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2018/10/19

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se6astian
good day
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comradekingu
God dag :)
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RexOrCine
Slept in again?
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comradekingu
I was up slacking off work before work even began, so ummm
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Time is irrelevant with my level of dedication
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Yeah it's 9:30 am here, my bed time.
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Keep on clocking in the reee world
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Bertl_oO
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Bertl_oO
10:01
Bertl_oO
hey kelly! how's going?
10:09
kelly
Hey Herbert! Everything is setup for the test. Would you be available around 13pm ?
10:12
Bertl_oO
having a hard time parsind 13pm :)
10:12
Bertl_oO
*parsing
10:12
Bertl_oO
but I will be around for some time
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11:16
kelly
Ok, tell us then when it will be the best moment for you , thanks !
11:16
Bertl_oO
now :)
11:16
Bertl_oO
what equippment did you get?
11:17
Bertl_oO
*equipment
11:17
kelly
benchtop powersupply
11:18
kelly
and ceramic screw driver
11:18
kelly
voltmeter
11:18
Bertl_oO
good, got the cables to connect it?
11:18
kelly
yes also
11:19
Bertl_oO
maybe take a quick snapshot what you've got and upload it to imgur.com or so
11:19
kelly
ok :)
11:23
kelly
do you want to work with webcam?
11:23
kelly
would it be convenient ?
11:24
kelly
photos are sent through mail
11:25
Bertl_oO
there is a reason why I suggested an image upload service, it makes things a lot faster
11:26
kelly
ok
11:29
Bertl_oO
okay, looks reasonably good on the power supply side
11:29
Bertl_oO
have you got some connetors to probe the headers?
11:30
Bertl_oO
(don't see anything suitable on the images)
11:32
Bertl_oO
*connectors
11:33
kelly
me made something to connect
11:33
kelly
what do you call header
11:33
kelly
https://imgur.com/a/Ck23j2S
11:34
kelly
?
11:34
Bertl_oO
https://wiki.apertus.org/images/f/f4/BetaPowerBoard_0.18_TOP.jpg
11:35
Bertl_oO
okay, check out this (old) power board, you see the eight holes in each corner
11:35
Bertl_oO
?
11:38
kelly
https://imgur.com/a/FjvP0Ta
11:38
kelly
ok yes we see it
11:40
Bertl_oO
you need to probe through two of those holes into the power board headers
11:40
kelly
okk, we understand better now thanks
11:40
Bertl_oO
for that you need something like the golden pins on the interface board
11:41
Bertl_oO
but they do not need to be that long, so a 'normal' 2.54mm pin header will do nicely
11:42
Bertl_oO
you want to probe the leftmost pair on the top right header
11:42
Bertl_oO
i.e. the one right beside the 'NE' label
11:44
kelly
ok the pair is one "hole" from the top line and one from the bottom line ? (still the leftmost)
11:45
Bertl_oO
sec, I'll draw you a picture
11:47
kelly
https://imgur.com/a/SJNwigO
11:49
kelly
like this ?
11:51
Bertl_oO
https://imgur.com/a/SDdW4GF
11:51
kelly
thanks
11:52
Bertl_oO
be careful that the 'cables' or whatever you stick in there do not go too far in
11:52
Bertl_oO
otherwise they will touch the MicroZed and potentially destroy stuff
11:52
Bertl_oO
as I said, a typical 2.54mm header would be best
11:53
kelly
yes, we are not in contact with the MicroZed card
11:53
Bertl_oO
https://a.pololu-files.com/picture/0J6427.600x480.jpg
11:54
Bertl_oO
anyway, you need to power up the MicroZed and logon to the device to enable and check the voltages/settings and
11:54
Bertl_oO
the first step is to limit your bench top power supply to 3A and set it to 5V
11:54
Bertl_oO
then power the two boards and check the power consumption given by the bench-top supply
11:55
Bertl_oO
compar that with the reading from ./pac1720_info.sh
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Bertl_oO
(voltage and current)
11:59
kelly
5V 492mA on benctop
12:01
kelly
https://pastebin.com/D9KQcAnJ
12:02
Bertl_oO
good that looks perfect
12:02
Bertl_oO
okay, now let's power up the rails
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Bertl_oO
./power_init.sh
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Bertl_oO
./gpio.py init
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Bertl_oO
./power_on.sh
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Bertl_oO
check again with the benchtop and ./pac1720_info.sh
12:03
Bertl_oO
also measure the output of the pin header pair with the multimeter
12:05
kelly
https://pastebin.com/q3d4fvBA
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kelly
494mA on benchtop
12:06
kelly
1.90V on the pair
12:08
Bertl_oO
do you happen to have an electronic load at hand as well?
