| 01:27 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 06:46 | tjstyle | just found another side for what I can do without beta dev kit, I think I will focused on Axiom Remote for now.
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| 06:47 | tjstyle | but instead using PIC32, I will use STM32 in development.
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| 07:25 | tjstyle | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Os3HhglL/IMG_20180106_201255.jpg
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| 07:26 | tjstyle | remembering I was have similar project with Axiom Remote, it's RGB LED controller for placed in car dashboard.
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| 07:27 | tjstyle | it's full touchscreen operation, using STM32F4.
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| 07:29 | tjstyle | just need to add some hardware input (button, encoder, etc.) but need to learn for menu and another stuff that needed in Axiom Remote.
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| 09:38 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 09:39 | Bertl | hey tjstyle! regarding remote: why not ... but note that we also finished the first prototype hardware for the AXIOM remote recently
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| 09:40 | Bertl | http://files.apertus.org/HARDWARE/AXIOM/BETA/REMOTE/
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| 09:41 | Bertl | while it features a touch sensitive display, the folks responsible for the ergonomics decided to focus on 'real buttons' for the haptic feeling and feedback instead of touch
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| 09:44 | tjstyle | yes, I was read in wiki then I will take a look for the prototype as base for my design.
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| 09:45 | tjstyle | because for now only that segment that I can focus without dev kit.
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| 09:46 | tjstyle | and yes, I will also add real button also haptic feedback for touch and encoder using motor buzzer.
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| 09:46 | Bertl | well, there are probably some areas where you could work on ...
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| 09:47 | Bertl | like for example we were asked several times about a simple audio shield
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| 09:47 | Bertl | i.e. something you can use to input/output audio, maybe even with proper mic supply or so
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| 09:48 | Bertl | that might be your area of expertise while at the same time reasonably independant from the axiom camera
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| 09:48 | tjstyle | one thing that I need to know now, what interface used between camera and remote?
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| 09:49 | tjstyle | hmm, audio shield was also interesting area.
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| 09:49 | Bertl | that is something we haven't decided yet, the most likely interface for the start will be USB
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| 09:49 | Bertl | i.e. the remote gets the power via USB and data is exchanged between remote and camera
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| 09:49 | Bertl | (this doesn't require any additional I/O interfaces on the camera)
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| 09:50 | tjstyle | ok, that's possible also in STM32.
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| 09:50 | Bertl | the better option for the future is probably a bidirectional serial interface as it is more robust than USB
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| 09:50 | tjstyle | I also think about using USB or UART
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| 09:50 | Bertl | and there isn't much data to be sent between remote and camera
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| 09:51 | tjstyle | uart will more easy with defined protocol than usb I think
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| 09:52 | Bertl | both can be easily tested on a PC, either directly via USB or via an RS-232C USB adapter
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| 09:52 | Bertl | the prototype we did (for the remote) features USB, UART and I2C as potential interfaces
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| 09:52 | Bertl | (the one I linked above)
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| 09:55 | tjstyle | So I will make my own design based on prototype design above, no problem if my design will not submited as officiall Axiom remote. only as alternative remote.
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| 09:55 | tjstyle | then also playing around with audio shield
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| 09:57 | Bertl | yeah sure, we do not have a problem with alternative solutions
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| 10:09 | anuejn2 | yeah audio shield would be awesome :)
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| 10:09 | anuejn2 | maybe something like 2x xlr in and 1x headphone out
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| 10:38 | comradekingu | tjstyle: I would put the faders next to the edge, that way you can operate them without having to take the eyes off what you are doing
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| 10:40 | tjstyle | anuejn2: noted!
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| 10:42 | tjstyle | comradekingu: analog in is ok. and for digital in, actually how much buttons that actually used?
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| 10:43 | tjstyle | STM32 have 16 EXTI pin input, 2 encoder will take 4 EXTI. so 12 left for buttons
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| 10:44 | tjstyle | above 12, so I will not use EXTI feature, just scanning buttons each cycle.
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| 10:45 | comradekingu | anuejn headphone out needs an amplifier
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| 10:46 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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