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| 05:14 | apurvanandan[m] | Hi Bertl, Have tried using Xilinx Platform Cable USB with openocd?
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| 05:16 | apurvanandan[m] | https://www.tme.eu/Document/e6667a5e935d23bc75644f3a0cafb0bb/XUP-JTAG-USB.pdf
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| 05:25 | apurvanandan[m] | As digilent xup usb jtag is compatible with Xilinx Platform Cable , and openocd is compatible with platform cable ixo-usbt-jtag ( mentioned in documentation)
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| 05:25 | apurvanandan[m] | https://github.com/ntfreak/openocd/blob/8b8b66559d5fbfeb1dd408a1af17dc0be52b5a9f/tcl/interface/usb-jtag.cfg#L5
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| 06:02 | Y_G | Hi BAndiT1983|away ,I tried the new build however it's failing
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| 06:03 | Y_G | log after running "npm run server" -->
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| 06:03 | Y_G | "https://pastebin.com/A3hp6FLy"
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| 07:15 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 07:16 | Bertl | apurvanandan[m]: great!
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| 07:43 | Bertl | off to the Maker Faire ... bbl
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| 10:10 | BAndiT1983 | hi Davelist1r, have you got my message yesterday?
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| 17:43 | BAndiT1983 | hi Y_|G, please focus on daemon and CLI for now, web UI is nice to have, but i need to get an overview, but my time is sparse at the moment
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| 18:55 | Davelister | good evening
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| 18:56 | BAndiT1983 | hi
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| 19:05 | Davelister | hello BAndiT1983, how are you?
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| 19:05 | BAndiT1983 | hi, fine, and you?
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| 19:06 | Davelister | I am good, thank you
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| 19:06 | Davelister | I was wondering, do you know a way I can help the Apertus project on the hardware side?
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| 19:06 | Davelister | in particular on electronics
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| 19:06 | BAndiT1983 | you still have to wait a bit till Bertl_oO or se6astian|away are available, we were at the maker faire, so everyone was occupied a lot
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| 19:07 | BAndiT1983 | my part is software, so i don't have that much knowledge of the electronics side of the project
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| 19:08 | Davelister | ok ok. Sounds great, how was the fair?
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| 19:10 | BAndiT1983 | was very interesting and full of action, some people misunderstood what we were actually presenting and thought that our product is like kinect or eyetoy
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| 19:10 | BAndiT1983 | but all in all big interest and also a lot of people were interested in axiom micro
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| 19:12 | Davelister | damn, I think I need an update
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| 19:13 | Davelister | is axiom micro a new name for the compact version?
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| 19:14 | BAndiT1983 | axiom micro is a small brother of the beta and was developed by a student and a pupil from germany, they use same firmware as base, but less expensive parts
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| 19:14 | BAndiT1983 | a good example that one can modify the axiom for his/her needs
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| 19:15 | Davelister | that might open a lot of people (including myself) to the community :-)
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| 19:16 | BAndiT1983 | had quite a lot of people for whom the beta price was high, so i have shown them thee micro, as alternative
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| 19:18 | Davelister | I was thinking about using the Beta without the OS, because I only need the FPGA part (in order to consume less energy)
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| 19:19 | BAndiT1983 | have you discussed it with Bertl_oO before?
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| 19:19 | Davelister | does the mi
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| 19:20 | Davelister | (sorry, forget my last input)
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| 19:20 | Davelister | I may had, one year ago. I wanted to help on the FPGA part. But I got a huge workload and I could not help the project anymore.
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| 19:21 | BAndiT1983 | usual stuff, know it too well since i've joined this project
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| 19:21 | Davelister | (and let's say I work on FPGAs all year long, so working on electronics might clear my head)
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| 19:22 | BAndiT1983 | how would you get rid of the zynq part there?
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| 19:22 | Davelister | I won't. The PS part would be replaced with standalone OS, only to configure the IPs through AXI, and the sensors
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| 19:23 | BAndiT1983 | ah, interesting
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| 19:24 | BAndiT1983 | but what is a standalone OS?
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| 19:24 | Davelister | a for() loop :-)
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| 19:25 | BAndiT1983 | :D hope with some sleep cycles in between, to reduce power usage
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| 19:25 | Davelister | When you launch Vivado SDK, they propose you some "hello world" code (with just ps7_init(), and peripherals initialization)
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| 19:26 | Davelister | that's the same kind of code I was thinking about. The FPGA does all the work from image acquisition to storage
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| 19:26 | BAndiT1983 | have a spartan 6 to play around, so i'm bound to ISE, will try vivado whne i'm really into FPGAs
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| 19:26 | Davelister | (and probably managing the image processing)
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| 19:27 | Davelister | ISE is so great
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| 19:27 | Davelister | I miss it to be honest :-)
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| 19:27 | BAndiT1983 | can't say much about it, am a bloody amateur
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| 19:27 | Davelister | hehe, there is a start for everything
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| 19:28 | Davelister | took me six months, full time, to learn the complete basics of the Zynq SoC
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| 19:28 | BAndiT1983 | Bertl_oO has also said something like that, about his FPGA learning time
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| 19:29 | Davelister | and I still learn new stuff (because Xilinx documentation, is what it is)
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| 19:29 | Davelister | (and, be happy, they made a documentation on that one)
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| 19:29 | BAndiT1983 | have already considered to try altera, to get an easier start, but don't know if their docs are not worse than xilinx ones
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| 19:30 | BAndiT1983 | at least i've got ISE to run under linux and can flash the board
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| 19:32 | Davelister | Let's say it is a kind of religious war :-) I had nightmares with Intel/Altera
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| 19:33 | Davelister | (Quartus in particular)
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| 19:33 | felix_ | huh, ise was worse than vivado. not saying that vivado is great though... some the automagic vivado stuff might produce hard to debug problems, so i stay away from that if possible
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| 19:34 | Davelister | Yes, we had this problem at my work
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| 19:34 | Davelister | and let's say I spend time trying to solve these proprietary issues from Vivado
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| 19:34 | Davelister | (or try to justify when they answer "this is a Vivado issue, please ignore these warnings")
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| 19:35 | Davelister | ISE kept it simple. It's old, but the ecosystem behind was clear
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| 19:35 | Davelister | now, everything is mixed, you do not know which tool is still up to date
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| 19:36 | felix_ | spent quite some time with trying to apply timing constraints to a ref inside a block diagram module; ended up putting the constraints in the block design and not the block itself. not very nice solution, but yeah, the customer mainly wants reults and it's not too horrible
| | 19:36 | Davelister | ahahah
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| 19:36 | Davelister | I do not work with block diagrams anymore, except for the PS part
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| 19:37 | felix_ | but when you don't use that block diagram stuff and not the integrated editor, vivado gets its job done
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| 19:37 | felix_ | yep
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| 19:37 | Davelister | the "same old situation" :-)
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| 21:59 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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