Current Server Time: 18:59 (Central Europe)

#apertus IRC Channel Logs

2024/03/18

Timezone: UTC


23:11
BogdanXOR
left the channel
23:22
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
23:30
BogdanXOR
left the channel
23:34
intrac
left the channel
23:35
intrac
joined the channel
23:42
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
23:47
BogdanXOR
left the channel
00:00
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
00:13
BogdanXOR
left the channel
00:24
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
00:30
BogdanXOR
left the channel
00:42
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
00:47
BogdanXOR
left the channel
01:01
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
01:09
BogdanXOR
left the channel
01:21
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
01:29
BogdanXOR
left the channel
01:41
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
01:47
BogdanXOR
left the channel
01:58
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
02:12
BogdanXOR
left the channel
02:30
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
02:35
BogdanXOR
left the channel
02:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
02:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
02:54
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
02:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
03:09
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
03:14
BogdanXOR
left the channel
03:25
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
03:29
BogdanXOR
left the channel
03:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
03:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
03:55
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
03:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
04:09
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
04:14
BogdanXOR
left the channel
04:34
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
04:39
BogdanXOR
left the channel
04:45
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
04:53
BogdanXOR
left the channel
04:54
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
04:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
05:09
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
05:14
BogdanXOR
left the channel
05:24
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
05:29
BogdanXOR
left the channel
05:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
05:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
05:45
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
05:54
BogdanXOR
left the channel
06:00
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
06:08
BogdanXOR
left the channel
06:15
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
06:24
BogdanXOR
left the channel
06:24
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
06:29
BogdanXOR
left the channel
06:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
06:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
06:50
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
06:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
07:05
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
07:10
BogdanXOR
left the channel
07:17
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
07:22
BogdanXOR
left the channel
07:28
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
07:33
BogdanXOR
left the channel
07:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
07:47
BogdanXOR
left the channel
07:47
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
07:56
BogdanXOR
left the channel
08:04
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
08:09
BogdanXOR
left the channel
08:15
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
08:20
BogdanXOR
left the channel
08:26
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
08:31
BogdanXOR
left the channel
08:40
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
08:45
BogdanXOR
left the channel
08:54
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
09:00
BogdanXOR
left the channel
09:10
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
09:14
BogdanXOR
left the channel
09:24
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
09:29
BogdanXOR
left the channel
09:47
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
10:09
BogdanXOR
left the channel
10:15
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
11:09
jczmok
joined the channel
11:10
jczmok
tach
11:10
jczmok
Bertl:fragen zum raspi5
11:10
jczmok
habe das raspi5 + c790 + x1002 hier angeschlossen liegen
11:21
jczmok
allerdings probleme
11:25
jczmok
https://pastebin.com/uLjtxwzH
11:25
jczmok
hier sind meine infos
11:27
jczmok
und natuerlich die dtparam und dtoverlay im config.txt
11:27
jczmok
dtparam=uart0=on
11:27
jczmok
dtparam=pciex1_gen=3
11:27
jczmok
dtoverlay=tc358743,4lane=1,cam0
11:28
jczmok
und und alles default gelassen
11:28
jczmok
# Enable DRM VC4 V3D driver
11:28
jczmok
dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d
11:28
jczmok
max_framebuffers=2
11:34
Bertl
hey jczmok, I think you are missing the media configuration
11:34
Bertl
try the script here http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/RPI5/
11:35
Bertl
it should configure the media routing as well as the v4l2 device nodes
11:36
Bertl
./prep-csi2.sh /dev/media0 1080P60EDID.txt
11:36
jczmok
nope. that does not work
11:36
jczmok
i assume another error:
11:36
jczmok
check https://pastebin.com/b18qmH4c
11:37
jczmok
around [ 1.698680]
11:37
jczmok
[ 1.797876] pci 0000:00:00.0: bridge configuration invalid ([bus 00-00]), reconfiguring
11:39
Bertl
that's not mipi related, so you're having problems with PCIe or MIPI?
11:40
jczmok
i just assembled the unit yesterday evening (see telegram)
11:40
Bertl
don't use telegram
11:40
jczmok
and connected the c790 via the adapter to cam/disp0
11:41
Bertl
yeah, that's fine and it is also detected according to your boot log
11:41
jczmok
c790 has green light
11:41
Bertl
when you configure it with the script, it should also work for capture
11:41
jczmok
and i too default boot.tt
11:41
jczmok
Cannot open device , exiting.
