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| 05:23 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 16:08 | Bertl | back now ..
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| 18:10 | mookyj | HI, I am late getting back to reviewing the PCB /Schematic files, what tools was verson cmv12k-adapter-v1.2 done in? PDF's would work for review purposes if they are available
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| 18:11 | Bertl | there should be PDFs out there, tool is eagle, which is also available for Linux/Mac/Windows for free to view both schematic and layout
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| 18:14 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/cmv12k-adapter-v1.0.pdf
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| 18:15 | Bertl | 1.0 schematic, the layouts for v1.1 are available as gerbers here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/cmv12k-adapter-v1.1.tar.xz
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| 18:19 | mookyj | thanks
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| 18:24 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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| 18:29 | Bertl | mookyj: are you aware of the differences between public/channel and private messages on IRC? Just asking because last time I got the impression that this wasn't so clear.
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| 19:41 | mookyj | Yes, thanks
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| 19:52 | troy_s | Greets all.
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| 19:53 | Bertl | hey troy_s! how's going?
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| 19:53 | troy_s | Bertl: Not bad. You?
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| 19:53 | troy_s | (Too busy at the moment here... aside from that fine.)
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| 19:53 | Bertl | I'm a little tired (have been up early and no time for a nap yet :) but otherwise fine
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| 19:54 | troy_s | Bertl: Any progress?
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| 19:54 | Bertl | there is always progress
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| 19:54 | troy_s | Bertl: Ok. Dump it.
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| 19:55 | Bertl | what area interests you most?
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| 19:55 | Bertl | hardware, software, design?
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| 19:56 | troy_s | Bertl: High level overview?
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| 19:57 | Bertl | well, beta main and I/O boards are coming into shape, we roughly know what we can do now ...
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| 19:58 | Bertl | on the software side hdmi and (de)serialization is coming along (test setups)
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| 19:58 | Bertl | debug tools and concepts are progressing as well
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| 19:59 | Bertl | sebastian is working on getting new/good footage
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| 20:03 | troy_s | Bertl: Tools and concepts?
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| 20:03 | troy_s | Bertl: I saw somewhere where someone was thinking about the pipeline (yikes)
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| 20:04 | Bertl | thinking about the pipeline? :)
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| 20:07 | Bertl | regarding the tools and concepts question: there are some problems when you are doing FOSS/OH because some tools are simply not available for free
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| 20:08 | Bertl | so you have to be smart and tricky to get the same (or often better) quality tools
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| 20:26 | troy_s | Bertl: Not going to disagree... but would love context.
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| 20:27 | troy_s | Bertl: The bigger issue with Libre is that it tends to have zero barrier for entry, which tends to also significantly bias any audience.
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| 20:27 | troy_s | Bertl: And then the design suffers.
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| 20:27 | troy_s | (Countless examples such as vocal folks that jump up and down when someone thinks about removing some Quake 1 codec from ffmpeg etc.)
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| 20:28 | troy_s | Bertl: The zero barrier appears to skew audiences toward some strange cluster of archetypes that are remotely distant from any typical audience for a given tool.
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| 20:28 | troy_s | Bertl: Heck... just look at the Apertus polls to get a sense of WTF.
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| 20:30 | troy_s | Bertl: Tragic the responses regarding gender bias. Typical buffoonery at play.)
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| 20:30 | troy_s | This piece of fheadery is particularly rich "The true reason a status quo is there because there can be a stable equalibrium of attracting and distracting forces."
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| 20:30 | troy_s | Some fool needs to go read Foucault or take a course in the liberal arts.
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| 20:31 | troy_s | It is borderline infuriating and make me reject the whole project that such a toolbag is even interested in it.
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| 20:53 | Bertl | we love diversity, it is the source of new ideas
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| 20:54 | Bertl | this requires tolerance, not acceptance :)
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| 20:56 | Bertl | ad context: for example, xilinx provides a tool called ChipScope, which allows to basically attach a virtual scope to certain 'wires' inside the FPGA
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| 20:56 | Bertl | but, as usual with proprietary solutions, this tools requires a specific license to use
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| 20:57 | Bertl | (and of course, it limits you to the xilinx tools etc)
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| 20:58 | Bertl | so we need to be smart and find 'other' ways to get the same 'feature' without requiring costly licenses
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| 21:00 | Bertl | ad zero barrier: I got the feeling the entry barrier is quite high here, at least judging from the many folks who only pay a single visit and are never seen again :)
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| 21:15 | troy_s | Bertl: gotcha on tools.
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| 21:15 | troy_s | Bertl: Unless you mean the tools on the ML.
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| 21:15 | troy_s | Bertl: Entry barrier is MUCH higher culturally already if that fheadery post is any indication.
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| 21:16 | troy_s | Bertl: The _worst_ type where the black / white worldviewers truly cannot even see their repulsive stances.
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| 21:33 | Bertl | well, I'm off for a nap I guess ... cya later!
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