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| 17:57 | RexOrCine | MichaelH - Anything else inbound?
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| 17:58 | MichaelH | Currently im checking the measures in the models for the visualizations, i think there were some scaling issues
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| 18:07 | RexOrCine | I'm not sure about the use of Arri lenses as a constant, or rather, it would be good to employ a constant, and I'm not convinced that Arri would be the best move in this respect. So while that issue is being thought about I would just keep it...
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| 18:08 | RexOrCine | ... in mind when thinking about spending time on lens work.
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| 18:13 | MichaelH | The Arri Lens has a front diameter of 95 mm
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| 18:13 | MichaelH | axiom Body has a hight of 86mm
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| 18:14 | MichaelH | E-mount has a outer diameter of 46mm
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| 18:17 | RexOrCine | Understood. This comes down to the potential for advertising another camera manufacturer. I wouldn't like to come back saying "Yeah we've decided not to use Arri in promo" after you'd spent a lot of time getting the look just right, see what I mean?
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| 18:18 | MichaelH | Yes of course, but i think its important to show real scale units, otherwise some people could get the wrong idea
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| 18:19 | MichaelH | Also I think the mount i visualized have also the wrong diameter for the e mount
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| 18:20 | RexOrCine | Right.
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| 18:21 | MichaelH | https://lab.apertus.org/file/data/wustcjhzmqk7ow3btrdm/PHID-FILE-wqewgeiyf5w2um6hgvsp/Scales.jpg
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| 18:21 | MichaelH | This is the problem I'm having right now :)
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| 18:23 | MichaelH | wrong file
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| 18:23 | MichaelH | https://lab.apertus.org/file/data/smlkehorbonwqj2u6hwf/PHID-FILE-5o3e6rrm5ckmgm5i5elo/Scales.jpg
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| 18:23 | RexOrCine | I wonder if you could get around it by including a cheeseplate maybe?
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| 18:25 | MichaelH | Yes I also thought about it, get this thing on a kind of a rig. but i have the fear that it will have too much visual noise and camera isn't in focus anymore
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| 18:26 | MichaelH | maybe just create another lens that would fit and also have an e-mount so we don't need to show an adaptor
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| 18:26 | RexOrCine | eg http://hdvideoshop.com/529-home_default/smallrig-cheese-plate-multi-purpose-mounting-plate-.jpg
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| 18:27 | BAndiT1983 | you could create a cheese plate or simple rif as silhouette/shadow, so the camera stands out
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| 18:27 | BAndiT1983 | *rig
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| 18:28 | RexOrCine | Precisely. This is what I mean though, the lens is of secondary importance really. However, and like I say I'd rather we knew precisely what lens brand we might use generally in promo, Tokina seem like a good fit. We'd probably need a few days...
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| 18:29 | RexOrCine | ... or discussion/interaction in order to settle on a particular brand.
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| 18:29 | RexOrCine | of discussion*
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| 18:30 | MichaelH | or just create generic lens, remove the logos of brand etc
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| 18:31 | MichaelH | But I'm not shure if this would be a good idea
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| 18:31 | RexOrCine | Well it would be good to get a relationship forming. I'm in the process of paving the way for that now but it'll likely take a few days.
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| 18:31 | BAndiT1983 | generic lens is a way to go at the moment
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| 18:32 | BAndiT1983 | as you already have a model, which is easily reworkable for that
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| 18:33 | RexOrCine | Exactly. Just removing the logo would create the potential for problems with regards to intellectual property.
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| 18:33 | BAndiT1983 | one thing which i mentioned yesterday, but it disappeared in chat somewhere, the knobs should be a little bit smaller and a little bit more round
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| 18:33 | MichaelH | Yes Bandit, jus remove the arri from the texture and scale the lens a bit down, this should work for now.
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| 18:33 | RexOrCine | Yeah.
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| 18:33 | BAndiT1983 | what about the mount of the lens, is it custom or arri one?
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| 18:34 | MichaelH | As long as the enclousre body is not ready, it isn't that important to get a real lens
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| 18:34 | MichaelH | the mount is custom, but i suggest just to remove it
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| 18:35 | MichaelH | and just pretend that the generic lens has an e mount
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| 18:36 | RexOrCine | It may actually be beneficial for me to have images of the camera with an Arri lens mounted, but all i was saying was, I wouldn't worry too much about being precise or spending too much time on the lens aspect.
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| 18:36 | RexOrCine | ... for now.
