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back now ...
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off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
morning folks!
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troy_s
Morn.
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intracube
I'm kind of surprised that more people weren't interested in a vertical body arrangement for the Beta
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intracube
(https://lab.apertus.org/V9)
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intracube
wouldn't it make a shoulder setup a fair bit more ergonomic?
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Bertl
maybe, but the Beta is already very small, so probably you can still make the case higher and call it 'vertical'?
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Bertl
also note that it should be rather straight forward to make the "rotating" PCB (if you really want one)
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Bertl
i.e. it doesn't need any electronic components, just four connectors and a lot of routing
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troy_s
intracube: Most folks are probably caught up in a haze of frenzy
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troy_s
DSLR form factors absolutely suck for shooting, hence the plethora of after market expensive bits that take the DSLR model and migrate it to a longer form factor.
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intracube
Bertl: yep, I can't visualise the size of the Beta
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intracube
Bertl: maybe later revisions of the Beta case/enclosure could have a tripod screw fixing on one of the sides
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intracube
to make it easy to mount vertically
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intracube
troy_s: it seems to be a trend
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intracube
having small camera heads where cage/rails come separately
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troy_s
It has a pattern of an art movement actually.
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intracube
maybe it makes sense for the wide range of uses people have these days
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intracube
like cam + quadcopter setups
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troy_s
DSLRs suddenly shoot motion pictures. Motion picture shooting then evolves to look like DSLRs.
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troy_s
Classic design goofballery.
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intracube
idk
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troy_s
It is always about context.
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troy_s
Sure there are cases where smaller / odd shape has a useful design context.
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troy_s
But there are also cases (and in this instance, a majority) where a particular form factor is accommodated by a different form.
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troy_s
(Head use, handheld, etc.)
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troy_s
Often overlooked is the fact that a head has a counterbalance mechanism. Longer is the only method to balance without adding rubbish tree weights etc.
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troy_s
So remote heads, O'Connor fluid heads, etc. Handheld same issue.
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troy_s
But alas... We are stuck in a malaise where asshattery heralds Utoipian design (hello Apple)
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intracube
troy_s: this setup looks rather front-heavy: http://blackmagicreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/blackmagic-production-camera-4k1.png
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troy_s
The term you are looking for is stupid.
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troy_s
Exactly
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intracube
or top heavy: or top heavy: http://videoandfilmmaker.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/blackmagic-production-camera-4k-3.jpg
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intracube
echo echo ...
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intracube
whereas this looks a lot more balanced: http://brainboxcameras.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Blackmagic-Camera.jpg
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intracube
potentially, anyway
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intracube
actually, the lens still looks a way forwards considering where the shoulder pad is
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intracube
anyway, this is off topic
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intracube: Generally why I tend to harp on about context.
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intracube: Too many voices that step to the table with a really busted up idea of what design is. When I was studying, we had it hammered in about context.
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(That includes historical context as well, because that plays a significant role. Even in cinema stuff, you have the context of being able to accomplish something within an existing historical context. Gear. Software. Etc.)
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comradekingu
I saw the latest talk very nice, curious about the 3d printer, maybe a feature on that could be added for the next talk.
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comradekingu
Is it possible for likeminded projects to borrow production-time on it?
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