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2014/01/17

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FergusL
Bertl: http://paste.linux-vserver.org/40132 does the exposure() function returns ns ?
00:20
FergusL
given the 1e9
00:20
FergusL
but that's unclear to me...
00:21
FergusL
if you've got a moment to explain, based on what the doc says: Exposure time (ns) = [(Exp_time-1) x (reg85+1) + 1701] x LVDS_CLK_P/N-period x #bits
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carsonau
hello apertus team :)
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se6astian
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se6astian
good day
09:56
carsonau
how are you?
09:57
carsonau
apologies in advance, not quite familiar with using IRC
10:05
se6astian
hi carson
10:05
se6astian
good good
10:05
se6astian
but unfortunately I have to leave right away now for lunch
10:06
se6astian
will you still be here afterwards to chat?
10:06
se6astian
you can try in the meantime if Bertl is around, he normally lives more the US timezone so it might take a bit of more time until he is up
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carsonau
ahh right. timezone's going to be of a bit of a problem. I'm off to bed just now! (Sydney, Australia timezone)
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11:19
FergusL
HI se6astian, in case you haven't noticed
11:19
FergusL
I pushed to the repo. tell me if there is anything you notice
11:22
se6astian
great thanks
11:22
se6astian
you know there is a demo register dump in the repo to test it right?
11:23
FergusL
that's the only one I tested with
11:23
FergusL
I need to test with some other which I exactly know the exposure time, that's the first test I'm doing
11:25
FergusL
se6astian: is there some more coding like this to do in some area ?
11:26
se6astian
if the metadata reader is finished we could do something similar for the PHP that runs on the camera
11:27
se6astian
https://twitter.com/ApertusOSCinema/status/423806487501086721/photo/1/large
11:29
se6astian
I have not commited the php code itself yet but I can do that soon
11:30
FergusL
that erh... that is *on* the camera root@...114 is a shell on the camera itself ?
11:31
se6astian
webserver on the camera yes
11:31
FergusL
ha yes, apparently, sorry didn't read the tweet that comes with i
11:31
FergusL
t
11:32
se6astian
a bit more difficult to test then without a camera but we should be able to find a way to do that as well
11:34
se6astian
like we can set up a fake register source on the actual apertus webserver for example
11:35
FergusL
I don't know php though but I'm sure I can understand and contribute on something that is already partly done, like i've done for the reader
11:35
se6astian
great!
11:36
FergusL
and I'd like to learn some web dev too
11:36
se6astian
perfect opportunity then
11:40
FergusL
se6astian: it's based off bootstrap ?
11:41
se6astian
yes
11:41
FergusL
so is the website anyway
11:41
se6astian
yes
12:01
FergusL
Okay I think I can confirm the exposure function works fine
12:02
FergusL
"72[23:0] Exp_time: 40960 422.765 Exposure Time (ms)" for scene_lowlight_422ms_c.raw16, makes sense
12:03
se6astian
looks good yes
12:07
FergusL
the sensor is detected as monochrome sensor in the registers
12:09
se6astian
interesting, lets look into that, maybe its missconfigured on the camera defaults atm
12:10
FergusL
the issue can't be in the C code ? :) or shall I double check ?
12:10
se6astian
maybe :)
12:10
se6astian
please check
12:21
FergusL
se6astian: code is fine
12:21
FergusL
it's for interleaved read out only though
12:22
FergusL
so nothing to worry about to much I think
12:23
se6astian
I see, well lets keep it in the back of our heads, I want to test the HDR modes soon
12:23
FergusL
ok
12:25
FergusL
I'd like to shift Description by one \t right to increase readability
12:33
se6astian
good idea, please go ahead
12:45
FergusL
beautiful !
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opusprod
hello - bonjour !
12:47
FergusL
bonjour opusprod
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opusprod
changed nick to: JulienB
12:47
FergusL
or hello, yes
12:48
se6astian
hi there
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JulienB
changed nick to: opusprod
12:49
opusprod
first congratulations for your projet :
12:49
opusprod
beautiful ideas
12:49
opusprod
i'm french , pardon me if i am not 100% correct with my english
12:50
FergusL
je suis français aussi, je traduirai si besoin donc hésite pas si tu as des mots qui manquent !
12:50
opusprod
ha OOk super alors
12:53
opusprod
I' a graphic designer specialist in 3D vizualisation and animation
12:54
opusprod
and i'd love to participate to your Axiom project
12:54
opusprod
if you need to make 3D photorealistic renders
12:54
guesst
oh, no renders, make product :)
12:55
opusprod
hahaha
12:55
guesst
otherwise you end up like blackmagic :P
12:55
opusprod
true in a sense
12:56
opusprod
i've done some 3D vizualisation of the BMCC
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opusprod
i guess that the priority is finishing the prototype
13:01
FergusL
maybe some help can be needed now or later for 3D visualisations, I don't know
13:01
opusprod
but if you need some help for the artworks, i' an here
13:03
se6astian
check your pm view opusprod
13:10
FergusL
ok; pushed the last changes se6astian
13:13
se6astian
thanks!
13:19
Bertl
morning folks!
13:20
FergusL
hi Bertl
13:26
se6astian
Hi Bertl!
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se6astian
time to leave as wel
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se6astian
see you
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se6astian
FergusL, I just committed the PHP scripts, etc. to github
16:31
se6astian
https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/alpha-software/tree/master/misc_scripts_and_utilities/webserver_root
16:31
FergusL
nice !
