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2014/10/21

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00:03
aombk
so does greece spain italy and portugal
00:05
aombk
actually greece my not be in eu by the time beta ships
00:06
aombk
but the chinese know the tricks
00:07
aombk
just write "sample" or "gift" on the package
00:07
Bertl
lol
00:08
Bertl
Axiom Beta Sample sounds good :)
00:11
aombk
yes it does. axiom beta gift for backers :)
00:23
intracube
I don't think gift/sample/nominal price always works here
00:23
intracube
import officals can charge what they -think- is the full price...
00:25
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intracube
so many apertus team will have to be creative
00:26
intracube
like make the Gamma a functioning coffee maker
00:28
intracube
to attract a lower tax rate
00:40
intracube
s/many/maybe
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Bertl
intracube: toaster :)
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intracube
Bertl: yes, why not :P
01:06
Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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Rebelj12a
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813995027&cm_re=Thunderbolt_expansion_card-_-13-995-027-_-Product
03:30
Rebelj12a
Woah long link, in any case, thunderbolt pci card for asus motherboards, there may be more just making people aware.
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04:32
Rebelj12a
Never doing business with vimeo
04:32
Rebelj12a
ever again
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Rebelj12a
Looking up linux driver support for thunderbolt has it in kernel 3 https://github.com/torvalds/linux
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Bertl_zZ
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07:12
Bertl
morning folks!
07:31
se6astian|away
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07:37
se6astian
good morning
07:37
Bertl
morning se6astian!
08:21
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se6astian
hi davidak_
08:31
davidak_
good morning ^^
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09:43
se6astian
@community please help us test our new task/bug/issue/wishlist tracking system: http://lab.apertus.org/
09:44
davidak_
is that the best place to follow the development?
09:49
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09:50
se6astian
a good place definitely :)
09:52
andrew_levine
OK, set up a phabricator-account.
09:52
se6astian
great
09:52
andrew_levine
;-)
09:52
se6astian
you can subscribe to projects/tasks you are interested in
09:52
andrew_levine
OK
09:52
se6astian
and will get email notification in case anything in that task/project happens
09:53
se6astian
you can of course also help with the task itself
10:04
davidak_
some days ago i was thinking what is needed to shoot underwater with the axiom...
10:04
davidak_
but i think better to wait for the final design
10:05
davidak_
it would need a housing where all that stuff fits in, like recorder/display, lens and some way to trigger recording
10:05
davidak_
that housing would be bigger, so a lot of air is inside
10:10
se6astian
yes, better to wait a bit with that :)
10:14
davidak_
is there a place where you collect ideas to still capture?
10:15
andrew_levine
BTW, have you had contact with any manufacturer of audio components?
10:16
se6astian
no
10:16
se6astian
what would we ask them?
10:16
davidak_
what about a trigger button on the hardware?
10:17
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10:18
andrew_levine
I know the Beta does not have any audio in/out currently, but since it is a modular solution it might be interesting to interface with a potential collaborator.
10:18
andrew_levine
On the road to the gamme ;-)
10:18
andrew_levine
"Gamma"
10:20
andrew_levine
I've been beta-testing and working with Metric Halo hardware for a few years. http://mhlabs.com/ Great little company IMHO.
10:21
andrew_levine
The lead developer BJ Buchalter is very accessible and has done some amazing stuff in the past.
10:22
Bertl
so maybe get him here on IRC, if he is interested in contributing to open hardware
10:22
andrew_levine
I'll let him know.
10:24
se6astian
audio hardware makes sense as soon as we can do internal recording
10:24
se6astian
until then where would any audio be saved to?
10:24
se6astian
davidak_: what do you mean with a "trigger button"?
10:25
andrew_levine
Sure, I know sebastian.
10:26
andrew_levine
Clocking and sync would be interesting too, not only audio capture.
10:27
andrew_levine
Currently the recorder will take care of that.
10:28
andrew_levine
Off to walk the dog. bb
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10:47
davidak_
se6astian: like a point and shoot photocamera has
10:47
Bertl
will be possible via the GPIO shield
10:54
davidak_
so its not planned for the design of the axiom boddy?
10:56
Bertl
there won't be just one design for the body
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se6astian
so you mean a shutter release button, please add it to the wishlist on lab.apertus.org
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se6astian
bbl
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se6astian
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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Bertl
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Rebotnix_Gary
Hi all
14:22
Rebotnix_Gary
are you guys beta-backer for the apertus camera?
14:26
mars_
some are, but it's also channel where the developers are
14:26
mars_
+the
14:27
Rebotnix_Gary
i see. i´m also a developer for wireless video system and i´m thinking to make an addon for HD over OFDM or COFDM modulation
14:27
Rebotnix_Gary
i would like to share some ideas..i back yesterday on indiego
14:28
Rebotnix_Gary
and i really like the idea of the project
14:28
Rebotnix_Gary
the question i´m asking myself if uncompressed or compressed transmission makes sense
14:28
Rebotnix_Gary
uncompressed give better quality, compressed better range and its gives a way for IP access as well
14:30
Rebotnix_Gary
i would also like to know if the processing power is fast enough for implementing some other codecs then h.264 or prores. i´m a big fan of hevc and have some prototypes ready to show.
