| 00:03 | aombk | so does greece spain italy and portugal
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| 00:05 | aombk | actually greece my not be in eu by the time beta ships
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| 00:06 | aombk | but the chinese know the tricks
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| 00:07 | aombk | just write "sample" or "gift" on the package
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| 00:07 | Bertl | lol
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| 00:08 | Bertl | Axiom Beta Sample sounds good :)
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| 00:11 | aombk | yes it does. axiom beta gift for backers :)
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| 00:23 | intracube | I don't think gift/sample/nominal price always works here
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| 00:23 | intracube | import officals can charge what they -think- is the full price...
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| 00:26 | intracube | so many apertus team will have to be creative
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| 00:26 | intracube | like make the Gamma a functioning coffee maker
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| 00:28 | intracube | to attract a lower tax rate
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| 00:40 | intracube | s/many/maybe
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| 00:50 | Bertl | intracube: toaster :)
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| 01:00 | intracube | Bertl: yes, why not :P
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| 01:06 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 03:30 | Rebelj12a | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813995027&cm_re=Thunderbolt_expansion_card-_-13-995-027-_-Product
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| 03:30 | Rebelj12a | Woah long link, in any case, thunderbolt pci card for asus motherboards, there may be more just making people aware.
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| 04:32 | Rebelj12a | Never doing business with vimeo
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| 04:32 | Rebelj12a | ever again
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| 05:29 | Rebelj12a | Looking up linux driver support for thunderbolt has it in kernel 3 https://github.com/torvalds/linux
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| 07:12 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 07:37 | se6astian | good morning
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| 07:37 | Bertl | morning se6astian!
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| 08:28 | se6astian | hi davidak_
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| 08:31 | davidak_ | good morning ^^
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| 09:43 | se6astian | @community please help us test our new task/bug/issue/wishlist tracking system: http://lab.apertus.org/
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| 09:44 | davidak_ | is that the best place to follow the development?
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| 09:50 | se6astian | a good place definitely :)
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| 09:52 | andrew_levine | OK, set up a phabricator-account.
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| 09:52 | se6astian | great
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| 09:52 | andrew_levine | ;-)
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| 09:52 | se6astian | you can subscribe to projects/tasks you are interested in
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| 09:52 | andrew_levine | OK
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| 09:52 | se6astian | and will get email notification in case anything in that task/project happens
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| 09:53 | se6astian | you can of course also help with the task itself
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| 10:04 | davidak_ | some days ago i was thinking what is needed to shoot underwater with the axiom...
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| 10:04 | davidak_ | but i think better to wait for the final design
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| 10:05 | davidak_ | it would need a housing where all that stuff fits in, like recorder/display, lens and some way to trigger recording
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| 10:05 | davidak_ | that housing would be bigger, so a lot of air is inside
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| 10:10 | se6astian | yes, better to wait a bit with that :)
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| 10:14 | davidak_ | is there a place where you collect ideas to still capture?
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| 10:15 | andrew_levine | BTW, have you had contact with any manufacturer of audio components?
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| 10:16 | se6astian | no
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| 10:16 | se6astian | what would we ask them?
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| 10:16 | davidak_ | what about a trigger button on the hardware?
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| 10:18 | andrew_levine | I know the Beta does not have any audio in/out currently, but since it is a modular solution it might be interesting to interface with a potential collaborator.
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| 10:18 | andrew_levine | On the road to the gamme ;-)
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| 10:18 | andrew_levine | "Gamma"
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| 10:20 | andrew_levine | I've been beta-testing and working with Metric Halo hardware for a few years. http://mhlabs.com/ Great little company IMHO.
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| 10:21 | andrew_levine | The lead developer BJ Buchalter is very accessible and has done some amazing stuff in the past.
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| 10:22 | Bertl | so maybe get him here on IRC, if he is interested in contributing to open hardware
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| 10:22 | andrew_levine | I'll let him know.
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| 10:24 | se6astian | audio hardware makes sense as soon as we can do internal recording
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| 10:24 | se6astian | until then where would any audio be saved to?
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| 10:24 | se6astian | davidak_: what do you mean with a "trigger button"?
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| 10:25 | andrew_levine | Sure, I know sebastian.
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| 10:26 | andrew_levine | Clocking and sync would be interesting too, not only audio capture.
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| 10:27 | andrew_levine | Currently the recorder will take care of that.
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| 10:28 | andrew_levine | Off to walk the dog. bb
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| 10:47 | davidak_ | se6astian: like a point and shoot photocamera has
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| 10:47 | Bertl | will be possible via the GPIO shield
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| 10:54 | davidak_ | so its not planned for the design of the axiom boddy?
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| 10:56 | Bertl | there won't be just one design for the body
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| 11:19 | se6astian | so you mean a shutter release button, please add it to the wishlist on lab.apertus.org
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| 11:43 | se6astian | bbl
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| 11:52 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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| 14:22 | Rebotnix_Gary | Hi all
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| 14:22 | Rebotnix_Gary | are you guys beta-backer for the apertus camera?
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| 14:26 | mars_ | some are, but it's also channel where the developers are
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| 14:26 | mars_ | +the
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| 14:27 | Rebotnix_Gary | i see. i´m also a developer for wireless video system and i´m thinking to make an addon for HD over OFDM or COFDM modulation
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| 14:27 | Rebotnix_Gary | i would like to share some ideas..i back yesterday on indiego
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| 14:28 | Rebotnix_Gary | and i really like the idea of the project
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| 14:28 | Rebotnix_Gary | the question i´m asking myself if uncompressed or compressed transmission makes sense
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| 14:28 | Rebotnix_Gary | uncompressed give better quality, compressed better range and its gives a way for IP access as well
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| 14:30 | Rebotnix_Gary | i would also like to know if the processing power is fast enough for implementing some other codecs then h.264 or prores. i´m a big fan of hevc and have some prototypes ready to show.
