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| 01:41 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 03:26 | troy_s | Barf.
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| 03:26 | troy_s | How you doing Herbs?
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| 03:27 | troy_s | Bertl: Who is the red haired fellow in the video with se6astian?
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| 03:27 | Bertl | fine, thanks! and you?
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| 03:27 | troy_s | Good. Just home.
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| 03:28 | Bertl | you mean the one with the beanie?
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| 03:28 | troy_s | PS: When starting a segment, âHello everyone. I am Filbert.â âAnd I am Buttski.â is a great way to start. ;)
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| 03:28 | troy_s | IT'S A TOQUE DAMMIT.
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| 03:29 | troy_s | Beanie. Sheesh.
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| 03:29 | troy_s | We Canadians know toques. They are a vital life-support device. Calling them Beanies demeans their place in our culture!
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| 03:30 | Bertl | ah, yes :)
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| 03:30 | troy_s | Bertl: Yes. Him.
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| 03:30 | troy_s | :)
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| 03:31 | Bertl | that's max, he basically did the indiegogo video (as camera-man)
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| 03:31 | Bertl | and also helped a lot with the perk stuff
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| 03:32 | Bertl | curious that we do not have him on the team page ... have to urge se6astian to add him
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| 03:32 | troy_s | Good peep.
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| 03:32 | Bertl | well, OTOH, you're not there either (yet :)
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| 03:33 | troy_s | Not like I do much. Just idle in here and make sarcastic comments.
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| 03:34 | Bertl | and provide valuable input and inside knowledge as side-dish :)
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| 03:34 | troy_s | (Don't get me wrong... It takes me a hell of a lot of effort to muster up the sarcasm.)
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| 03:34 | troy_s | (It has to do with what is known as the transformation of grey matter into brown matter.)
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| 03:35 | Bertl | ah, no big deal, I'm good in missing sarcasm :)
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| 03:35 | Bertl | s/in/at/
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| 03:37 | troy_s | Nerd.
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| 03:42 | troy_s | God. I am raging.
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| 03:48 | Bertl | why's that?
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| 04:10 | troy_s | Bertl: Just more of the same âWe need a good NLE in Libre!â posts.
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| 04:11 | troy_s | It is so flagrantly obvious that _no one_ has a fscking clue as to A) what an NLE needs to do B) that there are different NLE contexts (news, quickie out the door commercials, cinema)
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| 04:11 | troy_s | To be blunt, I have said it a dozen times, if someone sat down tomorrow they could write an asskicking NLE in a month.
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| 04:12 | troy_s | Instead, we have Cinelerra, Lumiera, Novacut, PiTiVi, KDEnlive, Shotcut, OpenShot, and god knows how many abject more failures.
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| 04:12 | troy_s | It is tragic. Pathetic. And so utterly infuriating.
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| 04:14 | troy_s | It feels like a groundhog day like the XKCD cartoon on standards.
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| 04:14 | troy_s | Head slapping frustration.
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| 04:14 | Bertl | hehe
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| 04:15 | troy_s | I mean if folks knew and understood say, 10% of imaging
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| 04:15 | troy_s | TEN PERCENT
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| 04:15 | troy_s | It would become painfully clear how an ONLINE EDITOR will _always_ damn well fail
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| 04:15 | troy_s | Blinn's law.
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| 04:15 | troy_s | Deal breakers off the top of my head, and I am not even trying...
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| 04:16 | troy_s | 32 bit float processing (soon 64 possibly)
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| 04:16 | troy_s | Deep compositing
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| 04:17 | troy_s | Uniques such as tracking, optical flows, who-knows-what
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| 04:17 | troy_s | Grading at full depth
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| 04:17 | troy_s | Etc. Etc. Etc.
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| 04:17 | troy_s | Those things will continually stack up against you, and that is even assuming you are aware of the VAST DAMN TERRAIN it covers.
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| 04:18 | troy_s | And even assuming you have a HUGE team with massive knowledge.
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| 04:18 | troy_s | It is so hopeless that it should make all of those damn projects just stop and go "Wait a minute... There might be a semblance of logic there..."
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| 04:19 | troy_s | Anyways... I've watched this revolving door since about 1995 in Libre land...
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| 04:19 | troy_s | Same circles over and over an over and over.
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| 04:20 | troy_s | It is also why I absolutely cringe at the OpenCine project.
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| 04:20 | troy_s | Same mistakes.
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| 14:27 | comradekingu | i got a picture of the zebra
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| 14:27 | comradekingu | and the new sound-bus
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| 14:27 | comradekingu | which is an actual bus
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| 16:06 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 18:10 | se6astian | good evening
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| 18:13 | troy_s | Evening? Sheesh.
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| 19:15 | se6astian | troy_s: thanks for the reminder, I added max to the team page and asked him to update his bio and profile image
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| 19:16 | troy_s | LOL
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| 19:17 | troy_s | Was a fun video. Hope to see more.
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| 19:19 | se6astian | great you liked it
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| 19:20 | se6astian | I discovered in the process that I seem to be able to be funny to watch :)
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| 19:21 | se6astian | because so far I did not consider myself to be an "in front of the camera person" - and on top not even to be fun to watch :)
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| 20:10 | troy_s | se6astian: It was excellent for a first outing.
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| 20:10 | troy_s | se6astian: The whimsical approach made me think you folks could amp up the next one doing a Mystery Science Theater vibe.
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| 20:11 | troy_s | That is, record it, cut it, an then add in some post-production elements to amplify the funny bits, and inform where applicable.
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| 20:11 | troy_s | (Like a thought bubble joke, or a little graphic here and there that sort of jests at the presenters, etc.)
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| 20:12 | troy_s | Could be quite fun and simply push the direction you already have going a little further, without much extra effort.
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| 20:29 | se6astian | interesting idea
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| 20:29 | se6astian | will think about it :)
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| 21:03 | se6astian | good night
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