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| 18:38 | MichaelH | Of course we could also let it like it was, but i think if somebody realy have this lens and know how big it is, it maybe would be confusing if the body is bigger in the picture
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| 18:39 | BAndiT1983 | it's just the abscence of the rig which is irritating in the matter of relative sizes
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| 18:41 | BAndiT1983 | not what i was looking for, but also nice -> http://www.emp3d.com/data/articles/c7ae14dd-a197-4340-a922-1d1be26c583c/fisheyelenstute2.html
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| 18:42 | BAndiT1983 | was just searching for presentations of camera producers, to get an idea
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| 18:42 | BAndiT1983 | we need something like that, but inverted of course -> https://s3.amazonaws.com/lenspro-media-prod/product_img/2016/04/05/arri_alexa_mini-1.jpg.600x415_q85.jpg
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| 18:43 | BAndiT1983 | with much less details, just simplistic representation, so the people get the idea
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| 18:45 | MichaelH | ours would more look like this
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| 18:45 | MichaelH | https://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arri.com%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FKit-for-Blackmagic-Pocket-Camera_04.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arri.com%2Fcamera%2Fpro_camera_accessories%2Fproducts%2Fsuggested_kits%2Fblackmagic%2Fblackmagic_pocket_camera%2F%3Fnode_id%3D52fe7bb23baf673c1003761a&docid=2rREWuePyj6yXM&tbnid=80uN9L9F6zsrwM%3A&vet=1&w=1528&h=860&bih=944&biw=1680&q=blackmagic%20arri%20lens&ved=0ahUKEwi
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| 18:45 | MichaelH | T1Lec-aHSAhXMliwKHbE1D4s4yAEQMwgJKAcwBw&iact=mrc&uact=8#h=860&imgrc=80uN9L9F6zsrwM:&vet=1&w=1528
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| 18:45 | MichaelH | in scale
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| 18:45 | MichaelH | :D
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| 18:46 | BAndiT1983 | oha, hunting bitds with bazooka it seems ;)
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| 18:46 | BAndiT1983 | *birds
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| 18:47 | BAndiT1983 | what are the many screwholes for?
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| 18:47 | MichaelH | maybe just holes for weight reduction :)
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| 18:48 | BAndiT1983 | or for extending the features -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRC1y1xhIkI
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| 18:48 | BAndiT1983 | :D
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| 18:48 | BAndiT1983 | was just wondering, case there are screws all around on this thing
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| 18:48 | MichaelH | hahaha
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| 18:49 | BAndiT1983 | *cause, damn keyboard, maybe battery dies slowly
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| 19:02 | BAndiT1983 | this thing disturbs me more -> https://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arri.com%2Fuploads%2Fpics%2FKit-for-Blackmagic-Pocket-Camera_04.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arri.com%2Fcamera%2Fpro_camera_accessories%2Fproducts%2Fsuggested_kits%2Fblackmagic%2Fblackmagic_pocket_camera%2F%3Fnode_id%3D52fe7bb23baf673c1003761a&docid=2rREWuePyj6yXM&tbnid=80uN9L9F6zsrwM%3A&vet=1&w=1528&h=860&bih=944&biw=1680&q=blackmagic%20arri%20lens&ved=0ahUKEwi#
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| 19:02 | BAndiT1983 | h=860&imgdii=1WMBBTpQrKtDnM:&imgrc=80uN9L9F6zsrwM:&vet=1&w=1528
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| 19:03 | MichaelH | yes just looks to much
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| 19:05 | BAndiT1983 | but they have some nice pictures with different lenses -> https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera
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| 19:05 | RexOrCine | They're for attaching arms, for EVFs, ballast etc. https://lensvid.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/rig-side.jpg
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| 19:06 | BAndiT1983 | ah, good to know, i'm not deeply involved in film making, just doing post-processing and CGI for hobby film group, so my knowledge is rather limited in that area
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| 19:16 | MichaelH | https://grabcad.com/library/dslr-rig-15mm-rod-baseplate-mount-rail-support-for-follow-focus-mattebox-5d2-5d3-1
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| 19:16 | MichaelH | maybe just use something like this for now
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| 19:17 | BAndiT1983 | looks good
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| 19:18 | BAndiT1983 | oh, nice, they have 3d viewer embedded into page, very helpful
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| 19:18 | MichaelH | yes but im not shure how they are dealing with copyright
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| 19:20 | BAndiT1983 | hm, terms of use are saying that the author is responsible for the content
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| 19:20 | BAndiT1983 | The Website may also contain material that violates the privacy or publicity rights, or infringes the intellectual property and other proprietary rights, of third parties, or the downloading, copying or use of which is subject to additional terms and conditions, stated or unstated.
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| 19:23 | BAndiT1983 | CAD models from the GrabCAD Community free CAD Library are for private use only.
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| 19:23 | BAndiT1983 | This means for any commercial uses (like marketing, manufacturing, etc.) you need to ask the member who posted the model for extra permissions. Some examples of private use are educational self-directed learning, creating a concept design for internal use, etc. For non-commercial but public use, like sharing on social media or using a model that you render and post on GrabCAD, please attribute the author and link to the original model on GrabCAD.
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| 19:23 | MichaelH | okay if we use it we have to give credit as i understand
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| 19:24 | BAndiT1983 | maybe contacting the author would help, just as idea
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| 19:25 | BAndiT1983 | the model is nothing special, so i don't think that there would be much to it
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| 19:25 | MichaelH | would be too easy
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| 19:25 | MichaelH | :)
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| 19:25 | MichaelH | yes, wouldn't also be a big deal to model something like this
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| 19:25 | MichaelH | not such a big deal
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| 19:26 | BAndiT1983 | that was the thing, which i omitted from my answer ;) didn't want to bother you with modelling too much
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| 19:28 | BAndiT1983 | here the license is visible -> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2001653
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| 19:28 | BAndiT1983 | maybe we can find something at 3d printing archives
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| 19:48 | MichaelH | will think about it tomorrow, off to bed now, good night everyone
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