12:09
Bertl_oO
or maybe just a power resistor to stress the rail a little bit?
12:10
kelly
what do you means ?
12:12
kelly
giving more power? or add an extra benchtop powersupply?
12:16
Bertl_oO
no, what I mean is to put some stress (i.e. draw some power) from the rail
12:16
Bertl_oO
(the one you are measuring right now)
12:17
Bertl_oO
in any case, we can do without, but it might provide some insight
12:18
kelly
how do you do that? practicaly speaking?
12:18
Bertl_oO
well, as I said, one option is to use an electronic load
12:19
Bertl_oO
another option is to use a power resistor, e.g. something with 50Ohm and 10W or so
12:19
Bertl_oO
anyway, if you do not have any of those at hand, let's just re-adjust the rail and see how that goes with the stack
12:20
kelly
ok
12:20
kelly
let's jump on the next option because we don't have extra electronic load at hand
12:20
Bertl_oO
the trimmer can be turned 360° so there is no end or beginning per se
12:21
Bertl_oO
when you turn the trimmer, the voltage on the rail will start changing (multimeter)
12:21
Bertl_oO
you want to make sure only to adjust this specific rail (i.e. the N_VN trimmer)
12:22
Bertl_oO
you also want to turn it one complete 360° turn around to make sure the electric contact ist good
12:22
kelly
ok
12:22
Bertl_oO
then try to adjust it as good as possible to 1.9V again
12:22
kelly
wich trimmer is the one corresponding to the N_VN ?
12:23
kelly
TR3
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kelly
?
12:23
Bertl_oO
the one I marked on the picture (TR3 :)
12:24
kelly
yes, sorry we just re-saw the picture after the question :)
12:27
kelly
360°
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kelly
clockwise
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kelly
now 2,2v
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kelly
we passed through a maximum voltage of 3v
12:30
kelly
starting position 1,8v, then 90° 1,6v, then 90° 3v, the 180° initial position 2,2v
12:31
kelly
We forgot to tell you, yesturday, when we stoped with the camera, the sensor was very hot.. i almost burnt my finger touching it
12:33
Bertl_oO
that is unusual and might point towards a defective sensor
12:33
Bertl_oO
anyway, you need to adjust the trimmer till you reach 1.9V
12:34
Bertl_oO
it can be tricky as the range is quite small
12:34
Bertl_oO
just turn very slowly and watch the multimeter
12:35
kelly
ok, back to 1,9
12:37
kelly
how can i check if the sensor is defective?
12:38
Bertl_oO
that's always tricky
12:38
kelly
I don't have any spare sensor
12:38
kelly
if yes, i would test with another one
12:39
Bertl_oO
okay, let's do some more tests on the power board just to make sure
12:39
kelly
ok
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Bertl_oO
okay, let's put the stack back together and see what we get
12:47
Bertl_oO
also double check that the sensor is inserted the right way around and in the right position
12:48
Bertl_oO
double check that the interface board is facing up (i.e. the arrows point towards the top of the camera)
12:48
kelly
ok, we put all back + the sensor ?