16:31
se6astian
its a bit messy at the moment but I am fine answering any questions to help you get an overview
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FergusL
se6astian: php is
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FergusL
se6astian: php is your thing usually ? I mean that's what you know the most
16:32
se6astian
yes, the platform I develop in most regularly
16:33
FergusL
I see
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FergusL
php is server side only right ? does it help in the generation of html ? I've encountered php already and worked my way around small glitches but never written any lign of it, I don't actually know what it *is* exactly
16:34
FergusL
I can rtfm as well
16:36
se6astian
yes, server side only, it generates html as output
16:40
FergusL
I get it
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FergusL
looking at the files there
16:41
FergusL
just being curious, php is generally registered as a module of some sort by the webserver, like in apache iirc
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FergusL
so when serving pages like foo.bar/registers.php it is first processed by php, that outputs valid HTML code that is then sent to the requesting client ?
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se6astian
yes
16:49
FergusL
I think I get it, and I think I like it !!
16:49
FergusL
what's the next milestone for this part ?
16:52
se6astian
I just compiled your latest commits to the metadatareader
16:52
se6astian
very nice
16:52
FergusL
cool
16:53
se6astian
I love the "--" for blank values, makes it much more readable
16:53
FergusL
as I've noted, the time calculations are working !
16:53
se6astian
great work
16:53
FergusL
thanks :) I'm really happy to have brought some help
16:54
se6astian
I am just reading through the output
16:54
se6astian
76[23:0] Exp_kp1: 0 171799 Exposure Time (ms)
16:54
se6astian
what does the 171799 mean?
16:55
FergusL
well it is the result of the calculation when all the arguments are at 0
16:55
FergusL
"72[23:0] Exp_time: 20480 211.411 Exposure Time (ms)" is the only meaningful line, which is correct since it was a standard exposure
16:55
FergusL
or did I get it wrong ?
16:56
se6astian
no I think the formular is right
16:57
se6astian
but I guess for the kneepoint 0 means "disabled"
16:58
FergusL
hm, yes, maybe adding a switch there ? case 0 : Disabled else prints the value
16:58
se6astian
good idea
16:59
FergusL
though it doesn't mean disabled as per the datasheet unless I missed it
16:59
se6astian
I just renamed the Exposure times for the knee points to "Knee Point 2 Exposure Time"
16:59
FergusL
because when in multiple slope mode, you might be able to set kp at 0, it won't result in something interseting but it will not be disabled
17:00
se6astian
I see
17:00
FergusL
so I don't mind leaving non-sense values in the output as long as they are "right"
17:00
se6astian
lets leave them for now, when I take some test images with the HDR mode we can take another look at what the proper values mean
17:00
FergusL
ok
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FergusL
good idea
17:01
FergusL
can you take a look at line 523
17:01
FergusL
for register 116, I added a comment
17:02
FergusL
I think "mult" is for multiple exposure mode, to have different values... but maybe not
17:02
se6astian
in that case it means "muliplier"
17:02
se6astian
*multiplier
17:03
FergusL
ha !
17:03
se6astian
and also applies to non hdr modes
17:04
FergusL
how do you know that ? simply guessing ?
17:04
se6astian
by testing :)
17:04
se6astian
and a bit of guessing
17:04
FergusL
got it
17:05
se6astian
first I thought the values for 116 in the datasheet contain a typo
17:05
se6astian
since its 3 for both 10 and 12 bit mode
17:05
FergusL
well maybe update (or not) the description and remove my comment then !
17:05
FergusL
yes I saw your comment
17:06
se6astian
but if you look at the bits: 1 = 0001, 3 = 0011 in front of the ADC_range it seems like its actually a single register
17:07
se6astian
let me post the output on twitter as development update now :)
17:08
FergusL
sure !
17:10
se6astian
done
17:10
se6astian
do you have a twitter account?
17:11
FergusL
yes, logging in now to retweet !
17:11
FergusL
and follow
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FergusL
@Fergus_L
17:12
se6astian
username?
17:12
se6astian
thanks
17:14
FergusL
thanks for the mention !
17:16
se6astian
credits are the only currency I can pay you in atm :)
17:17
FergusL
I must confess I'm proud of it, it's an important achievment to feel you've contributed something meaningful, regardless of how much meaning it has
17:18
FergusL
I got a recommandation to follow Digital Bolex when I started following Apertus on twitter hah
17:18
FergusL
I wonder what they are at now
17:19
FergusL
didn't we have some conversations with Joe some time ago ?
17:19
FergusL
must have been a year
17:19
se6astian
a brief one a long time ago
17:21
FergusL
I never understood why so much empashis on the aesthetics
17:21
FergusL
we're doing the same... but only in 3D models :)
17:24
se6astian
well I do think its important to like a product not just because of its features, if there is an emotional connection it makes it more special
17:25
FergusL
yes... that's true as well
17:25
se6astian
latest viewing stats of today: 1082 unique visitors to main website and minisite together
17:26
FergusL
increased since yesterday
17:26
se6astian
and the day isnt over yet :)
18:35
FergusL
so se6astian, what about that php ?
18:45
se6astian
yes, it would be great to have the same amount of register explanation and decoding as on the metadata reader
18:46
se6astian
currently I just copy/pasted in all register names from the datasheet
18:46
FergusL
ha yes I see
18:46
FergusL
maybe displayed differently though ?
18:46
FergusL
because as I've seen it allows writing to it, does it ?
18:46
se6astian
yes
18:46
se6astian
I am open for all new ideas
18:47
FergusL
well maybe sorting, grouping things together
19:00
se6astian
yes the grouping together works with the button at the top
19:00
se6astian
where you select "topic"
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se6astian
and then only get the registers that are relevant in that context
19:00
se6astian
like exposure time, kneepoints, etc in "HDR"
19:01
se6astian
ok gotta go afk for a bit, let me know if you have any questions, etc. in a PM
19:10
FergusL
understood se6astian, going to play a bit with php to understand how it works
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se6astian
time for bed, good night
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