11:41
jczmok
Cannot open device , exiting.
11:41
jczmok
Cannot open device , exiting.
11:41
jczmok
Unable to parse link: Invalid argument (22)
11:41
jczmok
Unable to setup formats: Invalid argument (22)
11:41
jczmok
Unable to setup formats: Invalid argument (22)
11:41
jczmok
Media controller API version 6.6.20
11:41
jczmok
Media device information
11:41
jczmok
------------------------
11:41
jczmok
driver pispbe
11:41
jczmok
model pispbe
11:41
jczmok
serial
11:42
jczmok
and drivers are loaded
11:42
Bertl
you also added the V3D check that /dev/media0 is actually the MIPI
11:42
Bertl
(it probably isn't)
11:43
Bertl
in case you have /dev/media1 try with that
11:43
jczmok
actually good question
11:43
jczmok
media1 isnt it as well
11:44
jczmok
so /dev/media3 = platform:rpivid
11:44
Bertl
/dev/media2 maybe? :)
11:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
11:45
jczmok
yes
11:45
jczmok
media2
11:46
jczmok
but:
11:46
jczmok
VIDIOC_QUERY_DV_TIMINGS: failed: Link has been severed
11:46
jczmok
VIDIOC_S_DV_TIMINGS: failed: Numerical result out of range
11:46
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
11:46
jczmok
VIDIOC_QUERY_DV_TIMINGS: failed: Link has been severed
11:46
Bertl
is the camera running and the HDMI connected?
11:46
jczmok
not yet.
11:46
Bertl
then that's the problem
11:47
jczmok
first i wanted to prepare everything
11:47
Bertl
no HDMI feed, no link, no data
11:47
jczmok
ok
11:47
jczmok
thats next then.
11:48
jczmok
so i need to find a way to detect the correct media interface
11:48
jczmok
to make it easier for other users
11:50
BogdanXOR
left the channel
11:52
jczmok
anyhow thanks so far
11:52
Bertl
you're welcome!
11:53
jczmok
next is to get & compile axiom-recorder, then power camera
11:53
Bertl
easiest way is probably to look for the tc358743 in media-ctl -p
11:53
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
11:53
Bertl
(regarding detecting the correct interface)
11:54
jczmok
you need to move thru medi0 to x
11:54
jczmok
i will try different ideas
11:55
Bertl
maybe udev rules will work here .. but haven't checked yet
11:58
BogdanXOR
left the channel
12:04
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
12:09
BogdanXOR
left the channel
12:15
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
12:20
BogdanXOR
left the channel
12:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
12:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
13:02
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
13:09
BogdanXOR
left the channel
13:11
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
13:16
BogdanXOR
left the channel
13:25
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
13:29
BogdanXOR
left the channel
13:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
13:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
14:09
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
14:14
BogdanXOR
left the channel
14:25
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
14:30
BogdanXOR
left the channel
14:39
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
14:44
BogdanXOR
left the channel
14:54
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
14:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
15:00
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
15:09
BogdanXOR
left the channel
15:11
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
15:15
BogdanXOR
left the channel
15:19
anuejn
jczmok: you probably want to try to capture / display video with ffmpeg / ffplay first
15:20
anuejn
since axiom-recorder is a bit ... fiddly :D
15:20
se6astian
jczmok: great you are on the rp5 setup already!
15:21
se6astian
I created a subsection on the wiki dedicated to the rp5 recorder setup: https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php?title=AXIOM_Beta/Raw_Recording#Raspberry_Pi_5
15:21
se6astian
please add all the notes, findings, scripts, etc. you try/confirm working there
15:24
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
15:34
BogdanXOR
left the channel
15:34
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
15:39
BogdanXOR
left the channel
15:45
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
15:53
BogdanXOR
left the channel
15:54
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
15:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
16:00
se6astian
MEETING TIME!
16:00
se6astian
who is here?
16:00
Bertl
is here
16:01
se6astian
excellent, any news to report Bertl?
