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| 18:41 | troy_s | Greets all.
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| 19:10 | Bertl | hey troy_s! how's going?
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| 19:11 | troy_s | Bertl: Busy. You?
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| 19:14 | Bertl | Busy as well, as you probably read we have a lot of Beta preparations going on already
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| 20:43 | danieel | troy_s: transfer curve question... should a histogram be purely raw/linear, or accounting for transfer curve? (I would say color matrix is not desired here, as it is for correct exposure)
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| 20:44 | troy_s | danieel: Greets!
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| 20:45 | troy_s | danieel: A histogram is more of a statistical question, and it is an interesting one. I guess the best answer is that it depends?
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| 20:45 | troy_s | I suppose the question is really “What is the artist looking for when they are looking at a histogram?”
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| 20:46 | danieel | what is your preference? :) looking at raw ones, they tend to group on left... as 1 bit ~ 1 step occupies the whole right half
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| 20:46 | troy_s | And the intensity is, as odd as it sounds, not really the information conveyed in a histogram.
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| 20:46 | troy_s | danieel: When I use a histogram, it is usually in field.
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| 20:47 | troy_s | And I am specifically looking at the distribution of values to see if they are getting too close to the display referred maximums where the colors will suffer most serious crosstalk / spill, or too low where they are buried in fpn etc.
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| 20:48 | danieel | so then we should scale it nonlinearly, to make the x asis as linear exposure steps ?
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| 20:48 | troy_s | So for me (context) histograms are useful as a min (left) to max (right) (cultural note, possible design consideration here) distribution of values
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| 20:48 | troy_s | I personally would be able to read either
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| 20:48 | troy_s | Most are perceptual
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| 20:48 | troy_s | In my experience
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| 20:49 | troy_s | But linear can have use too, especially on the high end.
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| 20:49 | danieel | okay. so as long as one is used to the way we present, they will handle
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| 20:49 | troy_s | (Obviously harder to read the lower end using linearized values)
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| 20:49 | troy_s | Might be a great option?
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| 20:49 | danieel | yes, that is why I have asked
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| 20:49 | troy_s | Log versus linear
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| 20:50 | troy_s | I always try to defer design questions back to the audience. Who is your audience? If you answer that, you can at least make good guesses as to usefulness.
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| 20:51 | danieel | it is on the camera.. so the one looking at would be the dop or the assistant?
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| 21:04 | troy_s | DoP or DIT.
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| 21:06 | danieel | ah, okay... now I think i get what is DIT for... to check if the video clips :)
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| 21:07 | troy_s | Well they can handle more or less.
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| 21:07 | troy_s | And offer up issues.
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| 22:31 | se6astian | still watching football though :)
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