#apertus IRC Channel Logs

off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!

hi all

*running

so if you want you can jump right in and pick one

so we don't all do the same thing at the same time

you can claim a task in the lab for example then its clear

BAndiT1983: is kind of in charge or making sure everything is structured well in subclasses and using interface classes etc.

metal_dent[m] and ashok_singh[m] are students who chose the remote as their project in google summer of code

hey, sorry, am working right now and haven't noticed new messages in the main channel

About me: I've been building stuff since I was a kid (furniture, carnival costumes, electronics) and it's still my main hobby to this day. I'm a software dev by day. I also enjoy cooking :)

1. Software development: I'm mostly a C/C++ person, but I can also help elsewhere when needed. I have a special interest towards the lower end of the stack, especially at the hardware/software interface. I also tinker with embedded systems for hobby-projects of mine.

3. Feedback on the mechanical design/ergonomics/user experience.

regarding 2. - you are welcome to solder the remote prototype as well, but its almost all SMT :)

and of course the remote UI and UX

banking, also backend (using java), but am coming from C/C++ since my teenage years

sure, one sec

check the 2 images after the title one

thanks

https://www.apertus.org/sites/default/files/AXIOM_Remote_PCB_Top_Aug_2018_f2f2f2_sm_0.png

oh boy :)

well, for the remote I can definitely manage the top and most of the bottom (if not all)

*solder

hahaha, yes exactly like that :)

now for the power board, I've soldered small components before (think 0603) but not at *that* amount.

connected to 230V

about to head out now to the supermarket

in 3h 45min

se6ast1an: sure, I'll join. I'll have a look at the dev tasks in the meantime

see you then!

panintended: if you have questions, ask them anytime, looking into the chat from time to time while working

sure thing, thanks :)

hi

this shows, that the python 5000 and the cmv 8000 are interesting candidates in their leagues

will you focus on a single sensor at first or do you want to support multiple?

10-20$ range?

who is here?

hello

please send me a direct message now if you want to report/share

Hi!

am here

jan, as first time guest at the meeting today would you like to start?

can you tell us a bit about what you have done already, what the current state is?

i've been contact with LexOptical

https://www.lexoptical.com/

e.g. it is emulating a lens and not a body.

so you have connected the aduino/teensy to the camera/lens?

code is not on github yet, once i have first successful tests i will do that.

question from my side: can we in parallel approach to get the sony e developer docs ? or was that tried already.

please specify what the "sony e developer docs" are

Bertl: i did not yet get the lens connect to the teensy in lack of them. but i ordered one at reichle and its here asap

se6ast1an: those: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201102/11-018E/

"These basic specifications will be disclosed to manufactures of lenses and mount adaptors following a predefined process of approval and the signing a license agreement with Sony."

but it probably doesn't hurt to ask ...

There will not be any license fees required for the license. However, a part of expenses related to distribution of the Basic Specifications will be charged to the applicant.

You may use the Basic Specifications for lenses and/or mount adopters to mount to Sony’s E-mount Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera only *2 , NOT for manufacturing, selling or otherwise disposing of other products.

I d say the chances of us doing and getting all that is 0.1%

Bertl: the 3.1V interface is on pin 5. my plan is do have a switchable relay and generate the 3.1V by downconverting that from 5V

schmoggie1: we should talk about that later :)

have a power meter connected and trying different lenses to see how much mA is needed

probably

https://www.ebay.de/itm/DC-DC-Buck-Converter-Adjustable-Mini-Step-Down-Module-1-5V-3V-3-3V-5V-9V-12V-3A-/322427170361?nma=true&si=EAOH%252BYqVfoxCSF2Li%252F6sqyAfEC4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

well, there are better options than this and/or relays

ideally a fixed voltage controllable there

as we need to switch the power on/off

next steps: - getting code for body emulation ,

- first tests as emulating body

great, anything else to add?

