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| 07:56 | se6astian | good day
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| 11:00 | Bertl_oO | | 11:00 | Bertl_oO | | 11:01 | Bertl_oO | hey kelly! how's going?
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| 11:09 | kelly | Hey Herbert! Everything is setup for the test. Would you be available around 13pm ?
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| 11:12 | Bertl_oO | having a hard time parsind 13pm :)
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| 11:12 | Bertl_oO | *parsing
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| 11:12 | Bertl_oO | but I will be around for some time
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| 12:16 | kelly | Ok, tell us then when it will be the best moment for you , thanks !
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| 12:16 | Bertl_oO | now :)
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| 12:16 | Bertl_oO | what equippment did you get?
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| 12:17 | Bertl_oO | *equipment
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| 12:17 | kelly | benchtop powersupply
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| 12:18 | kelly | and ceramic screw driver
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| 12:18 | kelly | voltmeter
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| 12:18 | Bertl_oO | good, got the cables to connect it?
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| 12:18 | kelly | yes also
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| 12:19 | Bertl_oO | maybe take a quick snapshot what you've got and upload it to imgur.com or so
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| 12:19 | kelly | ok :)
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| 12:23 | kelly | do you want to work with webcam?
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| 12:23 | kelly | would it be convenient ?
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| 12:24 | kelly | photos are sent through mail
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| 12:25 | Bertl_oO | there is a reason why I suggested an image upload service, it makes things a lot faster
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| 12:26 | kelly | ok
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| 12:29 | Bertl_oO | okay, looks reasonably good on the power supply side
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| 12:29 | Bertl_oO | have you got some connetors to probe the headers?
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| 12:30 | Bertl_oO | (don't see anything suitable on the images)
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| 12:32 | Bertl_oO | *connectors
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| 12:33 | kelly | me made something to connect
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| 12:33 | kelly | what do you call header
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| 12:33 | kelly | https://imgur.com/a/Ck23j2S
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| 12:34 | kelly | ?
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| 12:34 | Bertl_oO | https://wiki.apertus.org/images/f/f4/BetaPowerBoard_0.18_TOP.jpg
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| 12:35 | Bertl_oO | okay, check out this (old) power board, you see the eight holes in each corner
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| 12:35 | Bertl_oO | ?
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| 12:38 | kelly | https://imgur.com/a/FjvP0Ta
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| 12:38 | kelly | ok yes we see it
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| 12:40 | Bertl_oO | you need to probe through two of those holes into the power board headers
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| 12:40 | kelly | okk, we understand better now thanks
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| 12:40 | Bertl_oO | for that you need something like the golden pins on the interface board
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| 12:41 | Bertl_oO | but they do not need to be that long, so a 'normal' 2.54mm pin header will do nicely
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| 12:42 | Bertl_oO | you want to probe the leftmost pair on the top right header
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| 12:42 | Bertl_oO | i.e. the one right beside the 'NE' label
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| 12:44 | kelly | ok the pair is one "hole" from the top line and one from the bottom line ? (still the leftmost)
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| 12:45 | Bertl_oO | sec, I'll draw you a picture
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| 12:47 | kelly | https://imgur.com/a/SJNwigO
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| 12:49 | kelly | like this ?
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| 12:51 | Bertl_oO | https://imgur.com/a/SDdW4GF
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| 12:51 | kelly | thanks
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| 12:52 | Bertl_oO | be careful that the 'cables' or whatever you stick in there do not go too far in
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| 12:52 | Bertl_oO | otherwise they will touch the MicroZed and potentially destroy stuff
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| 12:52 | Bertl_oO | as I said, a typical 2.54mm header would be best
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| 12:53 | kelly | yes, we are not in contact with the MicroZed card
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| 12:53 | Bertl_oO | https://a.pololu-files.com/picture/0J6427.600x480.jpg
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| 12:54 | Bertl_oO | anyway, you need to power up the MicroZed and logon to the device to enable and check the voltages/settings and
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| 12:54 | Bertl_oO | the first step is to limit your bench top power supply to 3A and set it to 5V
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| 12:54 | Bertl_oO | then power the two boards and check the power consumption given by the bench-top supply
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| 12:55 | Bertl_oO | compar that with the reading from ./pac1720_info.sh
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| 12:55 | Bertl_oO | (voltage and current)
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| 12:59 | kelly | 5V 492mA on benctop
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| 13:01 | kelly | https://pastebin.com/D9KQcAnJ
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| 13:02 | Bertl_oO | good that looks perfect
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| 13:02 | Bertl_oO | okay, now let's power up the rails
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| 13:02 | Bertl_oO | ./power_init.sh
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| 13:03 | Bertl_oO | ./gpio.py init
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| 13:03 | Bertl_oO | ./power_on.sh
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| 13:03 | Bertl_oO | check again with the benchtop and ./pac1720_info.sh
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| 13:03 | Bertl_oO | also measure the output of the pin header pair with the multimeter
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| 13:05 | kelly | https://pastebin.com/q3d4fvBA
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| 13:05 | kelly | 494mA on benchtop
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| 13:06 | kelly | 1.90V on the pair
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| 13:08 | Bertl_oO | do you happen to have an electronic load at hand as well?