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| 14:30 | Rebotnix_Gary | a good example (its not spam, just a technical demo) is on my project site: http://hevcp.com
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| 14:30 | danieel | Gary, how does your units compare to e.g. Cobham?
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| 14:31 | Rebotnix_Gary | cobham is the king of COFDM, i think the biggest compare is size
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| 14:31 | Rebotnix_Gary | when you take a look at NANO from cobham, its really great
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| 14:31 | danieel | yes, i was thinking of that
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| 14:31 | Rebotnix_Gary | from the quality, i would like to say that our small company can beat
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| 14:31 | Rebotnix_Gary | cobham
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| 14:31 | Rebotnix_Gary | also from the point of price :)
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| 14:32 | Rebotnix_Gary | i would like to bring the COFDM to the IP world
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| 14:32 | mars_ | Rebotnix_Gary: for technical questions regarding the beta, you should talk to Bertl_oO (he is sleeping right now i think)
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| 14:32 | danieel | where are you at? half or tenth of the Nano price?
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| 14:32 | danieel | IP you mean usual wifi?
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| 14:32 | Rebotnix_Gary | currently we only design some prototypes, yes half price is realstic
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| 14:32 | Rebotnix_Gary | IP = WIFI yes..
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| 14:32 | Rebotnix_Gary | but also here with 900mhz modulators you can extend wifi a lot in a mesh for example
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| 14:32 | Rebotnix_Gary | which is complicated with COFDM
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| 14:32 | Rebotnix_Gary | also licenses is a big problem
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| 14:33 | Rebotnix_Gary | when you use licensed bands..
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| 14:33 | Rebotnix_Gary | but..i think some addons for apertus makes sense
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| 14:33 | Rebotnix_Gary | make a low cost wifi with latency <100ms
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| 14:33 | Rebotnix_Gary | and a ios decoder that decodes 1080p on the GPU? what you think?
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| 14:34 | Rebotnix_Gary | ok.. i will come from time to time
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| 14:34 | Rebotnix_Gary | and it would be nice when we can share some ideas..
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| 14:36 | mars_ | there is a website for sharing ideas: http://lab.apertus.org/
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| 14:37 | mars_ | and you can follow/participate in the dev process
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| 14:37 | Rebotnix_Gary | thank mars
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| 14:37 | mars_ | you are welcoe
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| 14:37 | mars_ | +m
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| 14:52 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 14:52 | Bertl | hey Rebotnix_Gary!
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| 14:59 | Rebotnix_Gary | hi bert1
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| 15:00 | Rebotnix_Gary | i´m very sorry, i have to catch my kids from scool and will come back for sure...
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| 15:01 | Bertl | no problem
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| 15:16 | philippej | This hevcp is very interesting !
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| 15:17 | philippej | ... if the codec is poen source
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| 15:17 | philippej | (open)
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| 15:42 | intracube | philippej: HEVC is far from open src
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| 15:42 | intracube | it looks like licensing could be more complex than h.264
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| 15:42 | philippej | looks like, I looked a bit more closely
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| 15:42 | intracube | 3rd section: http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/The-Future-of-HEVC-Its-Coming-but-with-Plenty-of-Questions-89010.aspx
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| 15:42 | philippej | too bad
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| 15:42 | intracube | yep
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| 15:44 | intracube | but there's nothing to stop companies making proprietary addons for the Beta/Gamma cameras
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| 16:41 | se6astian | back
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| 16:44 | Bertl | wb
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| 16:47 | se6astian | thanks :)
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| 19:49 | troy_s | greets all.
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| 19:54 | Bertl | hey troy_s!
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| 19:54 | troy_s | Bertl: Greets B.
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| 20:04 | dark_ata | hello
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| 20:04 | Bertl | welcome dark_ata!
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| 20:06 | intracube | evening dark_ata, troy_s, Bertl
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| 20:06 | intracube | eh, and I was trying to list names alphabetically too o.O
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| 20:06 | intracube | moar coffee
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| 20:06 | Bertl | well, close, but no banana :)
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| 20:18 | Rebelj12a | Free icons! Really need to login to lab.Apertus and start things.
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| 20:18 | Rebelj12a | http://gizmodo.com/google-just-released-hundreds-of-cool-icons-that-you-ca-1648797992?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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| 20:18 | Rebelj12a | Oh god
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| 20:18 | Rebelj12a | https://github.com/google/material-design-icons/releases/tag/1.0.0
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| 20:18 | Rebelj12a | There
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| 20:18 | Rebelj12a | Google is a big corporation yet google is a prominent supporter of open source. Go google.
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| 20:21 | Bertl | yes, indeed, thanks to larry :)
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| 20:26 | Rebelj12a | I almost won the stock exchange game back in high school. Well if I didn't listen to the group and invest in one stock which I thought was a dead drag anchor stock. We would've won. It still kills me, back in 2001 I told my parents wanted to invest in stock. I told them google. They said, well my parents stock broker said we should invest in green energy. If I find this man, I will hunt him down I swear.
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| 20:29 | Rebelj12a | Oy heading to the office talk to you guys later.
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| 21:55 | se6astian | good night!
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| 23:27 | Bertl | wb comradekingu!
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| 23:31 | Bertl | I'm a bot, but a smart one :)
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| 23:32 | comradekingu | unless...
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