alright

several bugs were discovered and fixed, new ones appeared as well ;) but all in all it's working great

also debug painter was added to assist when placing elements in the UI, but it has a slight bug regarding inheritance from the painter

next steps will involved USB communication and retrieving the framebuffer data, so visualiser will work as remote control for the axiom remote, which would allow to use real hardware through SSH

another app will simulate the axiom beta, so the developers can focus on processing the received data and sending commands

Axiom Beta simulation with QEMU?

this would be too much for simple development, but also a step

most things are reflected already in the AXIOM Remote workboard: https://lab.apertus.org/project/view/18/

metal_dent[m]: would you like to continue as we are with the axiom remote topic already?

as usual not much to report, last week fixed the center align bug in the visualizer and presented on the AXIOM Beta and Remote as a part of gsoc challenge

very nice presentation I have to say :)

Bertl: thank you :D

Bertl: Thanks!

then decide who wants to claim it of you two

alright, will do it then :)

ah yes, also working on T1172!

ah, great, can you share already?

url please, we are all lazy here

please suggest any needed changes :)

looks good

but the background should not be there, as the buttons are providing the shape, so it should be transparent or fully white, nothing rounded

https://lab.apertus.org/file/data/twf2epvgi3azygwwyphj/PHID-FILE-y36lcbvqjtxxzs22e3x7/20181122_150504_HDR.jpg

yes, but this time we need it differently, as it will be handled centrally in the button

maybe something to discuss after the meeting in detail

panintended: you here?

vup/anuejn anything new on the Micro front?

great

bluez_[m]: please share your progress

I'm hoping to be of help firstly with the new firmware (as it's accessible because of the visualiser) and down the line with other things like remote prototype assembly if needed.

I've looked at the board today, and at first I could go with some of the unclaimed tasks (like https://lab.apertus.org/T1173) or maybe work as a pair with someone else to make the onboarding/familiarizing a bit easier

I also opened https://lab.apertus.org/T1181 earlier today after consulting with se6ast1an

http://irc.apertus.org/

bluez_[m]: feel free to report in parallel, we can handle it :)

Bertl: would you like report as well?

se6ast1an: sure

Alright! So, I don't have much to report. I was working mostly for the presentation of AXIOM Beta Main Board and AXIOM Remote as metal_dent mentioned. Other than that I've been reading more about my gsoc project. I looked into how JTAG works a bit more. Further, I will be working to learn more about the PIC16 JTAG bridge (as I've discussed with Bertl already).

so to continue here ... I spent some time this week with the GSoC applicants with further preparations for GSoC

(the idea there is to help with unterstanding the rather complex conenctions there)

I also did a lot of rework and almost finished an Axiom Remot

the sperrmüll?

ah yes please share some ultra96 insights!

well, it seems like we have two PS MGTs directly available on the mini DP port

as far as I understand, those can do up to 6GBit/s each (receive and transmit)

PS is the Processing System side of the UltraScale

DP stands for Display Port

so it looks like we could repurpose those for things like SATA 6G and PCIe

nope, that won't work

requires 4 lanes?

but displayport does video output no?

yes, DP is implemented as dual lane solution in and out

and the display port hardened IP can process two video streams and mix them together

it also provides DMA engines to fetch data, e.g. for overlay

there also seems to be a quite nice PMIC system on the Ultra96 which already gave me some ideas for a future Power Board revision

so it should be relatively easy to connect it directly to a dual plugin slot on the Axiom Beta

amazon order should arrive any day now

any news on the probing project?

ah sorry, right

I've also been digging out the test boards for the SD emulation

so we should have some ideas there as well

that's it from my side

vup & anuejn you here now?

quick update from my side: mostly AXIOM Remote related tasks recently, not really anything to add to that other than what was already said

Guys I noticed you mentioned the Ultra96. Do you know that you can get in touch with the 96Boards team if needed? They also have a weekly online meetup (https://www.96boards.org/openhours/)

panintended: you also mentioned CAD and ergonomics so help there would be greatly appreciated

very nice indeed

500$ for 5 panels seems to be realistic for our stackup from asia

se6ast1an: yes, actually it's a specification :)

schmoggie1: we should chat about the electronics side, when would be a good time for you?

sound good to me!

off for now ... bbl