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| 13:09 | Bertl_oO | or maybe just a power resistor to stress the rail a little bit?
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| 13:10 | kelly | what do you means ?
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| 13:12 | kelly | giving more power? or add an extra benchtop powersupply?
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| 13:16 | Bertl_oO | no, what I mean is to put some stress (i.e. draw some power) from the rail
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| 13:16 | Bertl_oO | (the one you are measuring right now)
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| 13:17 | Bertl_oO | in any case, we can do without, but it might provide some insight
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| 13:18 | kelly | how do you do that? practicaly speaking?
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| 13:18 | Bertl_oO | well, as I said, one option is to use an electronic load
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| 13:19 | Bertl_oO | another option is to use a power resistor, e.g. something with 50Ohm and 10W or so
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| 13:19 | Bertl_oO | anyway, if you do not have any of those at hand, let's just re-adjust the rail and see how that goes with the stack
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| 13:20 | kelly | ok
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| 13:20 | kelly | let's jump on the next option because we don't have extra electronic load at hand
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| 13:20 | Bertl_oO | the trimmer can be turned 360° so there is no end or beginning per se
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| 13:21 | Bertl_oO | when you turn the trimmer, the voltage on the rail will start changing (multimeter)
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| 13:21 | Bertl_oO | you want to make sure only to adjust this specific rail (i.e. the N_VN trimmer)
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| 13:22 | Bertl_oO | you also want to turn it one complete 360° turn around to make sure the electric contact ist good
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| 13:22 | kelly | ok
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| 13:22 | Bertl_oO | then try to adjust it as good as possible to 1.9V again
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| 13:22 | kelly | wich trimmer is the one corresponding to the N_VN ?
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| 13:23 | kelly | TR3
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| 13:23 | kelly | ?
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| 13:23 | Bertl_oO | the one I marked on the picture (TR3 :)
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| 13:24 | kelly | yes, sorry we just re-saw the picture after the question :)
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| 13:27 | kelly | 360°
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| 13:27 | kelly | clockwise
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| 13:28 | kelly | now 2,2v
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| 13:29 | kelly | we passed through a maximum voltage of 3v
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| 13:30 | kelly | starting position 1,8v, then 90° 1,6v, then 90° 3v, the 180° initial position 2,2v
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| 13:31 | kelly | We forgot to tell you, yesturday, when we stoped with the camera, the sensor was very hot.. i almost burnt my finger touching it
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| 13:33 | Bertl_oO | that is unusual and might point towards a defective sensor
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| 13:33 | Bertl_oO | anyway, you need to adjust the trimmer till you reach 1.9V
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| 13:34 | Bertl_oO | it can be tricky as the range is quite small
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| 13:34 | Bertl_oO | just turn very slowly and watch the multimeter
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| 13:35 | kelly | ok, back to 1,9
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| 13:37 | kelly | how can i check if the sensor is defective?
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| 13:38 | Bertl_oO | that's always tricky
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| 13:38 | kelly | I don't have any spare sensor
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| 13:38 | kelly | if yes, i would test with another one
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| 13:39 | Bertl_oO | okay, let's do some more tests on the power board just to make sure
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| 13:39 | kelly | ok
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| 13:46 | Bertl_oO | okay, let's put the stack back together and see what we get
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| 13:47 | Bertl_oO | also double check that the sensor is inserted the right way around and in the right position
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| 13:48 | Bertl_oO | double check that the interface board is facing up (i.e. the arrows point towards the top of the camera)
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| 13:48 | kelly | ok, we put all back + the sensor ?
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| 13:48 | Bertl_oO | yes, including the sensor, let's see what we get on the power rail
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| 13:57 | kelly | ok, everything is back together and the power is on
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| 13:59 | Bertl_oO | good, let's start simple with
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| 13:59 | Bertl_oO | ./power_init.sh
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| 13:59 | Bertl_oO | ./gpio.py init
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| 13:59 | Bertl_oO | ./power_on.sh
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| 13:59 | Bertl_oO | sleep 5
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| 13:59 | Bertl_oO | ./pac1720_info.sh
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| 14:00 | Bertl_oO | also check if the sensor is getting hot fast
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| 14:00 | kelly | https://pastebin.com/LLVwHzTA
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| 14:00 | kelly | ok
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| 14:00 | Bertl_oO | so the LVDS voltage looks fine now
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| 14:01 | Bertl_oO | let's continue with:
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| 14:01 | kelly | good news already
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| 14:01 | Bertl_oO | cat cmv_hdmi3.bit >/dev/xdevcfg
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| 14:01 | Bertl_oO | sleep 5
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| 14:01 | Bertl_oO | ./pac1720_info.sh
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| 14:02 | kelly | https://pastebin.com/yU5tWkgA
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| 14:02 | Bertl_oO | still looking good, what about
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| 14:02 | kelly | (sensor normally hot for now)
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| 14:02 | Bertl_oO | ./cmv_init.sh
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| 14:03 | Bertl_oO | what's the return value you get?
