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2014/12/20

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aombk2
what is this thing the panasonic varicam35 camera has?
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aombk2
two native isos?
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aombk2
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aombk
thats a sensor thing or a sensor board etc. thing?
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Bertl
no idea
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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
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mars_
morning
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good day
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Bertl
off for now .. bbl
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Bertl
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intracube
hello
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intracube
what could be the causes of the FPN-like row noise on the cmv12000?
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intracube
from here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11787.msg129672#msg129672
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Topic
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se6astian
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se6astian
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Bertl_oO
intracube: not sure what exactly you are referring to?
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Bertl_oO
the noise in the second column looks like the dynamic noise from the bad voltage regulator inside the CMV12k
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Bertl_oO
this should be fixed in the next sensor frontend we build, as we now know that it exists and how to mitigate it
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intracube
Bertl_oO: yep, the second column
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intracube
"After subtracting two dark frames (taken at a few seconds one after another), the image still has a really strong row noise (visually similar to FPN, but it's not fixed - it changes every frame). This one is hard to correct. CMOSIS recommends using the optical black areas for this, but they are way too small"
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intracube
great to hear this has been resolved :)
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Bertl_oO
yes, I think 95% of that noise should not be present anymore
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Bertl_oO
but we'll see if we get there :)
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intracube
cool
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intracube
although as it says in that post, the images have been normalized, so even with the alpha cam, the effect appears far worse than it is
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intracube
"All graphs have brightness stretched... They show how uniform the noise is, not its magnitude."
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Bertl_oO
yes, of course, it makes sense to boost the range to see how the noise behaves
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intracube
right
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intracube
doesn't remember seeing the fluctuating row noise on the alpha footage
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intracube
only some residual (fixed) FPN
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Bertl_oO
it is noticeable in single frames
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Bertl_oO
you do not see it in a sequence as it changes from frame to frame (and it is rather subtle)
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Bertl_oO
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Sauron
Hola
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Sauron
hi
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Bertl
Hey, how's the eye?
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Sauron
its good
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Sauron
fucking frodo baggins
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Bertl
yaeh, PITA
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philippej
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Bertl
so what brings you here?
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Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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Bertl
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comradekingu
what do you think about calling the camera "servicable"?
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comradekingu
Most things only have user manuals, this is quite like a service manual thats extencive
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comradekingu
extensive
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se6astian
good idea
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
back now ...
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troy_s_
Bertl: I missed your discussion with intracube above. Are there new images or something?
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Bertl
no, not really, we just discussed the analysis alexML did
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intracube
troy_s_: you only missed two lines: "[16:08:21] <intracube> what could be the causes of the FPN-like row noise on the cmv12000?"
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intracube
"[16:08:32] <intracube> from here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=11787.msg129672#msg129672"
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intracube
troy_s_: or you could, you know, look at the irc logs :P
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troy_s_
Logs.
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troy_s_
I have a log for you.
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se6astian
good night
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intracube
o.O
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Bertl
intracube: yeah, I would be careful when he gets the big log :)
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intracube
unless it's a chocolate yule log
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intracube
then gimme :)
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troy_s_
shudders.
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intracube
troy_s: ?
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