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| 01:23 | FergusL | hi again here
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| 01:33 | FergusL | exciting backlog about profiling
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| 01:34 | FergusL | I can help as well !
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| 01:34 | FergusL | at least I'm willing too
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| 01:34 | FergusL | to*
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| 01:35 | FergusL | aren't the raw files enough right now ? that simply need to be dumped as greyscale images in "precise" formats
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| 01:41 | FergusL | troy_s: thanks for the Argyll links
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| 02:29 | Sasha_C | Greetings everyone
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| 02:30 | Bertl | greetings!
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| 02:38 | gcolburn | hello
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| 02:38 | Bertl | wb gcolburn!
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| 02:39 | gcolburn | I'm trying to work on the camera calibration
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| 02:39 | gcolburn | I think we are going to need a new shot where we can crop out the columns with the defects
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| 02:39 | gcolburn | on the left side of the sensor
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| 02:40 | gcolburn | looks like the defects go through half of the first column of patches
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| 02:41 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/RAW/IT8_incand.png
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| 02:41 | Bertl | I don't think they cover any relevant area, no?
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| 02:43 | Bertl | i.e. if they confuse the software, a copy/paste should do the trick
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| 02:43 | gcolburn | true
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| 02:44 | gcolburn | there is a file that tells the calibrations software where the patches are on an IT8 chart. so if it looks at the overlapping defects the average would come out wrong
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| 02:45 | Bertl | yeah, so probably the best approach is to break it down into RGGB and simply fix the B by copy/pasting the 2nd block over the third
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| 02:46 | gcolburn | that could work
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| 02:47 | gcolburn | the software requires a debayered tiff though, so copy/paste could work
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| 02:47 | gcolburn | I'm getting stuck with an error from Argyll and haven't figured it out yet
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| 02:49 | Bertl | it might be looking for the markers on the leftmost white bar and above
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| 02:52 | gcolburn | it looks like its finding the patches okay
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| 02:52 | gcolburn | it outputs a diagnostic image with labels that should match up with each row/column
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| 02:52 | gcolburn | the error I get later is: "colprof: Error - Input file doesn't contain keyword COLOR_REPS"
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| 03:00 | Bertl | okay
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| 03:03 | gcolburn | i think I'll have to search through their source code to figure out what's missing. searching hasn't helped too much
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| 09:25 | FergusL | Hi here
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| 09:26 | se6astian | good morning
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| 09:40 | mars_ | morning
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| 10:10 | se6astian | hi mars, are you approaching the finish line with your other i project?
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| 12:30 | Bertl | morning everyone!
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| 12:31 | Sasha_C | Good morning Bertl
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| 12:32 | FergusL | hello Bertl
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| 12:32 | intracube | hi folks
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| 12:35 | FergusL | did someone else took a look at the links troy_s posted here yesterday ?
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| 12:35 | FergusL | they are very interesting, about camera profiling
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| 12:35 | FergusL | starting from zero
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| 12:36 | intracube | I didn't see the links FergusL
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| 12:36 | intracube | on a related note, can someone point me to a doc which explains the format of the .raw8/.raw16 files here http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/RAW/ ?
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| 12:36 | FergusL | <troy_s1> gcolburn: Here is another link using Argyll http://stephenstuff.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/digital-camera-profiling-with-raw-therapee-and-argyll-cms/
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| 12:36 | intracube | just curious :)
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| 12:36 | Bertl | http://stephenstuff.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/digital-camera-profiling-with-raw-therapee-and-argyll-cms/
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| 12:37 | FergusL | it's a binary raw file
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| 12:37 | FergusL | basically 16 bits values following each other
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| 12:37 | FergusL | for each pixel
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| 12:37 | FergusL | not debayered, of course
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| 12:37 | intracube | and as this is the raw data, it would follow the pixel layout of the sensor?
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| 12:37 | intracube | right
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| 12:37 | FergusL | yes
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| 12:38 | FergusL | it is padded, though
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| 12:38 | intracube | so twice as many green photosites as R, B ?
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| 12:38 | Bertl | yup
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| 12:38 | FergusL | yep
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| 12:38 | FergusL | I made a dumb python script that debayers and dumps to the format of your choice (almost anything)
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| 12:39 | Bertl | recent .raw8/.raw16 append the sensor registers at the end
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| 12:39 | FergusL | gcolburn also made one that dumps the raw to dng
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| 12:42 | FergusL | has anyone uploaded a good quality debayered 16bits tiff from the IT8 shot ?
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| 12:44 | Bertl | I don't think so
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| 12:46 | FergusL | hm hm
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| 12:47 | FergusL | I see there are also conversations about the cooling
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| 13:18 | intracube | Bertl: sorry for the newbie question, what do you mean by sensor registers?
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| 13:19 | Bertl | the sensor has 128 registers to configure how an image is captured
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| 13:19 | Bertl | those are 16 bit registers, so 256 bytes are added at the end of newer .raw* files
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| 13:21 | intracube | ah ok
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| 13:22 | intracube | thanks
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| 13:23 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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| 13:30 | FergusL | might be useful to have a script that reads the registers off the raw files
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| 13:31 | Bertl | reading them can be done with dd, interpreting them would be useful
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| 13:31 | Bertl | but I suggested that a few weeks (months?) ago
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| 13:32 | FergusL | I could volunteer for this task
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| 13:32 | Bertl | if you like, give it a try
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| 13:33 | FergusL | but I thought there might be more exciting things to do right now, to help
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| 13:35 | Bertl | feel free to pick something more exciting :)
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| 13:36 | Bertl | in case somebody wonders: 'dd bs=256 skip=98303 if=<file.raw16>' will extract the sensor registers
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| 13:37 | FergusL | thanks
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| 13:38 | FergusL | seek(width*height*2,0) and then read(256) should do the same in python on the file
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| 13:39 | Bertl | seek is always a bad idea, because it requires a file
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| 13:39 | Bertl | i.e. doesn't work the unix way with pipes
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| 13:39 | FergusL | isn't it a file ?
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| 13:39 | FergusL | yes, doesn't work with pipes, unless it's wrapped
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| 13:39 | Bertl | it may be a file, but it might as well come from a pipe
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| 13:40 | Bertl | so you would need to create a temporary file which is ugly and unneccesary
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| 13:40 | Bertl | change the seek to a read and you're fine :)
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| 14:53 | se6astian | see you
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| 15:41 | intracube | FergusL: does the padding you mentioned only apply to the .raw16 files?
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| 15:41 | intracube | ie 12bit data padded to 16bit?
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| 15:41 | intracube | or are the 8bit variants padded somehow
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| 15:42 | Bertl | yep, the lower 4 bits on raw16 are zeroes
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| 15:42 | Bertl | i.e. the 4 LSBs
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| 15:42 | intracube | ok
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| 15:43 | intracube | and the bits are just truncated to fit the .raw8 format?
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| 15:44 | Bertl | yup, basically the 8 MSBs are the .raw8
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| 15:44 | intracube | ah cool
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| 15:44 | intracube | thanks Bertl
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| 15:44 | Bertl | np
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| 19:20 | FergusL | purely random, any idea what kind of wood are the Aaton cameras handles (cc troy_s, rexbron)
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| 19:29 | