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2013/11/22

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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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S3bastian
good evening
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S3bastian
afternoon?
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FergusL
hi here
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FergusL
afternoon I'd say
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leo_m
hi everyone
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FergusL
hi leo_m
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S3bastian
hello!
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Bertl
morning everyone!
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S3bastian
hellO!
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FergusL
Hey, is tiff a float format ? Cc troy_s
17:09
FergusL
Cc rexbron
17:11
Bertl
The inclusion of the SampleFormat tag in TIFF 6.0 allows TIFF files to handle advanced pixel data types, including integer images with more than 8 bits per channel and floating point images.
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philippej
Hi everyone !
17:31
Bertl
hey philippej!
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FergusL
thanks Bertl, I knew you were the kind of guy that print and pins all the relevant RFCs just above the computer screen on the wall
17:32
philippej
Bertl, I got a reply from avnet, basically, they will at some point make a new board, but curently they are not yet in the design phase...
17:32
Bertl
FergusL: virtually, yes
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Bertl
philippej: any ideas what the usual cycle for that would be?
17:33
Bertl
i.e. one month design, one month testing? or one year design, no testing?
17:33
philippej
"The only board we have today that would meet your requirements is the ZynQ MMP module AES-MMP-7Z045-G but it’s cost could be prohibitive. We have talked about building a 7015 board but don’t have it planned yet so it would be several months before it would be available for sale."
17:34
philippej
"Does the CMV12000 allow you to double the data rate to 600Mbps? This would allow you to use a 32 bit interface to the MicroZed and leave enough pairs available to add an external high speed serializer for the SDI interface. This is probably the best solution we have at this time.
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philippej
I will keep your requirements in mind as we develop the spec for our 7015 boards. "
17:34
Bertl
also the 7045 is a no-go for us, because the WebPack does not cover it
17:34
philippej
I thought already abot it :-(
17:34
philippej
this board is +- $1200
17:35
philippej
is it an option to add an external serdes to the microzed and use half io of the sensor for now? does it make sense technically and economically ?
17:36
Bertl
won't work, we wouldn't even have enough I/O ports port this
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Bertl
i.e. we could use even less lanes from the sensor, but that kind of fails the point
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Bertl
besides, I haven't had a chance to check out the microzed, but that will probably change soon
17:37
philippej
do yo understand like me they are planing a new board in months (not years)?
17:38
Bertl
well, my interpretation is, that it will take 'several' months, which is the usual vague hand-waving for 'some unknown time'
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Bertl
all it means is that it won't be available in the next few months
17:39
philippej
yep
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philippej
I really wanted to find a solution that allows to develop now the software side and provide a lower end (cheaper, less risky) model, while allowing future upgrades ... :-/
17:42
Bertl
as I said, I'm all for it, but I doubt it exists atm
17:42
philippej
yeps
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FergusL
how does one deal with the glossiness of the IT8 paper ?
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Bertl
good question, one suggestion I've seen several times is to use really diffuse lighting and keep objects away from the paper
17:46
FergusL
yes, that's the idea I guess
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philippej
and position the light such as the paper doesn't reflect :-)
17:48
Bertl
well, with diffuse lighting there is no 'light' per se
17:48
FergusL
I wonder if right now it could be a slight bummer for the profiling
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philippej
you just put it enough out of the axis of the camera
17:51
Bertl
which would cause a problem with the uniformity
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Bertl
so you need at least two light sources to get somewhat reasonable results
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Bertl
it helps that the chart is relatively small, so with two larger light sources you have a good chance to illuminate it evenly
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FergusL
I've seen a chart shooting setup once, it had two diffuse light on the sides
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FergusL
camera right in front, more than 2m away for the chart
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Bertl
yep, sounds like a reasonable setup
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Bertl
light sources probably at 45° to the chart normal
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FergusL
yes
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FergusL
from the top of your head, do you remember if the IT8 shot is flipped ?
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Bertl
yes, it is flipped, so that it 'looks' normal
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Bertl
(i.e. the letters are readable)
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FergusL
I see
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FergusL
well it's still important for the debayering
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Bertl
register dump is at the end of the raw data
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FergusL
I know ! it follows the addresses in the cmv doc I guess ?
18:03
Bertl
yes, precisely, 16bit each register from address 0 to 127
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FergusL
ok
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troy_s
FergusL: There may be a float version, but mostly int as I know.