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| 14:03 | kelly | still 0x00000000
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| 14:03 | Bertl_oO | too bad, would have been nice
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| 14:03 | Bertl_oO | what about
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| 14:03 | kelly | yes...
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| 14:03 | Bertl_oO | ./pac1720_info.sh
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| 14:04 | kelly | https://pastebin.com/XweTQHaJ
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| 14:05 | Bertl_oO | okay, let's reboot the Beta and give the kick_manual a try
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| 14:05 | Bertl_oO | ./kick_manual.sh
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| 14:05 | kelly | reboot just with power off/power on ?
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| 14:06 | Bertl_oO | yeah, that's fine
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| 14:07 | kelly | (also, do you know why a password is asked now when we try to connect with ssh ? or if you know the password ?)
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| 14:07 | Bertl_oO | you need to add your ssh key to the Beta to logon via ssh
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| 14:08 | Bertl_oO | i.e. password access is disabled by default
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| 14:08 | Bertl_oO | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/AXIOM_Beta/Manual
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| 14:08 | kelly | i already added the key, it worked yesterday but not anymore today, even if the key is still in the authorized_key file
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| 14:09 | kelly | the ./kick_manual.sh does the same as before
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| 14:09 | kelly | the loop
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| 14:09 | Bertl_oO | that is unusual, but check the authorized_key file
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| 14:09 | Bertl_oO | the permissions on the key file that is
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| 14:09 | Bertl_oO | can you pastebin part of the loop for me?
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| 14:10 | Bertl_oO | still everything zero there?
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| 14:10 | kelly | yes still zero
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| 14:10 | Bertl_oO | okay, so the next step would be to use a logic analyzer or scope to verify the SPI interface on the sensor socket
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| 14:11 | Bertl_oO | but it might be easier to send us the camera including sensor for general testing, as we have all the equippment needed including loopback adapters
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| 14:12 | Bertl_oO | *eqipment
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| 14:12 | Bertl_oO | we also can test the sensor in a known working stak and the stack with a known good sensor
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| 14:13 | kelly | https://pastebin.com/9FeZTmsP
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| 14:13 | kelly | for the loop
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| 14:15 | kelly | Yes, indeed, that's exactly the thing we were thinking about, it might be easier to send it to you
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| 14:19 | Bertl_oO | okay, let me know what you decide, and when you go for shipping it, let me know so that I can give you my address to speed up things
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| 14:21 | kelly | we may ship asap, if it's not this afternoon, it might be monday morning max
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| 14:23 | Bertl_oO | okay, I send you my postal address via email then
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| 14:34 | kelly | Thanks a lot
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| 14:34 | kelly | (the sensor was really hot at the end)
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| 14:35 | kelly | it's too late to ship it now so it'll be for monday morning
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| 14:41 | Bertl_oO | okay
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| 14:47 | kelly | Thanks a lot again, keep in touch for monday
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| 14:47 | Bertl_oO | you're welcome!
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| 14:47 | Bertl_oO | cya around!
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| 14:47 | kelly | Bye !
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| 15:25 | rahul_ | Hello @Bertl
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| 15:27 | se6astian | Hi rahul_!
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| 15:27 | se6astian | how are you?
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| 15:32 | se6astian | hi AbsentFilms_
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| 15:32 | se6astian | just saw your lab account registration
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| 16:09 | rahul_ | hello @sebastian @Bertl I am good, just started my Thesis.
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| 16:10 | Bertl_oO | great!
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| 16:11 | rahul_ | i again started looking into the placement of my peaking IP
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| 16:11 | rahul_ | and also wanted to discuss the partial reconfiguration project that we had discussed when I was in Vienna
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| 16:15 | se6astian | sounds good, Bertl_oO sounds like your man for this
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| 16:17 | Bertl_oO | sure, anytime I'm around ...
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| 16:28 | se6astian | rahul_: you meant you want to discuss it now didnt you?
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| 17:07 | rahul_ | yes
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| 17:08 | rahul_ | but i am not able to pm either @sabestian or @Bertl
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| 17:10 | se6astian|away | changed nick to: se6astian
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| 17:10 | se6astian | thats because your nickname isnt registred with freenode I assume and they stepped up measurements after the recent spam waves
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| 17:11 | se6astian | but you can discuss here
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| 17:11 | se6astian | or register your nick
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| 17:11 | se6astian | or choose a channelname of your choice and go there with Bertl_oO
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| 17:12 | rahul_ | ok
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