 17:05 | troy_s | And you cannot escape it. It is just god awful design when they choose to lean that way.
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| 17:05 | troy_s | Anyways... The previs looks fantastic. Great discussion entry point.
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| 17:06 | troy_s | Gives an actual thing to begin discussions on that isn't fictional guesswork.
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| 17:06 | troy_s | Not sure if the body is going to have an interface?
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| 17:17 | intracube | one thing I don't remember seeing for the Gamma is where the standard controls will go
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| 18:03 | troy_s | Rebelj12a: Greets.
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| 18:20 | Bertl | off for a nap .. bbl
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| 18:30 | Rebelj12a | ahoy
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| 18:30 | Hyuri | Ahoy
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| 18:32 | se6astian | I am back
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| 18:34 | Hyuri | This project is so awesome, I can't contain my happiness, haha
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| 18:34 | lab-bot | Hamlet created T228: Active Nikon F lens mount. http://lab.apertus.org/T228
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| 18:42 | Rebelj12a | oy
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| 18:50 | Rebelj12a | Whats today christmas? yeah I think it is
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| 19:18 | Hyuri | Hey, guys, is anyone here from the team that did the AXIOM Beta survey?
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| 19:19 | Rebelj12a | The whole axiom team at any point in time is here, Although Bertl and Sebastian are the ones most active. Id say for that, talk to Sebastian
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| 19:19 | Hyuri | Ah, ok
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| 19:27 | se6astian | I am here
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| 19:27 | se6astian | seems like Aja read our news
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| 19:27 | se6astian | and decided they needed to release the CION immediately
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| 19:27 | se6astian | https://www.aja.com/?utm_campaign=cionshipping_emblast_euser
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| 19:34 | Rebelj12a | haha
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| 19:34 | Rebelj12a | Making everyone sweat
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| 21:30 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 21:55 | se6astian | time for bed
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| 21:55 | se6astian | remember we have the "LONGEST NIGHT" ahead :)
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| 22:03 | aombk | what does this mean? longest night?
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| 22:03 | aombk | ah got it ok
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