12:48
Bertl_oO
yes, including the sensor, let's see what we get on the power rail
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kelly
ok, everything is back together and the power is on
12:59
Bertl_oO
good, let's start simple with
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Bertl_oO
./power_init.sh
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Bertl_oO
./gpio.py init
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Bertl_oO
./power_on.sh
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Bertl_oO
sleep 5
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Bertl_oO
./pac1720_info.sh
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Bertl_oO
also check if the sensor is getting hot fast
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kelly
https://pastebin.com/LLVwHzTA
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kelly
ok
13:00
Bertl_oO
so the LVDS voltage looks fine now
13:01
Bertl_oO
let's continue with:
13:01
kelly
good news already
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Bertl_oO
cat cmv_hdmi3.bit >/dev/xdevcfg
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Bertl_oO
sleep 5
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Bertl_oO
./pac1720_info.sh
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kelly
https://pastebin.com/yU5tWkgA
13:02
Bertl_oO
still looking good, what about
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kelly
(sensor normally hot for now)
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Bertl_oO
./cmv_init.sh
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Bertl_oO
what's the return value you get?
13:03
kelly
still 0x00000000
13:03
Bertl_oO
too bad, would have been nice
13:03
Bertl_oO
what about
13:03
kelly
yes...
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Bertl_oO
./pac1720_info.sh
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kelly
https://pastebin.com/XweTQHaJ
13:05
Bertl_oO
okay, let's reboot the Beta and give the kick_manual a try
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Bertl_oO
./kick_manual.sh
13:05
kelly
reboot just with power off/power on ?
13:06
Bertl_oO
yeah, that's fine
13:07
kelly
(also, do you know why a password is asked now when we try to connect with ssh ? or if you know the password ?)
13:07
Bertl_oO
you need to add your ssh key to the Beta to logon via ssh
13:08
Bertl_oO
i.e. password access is disabled by default
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Bertl_oO
https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/AXIOM_Beta/Manual
13:08
kelly
i already added the key, it worked yesterday but not anymore today, even if the key is still in the authorized_key file
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kelly
the ./kick_manual.sh does the same as before
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kelly
the loop
13:09
Bertl_oO
that is unusual, but check the authorized_key file
13:09
Bertl_oO
the permissions on the key file that is
13:09
Bertl_oO
can you pastebin part of the loop for me?
13:10
Bertl_oO
still everything zero there?
13:10
kelly
yes still zero
13:10
Bertl_oO
okay, so the next step would be to use a logic analyzer or scope to verify the SPI interface on the sensor socket
13:11
Bertl_oO
but it might be easier to send us the camera including sensor for general testing, as we have all the equippment needed including loopback adapters
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Bertl_oO
*eqipment
13:12
Bertl_oO
we also can test the sensor in a known working stak and the stack with a known good sensor
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kelly
https://pastebin.com/9FeZTmsP
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kelly
for the loop
13:15
kelly
Yes, indeed, that's exactly the thing we were thinking about, it might be easier to send it to you
13:19
Bertl_oO
okay, let me know what you decide, and when you go for shipping it, let me know so that I can give you my address to speed up things
13:21
kelly
we may ship asap, if it's not this afternoon, it might be monday morning max
13:23
Bertl_oO
okay, I send you my postal address via email then
13:34
kelly
Thanks a lot
13:34
kelly
(the sensor was really hot at the end)
13:35
kelly
it's too late to ship it now so it'll be for monday morning
13:41
Bertl_oO
okay
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kelly
Thanks a lot again, keep in touch for monday
13:47
Bertl_oO
you're welcome!
13:47
Bertl_oO
cya around!
13:47
kelly
Bye !
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rahul_
Hello @Bertl
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se6astian
Hi rahul_!
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se6astian
how are you?
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Bertl_oO
hey rahul_!
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se6astian
hi AbsentFilms_
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se6astian
just saw your lab account registration
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rahul_
hello @sebastian @Bertl I am good, just started my Thesis.
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Bertl_oO
great!
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rahul_
i again started looking into the placement of my peaking IP
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rahul_
and also wanted to discuss the partial reconfiguration project that we had discussed when I was in Vienna
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se6astian
sounds good, Bertl_oO sounds like your man for this
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Bertl_oO
sure, anytime I'm around ...
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se6astian
rahul_: you meant you want to discuss it now didnt you?
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rahul_
yes
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rahul_
but i am not able to pm either @sabestian or @Bertl
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
thats because your nickname isnt registred with freenode I assume and they stepped up measurements after the recent spam waves
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se6astian
but you can discuss here
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se6astian
or register your nick
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se6astian
or choose a channelname of your choice and go there with Bertl_oO
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rahul_
ok
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