14:30
Rebotnix_Gary
a good example (its not spam, just a technical demo) is on my project site: http://hevcp.com
14:30
danieel
Gary, how does your units compare to e.g. Cobham?
14:31
Rebotnix_Gary
cobham is the king of COFDM, i think the biggest compare is size
14:31
Rebotnix_Gary
when you take a look at NANO from cobham, its really great
14:31
danieel
yes, i was thinking of that
14:31
Rebotnix_Gary
from the quality, i would like to say that our small company can beat
14:31
Rebotnix_Gary
cobham
14:31
Rebotnix_Gary
also from the point of price :)
14:32
Rebotnix_Gary
i would like to bring the COFDM to the IP world
14:32
mars_
Rebotnix_Gary: for technical questions regarding the beta, you should talk to Bertl_oO (he is sleeping right now i think)
14:32
danieel
where are you at? half or tenth of the Nano price?
14:32
danieel
IP you mean usual wifi?
14:32
Rebotnix_Gary
currently we only design some prototypes, yes half price is realstic
14:32
Rebotnix_Gary
IP = WIFI yes..
14:32
Rebotnix_Gary
but also here with 900mhz modulators you can extend wifi a lot in a mesh for example
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Rebotnix_Gary
which is complicated with COFDM
14:32
Rebotnix_Gary
also licenses is a big problem
14:33
Rebotnix_Gary
when you use licensed bands..
14:33
Rebotnix_Gary
but..i think some addons for apertus makes sense
14:33
Rebotnix_Gary
make a low cost wifi with latency <100ms
14:33
Rebotnix_Gary
and a ios decoder that decodes 1080p on the GPU? what you think?
14:34
Rebotnix_Gary
ok.. i will come from time to time
14:34
Rebotnix_Gary
and it would be nice when we can share some ideas..
14:36
mars_
there is a website for sharing ideas: http://lab.apertus.org/
14:37
mars_
and you can follow/participate in the dev process
14:37
Rebotnix_Gary
thank mars
14:37
mars_
you are welcoe
14:37
mars_
+m
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Bertl_oO
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Bertl
back now ...
14:52
Bertl
hey Rebotnix_Gary!
14:59
Rebotnix_Gary
hi bert1
15:00
Rebotnix_Gary
i´m very sorry, i have to catch my kids from scool and will come back for sure...
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Bertl
no problem
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philippej
This hevcp is very interesting !
15:17
philippej
... if the codec is poen source
15:17
philippej
(open)
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intracube
philippej: HEVC is far from open src
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intracube
it looks like licensing could be more complex than h.264
15:42
philippej
looks like, I looked a bit more closely
15:42
intracube
3rd section: http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/Editorial/Featured-Articles/The-Future-of-HEVC-Its-Coming-but-with-Plenty-of-Questions-89010.aspx
15:42
philippej
too bad
15:42
intracube
yep
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intracube
but there's nothing to stop companies making proprietary addons for the Beta/Gamma cameras
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
back
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Bertl
wb
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se6astian
thanks :)
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troy_s
greets all.
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Bertl
hey troy_s!
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troy_s
Bertl: Greets B.
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dark_ata
hello
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Bertl
welcome dark_ata!
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intracube
evening dark_ata, troy_s, Bertl
20:06
intracube
eh, and I was trying to list names alphabetically too o.O
20:06
intracube
moar coffee
20:06
Bertl
well, close, but no banana :)
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Rebelj12a
Free icons! Really need to login to lab.Apertus and start things.
20:18
Rebelj12a
http://gizmodo.com/google-just-released-hundreds-of-cool-icons-that-you-ca-1648797992?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_facebook&utm_source=gizmodo_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
20:18
Rebelj12a
Oh god
20:18
Rebelj12a
https://github.com/google/material-design-icons/releases/tag/1.0.0
20:18
Rebelj12a
There
20:18
Rebelj12a
Google is a big corporation yet google is a prominent supporter of open source. Go google.
20:21
Bertl
yes, indeed, thanks to larry :)
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Rebelj12a
I almost won the stock exchange game back in high school. Well if I didn't listen to the group and invest in one stock which I thought was a dead drag anchor stock. We would've won. It still kills me, back in 2001 I told my parents wanted to invest in stock. I told them google. They said, well my parents stock broker said we should invest in green energy. If I find this man, I will hunt him down I swear.
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Rebelj12a
Oy heading to the office talk to you guys later.
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se6astian
time for bed
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se6astian
good night!
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Bertl
wb comradekingu!
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comradekingu
not sure if bot, or just happy to see me
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Bertl
I'm a bot, but a smart one :)
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comradekingu
unless...