16:02
Bertl
well, I've been testing the Axiom Beta/Raspberry Pi5 combo a little more
16:02
Bertl
and it seems that there are no real bandwidth limitations so far, at least not on the MIPI side
16:03
Bertl
have been testing with two tc358743 based converters
16:03
Bertl
and they can easily stream the 1080p60 data without any problems
16:04
Bertl
(currently doing some reliability tests)
16:04
Bertl
I've also tested the USB3 side and there it seems we are hitting some limits, but I'm not sure yet where they come from
16:05
Bertl
USB drives resulted in really bad performance on the write side (good on read though)
16:05
Bertl
but I've also ordered some NVMe to USB bridges to test with that
16:05
Bertl
I also plan to do some USB SATA testing
16:06
Bertl
on the hardware side, there are some boards in the queue which might help with MIPI but that's in the early design stage at the moment
16:06
Bertl
that's it from my side I guess ...
16:08
se6astian
great, the nvme/pcie ssd approach has been tested and works flawlessly at the required high speed though right?
16:08
se6astian
so USB would be an additional option
16:09
Bertl
it seems to work ... have been getting the occasional AER error at Gen 3 speeds but that is probably kind of expected
16:09
Bertl
might also be possible to improve that with a better connection and shielding
16:10
se6astian
are there other storage options through the pcie port on the rp5 ?
16:10
tpw_rules
Bertl: what have you tested for USB drives? there are some good and many bad
16:11
Bertl
tpw_rules: I went for high quality and good reports first and tested a Kingston DataTraveler MAX 256GB
16:12
Bertl
it is supposed to have up to 1GB read and slighly below that write throughput
16:12
Bertl
the problem is, I couldn't really get anything better than 120MB/s sustained write (over the entire USB drive)
16:12
tpw_rules
https://images.anandtech.com/reviews/das/2021-/pssd/Kingston-DataTraveler-Max-A-256GB/PCON.png
16:13
tpw_rules
(it seems that particular site interleaves read and write benchmarking)
16:13
se6astian
all the other storage ideas I would have are USB based, fast SSD with USB-C connector like Samsung T7 or a quality cfexpress card reader with for example a 1TB Angelbird CFexpress card with 1500MB/​s write speed for example
16:13
tpw_rules
samsung t7 are good, some of the older models do crater pretty badly
16:13
Bertl
I'm in contact with Kingston btw, they are 'processing' my issue at the moment
16:14
Bertl
(already past level 1 support)
16:14
tpw_rules
frankly to me what you observe sounds better than expected
16:15
Bertl
I'm very happy if you can suggest any USB stick which can sustain about 380MB/s write throughput
16:15
tpw_rules
i think that is beyond the stick form factor
16:15
Bertl
yeah, I have a feeling that is true
16:16
Bertl
se6astian: yeah, PCIe on the RPi5 can basically run whatever single lane card you like
16:17
Bertl
but I'm not sure what the advantage would be to add another intermediate protocol there?
16:17
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
16:19
se6astian
yeah the m.2 ssd is probably the best approach
16:20
Bertl
it makes sense for the USB 3 side to investigate SATA and NVMe bridges as we are basically limited to USB there
16:20
se6astian
quick updates from me: I collected the required dupont cables for getting the new power adapter pcb Bertl sent me hooked up and have everything on my workdesk already to push this forward
16:20
se6astian
but I also have the rp5 there as well, so many interesting things and too little time :)
16:21
se6astian
on another front BAndiT1983 got the new asciidocs documentation wiki test page CI building up and running for html and PDF
16:21
se6astian
https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/documentation-wiki
16:22
se6astian
we also got some sample content already to try
16:22
se6astian
https://apertus-open-source-cinema.github.io/documentation-wiki/Main.html
16:22
se6astian
adapting theme and styles is still on the todo list
16:22
se6astian
and adding any additional sample content that we would like to have in the future
16:23
se6astian
will do another axiom recorder tinkering session with anuejn this thursday
16:24
BogdanXOR
left the channel
16:24
se6astian
thats it from my side
16:24
se6astian
anyone else with news or interesting progress?
16:40
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
16:45
BogdanXOR
left the channel
16:47
se6astian
Ok MEETING CONCLUDED
16:55
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
16:59
BogdanXOR
left the channel
17:13
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
17:18
BogdanXOR
left the channel
17:18
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
17:24
BogdanXOR
left the channel
17:30
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
17:39
BogdanXOR
left the channel
19:12
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
19:17
BogdanXOR
left the channel
19:44
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
19:49
BogdanXOR
left the channel
20:01
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
20:11
BogdanXOR
left the channel
21:45
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
21:53
BogdanXOR
left the channel
22:05
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
22:10
BogdanXOR
left the channel
22:25
BogdanXOR
joined the channel
22:33
BogdanXOR
left the channel