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2017/11/21

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Bertl_oO
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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se6astian
good day
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seku
morning
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Bertl
morning folks!
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msvb-lab
Hello folks, ist das hier Deutsch sprachig or are we using Mandarin today?
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parasew[m]
hi all, meet msvb-lab who will be coming to vienna in december.
14:05
parasew[m]
he is working on the monero open hardware wallet, and we will be having a meetup and workshops on the 15/16/17 dec.
14:05
parasew[m]
see https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/88149/dedicated-monero-hardware-wallet
14:06
msvb-lab
Another (more recent) resource is our project management portal:
14:06
msvb-lab
https://taiga.getmonero.org/project/michael-rfc-hwallet-1-implementation/
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parasew[m]
Bertl: hi! (long time no see) i think you should meet msvb-lab :)
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msvb-lab
https://taiga.getmonero.org/project/michael-rfc-hwallet-1-implementation/wiki/press/
14:06
msvb-lab
Bertl se6astian: Hi folks, nice to meet you.
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msvb-lab
Is Herbert here?
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msvb-lab
We know Wien a bit already (particularly the Metalab) and are quite thrilled to meet there.
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msvb-lab
As well as get to know more of the subculture like RIAT, and check out the Axiom which some of us have seen at CCC events.
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msvb-lab
We'll even have the question on site, if possible to use a camera and make a 1 minute video of our current wallet prototype.
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msvb-lab
Mostly just because we're deviant hackers that like FPGA hardware, but it would serve to promote our wallet as well of course.
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Bertl
hey msvb-lab!
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Bertl
I'm here ...
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msvb-lab
Hi Bertl, cool.
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msvb-lab
I guess things are coming together with the December meeting(s).
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msvb-lab
What's the relation of 'apertus' with 'Axiom' or 'RIAT'?
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msvb-lab
Is 'Apertus' an area of the RIAT.Space where production occurs?
14:20
Bertl
no, Apertus is an association concerned with open source and open hardware cinematography
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Bertl
AXIOM is the FOSS/OH camera developed to facilitate this
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Bertl
the AXIOM Beta is the second incarnation, our development prototype
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msvb-lab
Interesting, so AXIOM (Alpha|Beta|n..1) derives meaning from Apertus and is a type of pilot.
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msvb-lab
Could there be other Apertus projects that complement or compete with AXIOM, is that the idea?
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msvb-lab
Is there a specific place where development, production, or testing happens?
14:23
Bertl
there are a number of projects, se6astian can tell you more
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msvb-lab
Bertl: Great, I really hope to learn more once on site there in Wien.
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msvb-lab
Do you think it would be possible to schedule an hour to use the AXIOM in a well lit environment?
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msvb-lab
For product video promotion?
14:24
Bertl
very likely
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se6astian
hi msvb-lab
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se6astian
here is the list of all apertus projects
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se6astian
https://www.apertus.org/views/projects?field_project_type_tid=All&field_status_tid_1=All&field_projects_target_id=All
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se6astian
some are old and outdated but it should give a good overview
14:29
msvb-lab
se6astian: Hello.
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msvb-lab
Great, who's in Australia?
14:30
se6astian
you mentioned you would like to shoot a promotion video with an AXIOM Beta, this would need some planning as you need additional stuff around the beta and we cannot provide you with everything
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se6astian
we are happy to provide a development camera prototype
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se6astian
but it doesnt record audio
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se6astian
and you need an external HDMI recorder
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se6astian
also I am not sure about the well lit space
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parasew[m]
se6astian: does atomos ninja work? we have one at riat
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se6astian
that should work yes
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msvb-lab
se6astian: We don't need audio at all, will cut that in later.
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msvb-lab
It seems this might not work however, since we're just there for a few days and I don't know where to get a HDMI recorder.
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msvb-lab
This is where the interface between pros and idiots like me falls apart, but that's okay.
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msvb-lab
It was definitely worth asking.
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msvb-lab
If atomos ninja is some possible substitute or maybe it's a HDMI recorder, then we're happy to use that.
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msvb-lab
In the end we would burn a watermark into the final video with ffmpeg(1) and make it say Apertus or AXIOM.
14:44
se6astian
sthe atomos ninja is a HDMI recorder indeed
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msvb-lab
If we're allowed to suggest a happy union of OSH friendship.
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msvb-lab
se6astian: Should I bring a SATA 3.5" drive to plug in the Atomos, or something else?
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se6astian
then my only remaining concern is that the AXIOM Beta is not a production ready camera yet so if you are only here for a couple of days it might be more time consuming to get to know and use it
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se6astian
check with parasew[m] what recording media he has for the ninja
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msvb-lab
se6astian: That's a valid concern, especially because we're not sure how many will be there at the same time, and what our final interests will be.
14:46
msvb-lab
Our goal is about 1 minute of product video, like the PCB on a spinning DJ turntable or something.
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se6astian
its definitely possible but as you said time and people are limited, you will also need light equipment, etc. so I would not underestimate the effort required for this to work out
14:51
se6astian
but again we are happy to supply you with a camera for a day or two for this
14:52
Bertl
if all you want to do is spin a PCB on a turn table, this can probably be done at our assembly facilities with the test setup
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msvb-lab
se6astian Bertl: That's great news, maybe we'll get lucky and end up with a minute of beautiful vide to showcase at 34C3 and online.
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msvb-lab
Half the value for us is to simply learn about video and see your FPGA work.
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msvb-lab
I'd like to compare with an equivalent shoot from a good phone camera, which is obviously a joke but still an eye opener for idiot novices.
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Bertl
let us know when you have the details for your visit and we will see to arrange something
15:12
msvb-lab
Bertl: Okay, thanks a lot. I already know that I'm arriving on evening 14 November and will have Sunday and Monday free.
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Bertl
2018? because it's already November the 21st :)
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msvb-lab
Bertl: Oups, I meant December. Arriving Thursday 14 December and leaving probably the Tuesday after.
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msvb-lab
I think it's 2017 right now, wait let me check.
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msvb-lab
Yes, my Internet search confirmed this.
15:15
se6astian
I am afraid from 14th to 19th of december the assembly office is occupied by our SDI development hackathon
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Bertl
which doesn't mean that you can't put your PCBs on a turn table, if you do not disturb the folks working there :)
15:17
se6astian
sure, it just means we will be pretty occupied
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se6astian
again you are welcome to visit us and join us, I just dont want to raise unrealistic expectations :)
15:20
msvb-lab
No problem, we're not bringing anything special (unless I'm told to bring a HD) so we can leave most or all things to chance.
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B5Studios
Hello, Paul here
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Bertl
hello B5Studios!
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se6astian
hi there
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B5Studios
Hello se6astian
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se6astian
B5Studios: see direct message
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B5Studios
I do not know how to access direct message, where do I click
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Bertl
what client do you use? the web client?
17:38
B5Studios
yes, using Webbased client on the apertus site (/irc-chat)
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se6astian
I guess there is a new tab somewhere with my name?
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Bertl
B5Studios: there will be a new 'tab' in red at the top besides the channel name
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Bertl
(i.e. in the status line)
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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se6astian
good night!
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