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2014/10/18

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Rebelj12a
o.o I can do it... I can turn this lens into a taking lens combo with the LA7200 and create an anamorphic lens combo.
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Rebelj12a
70mm but still
01:23
Rebelj12a
actually I may be able to adjust that down to 50 based on the lensing elements inside.
01:23
Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
01:23
Rebelj12a
night!
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Bertl
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Rebelj12a
im off too see you all later
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se6astian
good morning
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Bertl
morning folks!
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surami
morning!
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lab-bot
sebastian created T38: rename this project. http://lab.apertus.org/T38
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lab-bot
sebastian created T39: increase phabricator upload file size limit. http://lab.apertus.org/T39
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lab-bot
sebastian created T40: Mexico City TAG Festival Flyer. http://lab.apertus.org/T40
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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se6astian
bbl
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surami
somebody could tell me
13:45
surami
that what is the font style of the apertus° open source cinema writing?
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surami
i would like to let print on a t-shirt
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__anton__
Hi, an idea: these guys seem to be fantics of making lens mount adapters: http://www.solidcamera.com/#!lens-mounts/c207j E.g. they make smth which plugs into a camera and on the other has got PL mount. Their thingies also have a way to be attached to rails. The resulting contraption is sold $500-$700. They also produce 0.025mm and 0.08mm shims.
15:19
__anton__
Just wondering if they could be asked to produce lens mounts for Axiom - if things make sense money wise
15:19
__anton__
Looking at the photos it seems they got some experience
15:21
__anton__
http://lesbosher.co.uk/ looks a bit expensive for the task though it doesn't hurt asking for a quote either
16:01
Bertl_oO
yes, two component/modular lens adapters are manufactured by some companies
16:02
Bertl_oO
we had a talk with P+S Technik, a German company
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Bertl_oO
but yes, feel free to ask them if they would be interested in an AXIOM specific base mount
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Bertl_oO
what we would need is the interface to their mount adapters
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Bertl_oO
and the parameters to get the focal length right
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intracube
hello
18:06
intracube
is there any good data for how sensitive the CMV12000 is in global/rolling modes + with 2x2 binning etc?
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intracube
I saw that MagicLantern have started to do some tests on the sensors
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intracube
I think I read that the Aptina sensor is nearly as good as the A7s
18:08
intracube
for low-light
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good evening
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se6astian
intracube: the CMV12000 is not rolling/global switchable
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intracube
se6astian: aah, ok.
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intracube
I got it confused with the Truesense
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intracube
and I got Truesense confused with Aptina. ho-hum
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intracube
goes to lock himself in a dark cupboard
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surami
info from #imx6-dev channel: <jnettlet> surami, no that isn't possible
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surami
to question repogramming HDMI OUT port to IN
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surami
hi!
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surami
there will be gigabit ethernet ports on the beta?
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se6astian
one yes
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surami
but i has only 125 MB bandwith
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surami
i have something in my mind again
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surami
:)
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surami
to store data
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surami
but i don't know if it would work or not
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surami
if MLV will be the video container
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surami
maybe it could be splitted
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surami
and send the information out to 3 ethernet ports
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surami
lets count with around 300 MB/s alltogether
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surami
375 would be to close to the border
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surami
so if the file could be splitted
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surami
then this PC Engines apu system board
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surami
could get the dataflow through 3 ethernet ports
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surami
http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm
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g3gg0
MLV is designed to split it on a per-frame level
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surami
then store it on raid msata maybe?
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surami
yes i know that
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surami
but could it be splitted somehow?
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g3gg0
ok :)
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g3gg0
?
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g3gg0
ah you mean different paths
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g3gg0
i dont know, but i am confident that bertl is working hard on evaluating possibilites
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se6astian
He definitely is :)
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se6astian
time for me to rest
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se6astian
good night
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g3gg0
gn8 sebastian
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se6astian
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surami
good night
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surami
HDMI out for RAW is not too ok or?
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surami
i don't know
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g3gg0
just came home. will need some rest too :) (and will enjoy my rift dk2 by watchting a movie)
22:17
g3gg0
uh, why HDMI
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g3gg0
its all about LVDS interfaces
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g3gg0
which connector doesnt matter
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surami
well i don't understand this "chiness" stuffs :P
22:18
surami
but ok
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surami
then let's Bertl to do it, he is the tech master here as i see
22:19
g3gg0
3xHDMI means 3x3xdifferential pairs to get data out of the device
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g3gg0
what you have on the other side of the cable, who knows? maybe some additional fpga board that also has a multi-SATA interface. maybe. maybe not.
22:20
g3gg0
as you say. let the hardware gurus think about it
22:20
surami
yes
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surami
it will be better
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surami
but i'm too curios :)
22:21
g3gg0
i am sure the best solution will find its way into the beta
22:21
g3gg0
we all are
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g3gg0
that said - i wish you a good night
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g3gg0
cya
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surami
cya
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surami
nice watching :D
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surami
cheers all
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__anton__
http://www.toby.co.uk/content/catalogue/products.aspx?series=FOLC-1xx-xx-xx-Q-xx 4 row socket strips, can be 30 positions long, can be surface-mounted or through hole, have got a "low insertion force" variant, seem to be in $16-19 range
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troy_s
Sausages.
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Bertl_oO
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Bertl
__anton__: you are considering them as sockets?
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Bertl
the problem here is, for through hole that might actually work
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__anton__
hi Bertl, yeah we had this chat before right? You said you'd need a dummy sensor during reflow
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Bertl
but for SMD, you have the problem that they must be aligned, yes
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Bertl
ah, okay, so you know :)
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__anton__
dummy sensor would just be a piece of metal with several pins
00:11
__anton__
yes because you told me :)
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Bertl
yes, but not that trivial, i.e. we can't use soldered in pins, because they would get lose during reflow
00:11
__anton__
true
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Bertl
that's why the peel-away are so appealing (pun intended :)
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Bertl
we get the stability for the reflow and we get rid of the 'socket' part after
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__anton__
Bertl: maybe I'm wrong to worry about it.. but I'll let it out. Looking at this photo from Sebastian http://www.octoray.co.uk/axiom/misc/sensor-photo.jpg I can't help thinking that if the cold-plate runs between sensor PCB and the sensor it will end up only 1mm away from the mount. Will it be in any way an obstacle to trying to cool the sensor? E.g. will it not end up cooling the mount as well?
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__anton__
Then the screws from the mount need to go into something. What do they go into? 1mm plastic wall? wouldn't work.. into the cold plate? but then this is another way to transfer cold to the mount
00:27
Bertl
well, first, cooling the mount might not be the worst thing, because it will indirectly keep the sensor cool from the fromt as well
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__anton__
If we're speaking about using the mount to dissipate the heat from the sensor - yes it's a good rediator
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Bertl
second, unless we make contact with the mount, the gap (of 1mm) between plate and mount will be a strong isolator
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Bertl
i.e. be it air or some insulator between mount/plate, it can be quite efficient even with only 1mm
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Bertl
that's why you want your processor to touch the heat sink and have micrometer thick heat coducting paste between
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Bertl
it is really a factor of 1000 or more between air and e.g. aluminum/copper
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Bertl
(regarding heat conductance)
00:32
__anton__
ah ok, thx for explaining :)
00:32
__anton__
..and then you have holes in the cold plate where the lens mount screws go into smth?
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Bertl
yes, the idea is to screw the cold plate against the lens mount
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Bertl
placing the sensor precisely on those four points (with or without shims)
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Bertl
and also making excellent contact with the cold plate