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| 08:13 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 09:05 | danieel | Spirit532: if that is an usb3 head, you will find a very small Spartan6 as phy decoder (e.g. LX4) and a Cypress FX3 bridge for the usb part
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| 09:05 | Spirit532 | no
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| 09:05 | Spirit532 | there's no fx3
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| 09:06 | danieel | what is the interface then? CL ?
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| 09:06 | Spirit532 | hold on, let me take the back off
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| 09:08 | Spirit532 | nope, nevermind
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| 09:09 | Spirit532 | it doesn't want to come apart
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| 09:09 | Spirit532 | it's got a tiny FPGA inside, that I know
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| 09:09 | Spirit532 | but certainly not an fx3
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| 09:09 | danieel | why do you made such assumption?
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| 09:10 | Spirit532 | because I've been in one
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| 09:15 | Spirit532 | actually, this model might have the FX3
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| 09:16 | Spirit532 | the others don't
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| 09:17 | Spirit532 | yes, it does use the FX3
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| 09:20 | danieel | :)
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| 09:48 | Spirit532 | surprising
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| 09:48 | Spirit532 | the FX3 can't reach 5 gigabit speeds as advertised
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| 09:48 | Spirit532 | but they somehow manage to
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| 09:49 | Spirit532 | every attempt I've seen stopped at around 4.8-4.9
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| 09:53 | Bertl | maybe it's overclocked :)
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| 09:54 | Spirit532 | could be
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| 09:55 | Bertl | nah, I think you are either 'measuring' the wrong thing (payload vs. wire transfer) or the FX3 is doing a lot of retransmissions
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| 09:55 | Spirit532 | I didn't measure anything personally
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| 09:55 | Spirit532 | a few of my friends did
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| 09:55 | Bertl | the bandwidth limit is not on the USB side, it is on the GPIF II
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| 09:56 | Spirit532 | this is one of the reasons Point Grey(now FLIR) uses a proprietary USB3 solution
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| 09:56 | Spirit532 | to get higher data rates
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| 15:05 | Guest54875 | thanks and keep up the great work
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| 15:06 | Guest54875 | someone joked about cmv50000 back in november, but could this be a possible future censor?
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| 15:07 | Guest54875 | (oops, i meant sensor)
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| 15:17 | Bertl_oO | yes, a lot of sensors are 'possible'
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| 15:18 | Guest54875 | its not listed on the wiki so I was just curious, anyway, hope you all have a great day
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| 15:18 | Bertl_oO | from the specificiation, it has 22LVDS channels @830Mbps, so that is within our defined interface
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| 15:19 | Bertl_oO | the size is relatively large, but 141pin PGA package should work as well
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| 15:20 | Bertl_oO | the price seems to be around 6400 USD, so it's not something you buy every day though :)
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| 15:20 | Guest54875 | oh hi, thanks for the reply, wow thats cool, can already see a future upgrade then :)
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| 15:21 | Bertl_oO | also 30FPS at 12bit full resolution is not that great for moving pictures
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| 15:22 | Guest54875 | hmm... good points...
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| 15:24 | Guest54875 | well thanks for the chat, good luck
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| 15:25 | Bertl_oO | you're welcome!
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| 19:14 | Spirit532 | the Ximea camera is not compabiel with USB2
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| 19:14 | Spirit532 | so here are a few shots taken over USB2
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| 19:16 | Spirit532 | whenever it loads...
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| 19:19 | Spirit532 | https://i.spirit.re/test%20shots.7z
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| 19:19 | Spirit532 | there.
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| 19:20 | Spirit532 | note that I had absolutely no control over the camera or sensor - it only magically managed to stream images, even though it's not compatible with USB2.
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| 19:21 | Bertl_oO | interesting line in the middle of the first image
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| 19:21 | Spirit532 | it's across all of them
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| 19:21 | Spirit532 | no idea why it's there, the camera is brand new.
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| 19:21 | Spirit532 | but it's not dead - you can see pixels.
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| 19:22 | Bertl_oO | funny that it seems to stop shortly before the bottom
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| 19:22 | Spirit532 | yeah, it's really odd
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| 19:22 | Bertl_oO | does it wander around if you turn the camera?
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| 19:22 | Bertl_oO | (might be related to the bright spots)
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| 19:23 | Spirit532 | nope
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| 19:23 | Spirit532 | I'll test it out more when another USB3 pcie card arrives
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| 19:23 | Spirit532 | this one gave up the ghost in 5 minutes
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| 19:24 | Spirit532 | went from "nice and steady stream of images" to "POWER SURGE DETECTED" on all four ports... of which there are only 2.
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| 19:25 | Bertl_oO | usb3 is tricky
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| 19:27 | Bertl_oO | took me a number of tries to find a card/hub combo which works reasonably well on Linux and allows for high bandwidth transfers
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| 19:28 | Spirit532 | this is microsocks waldows.
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| 19:28 | Spirit532 | the funny thing is, this camera only pulls 2.5W
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| 19:28 | Bertl_oO | well, there you never know what to blame :)
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| 19:29 | Spirit532 | it was most certainly the hardware
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| 19:29 | Spirit532 | I tried every single firmware and driver version
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| 19:30 | Bertl_oO | that was fun for sure
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| 19:31 | Spirit532 | I even tried the hardware troubleshooting route
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| 19:32 | Spirit532 | but I won't go deep, because I want my warranty.
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| 19:52 | Bertl_oO | yeah, you probably gonna need it if that vertical column stays
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| 19:53 | Spirit532 | oh no, I have no warranty from Ximea
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| 19:53 | Spirit532 | for that I would have to pay the $1500 price tag! :D
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| 19:54 | Spirit532 | but it's not a bad column, it's just heavily offset. I think a firmware update will fix it, I just wasn't risking it over USB2.
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| 19:56 | Bertl_oO | well, I don't think firmware updates have such high bandwidth requirements, but what do I know ...
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| 22:16 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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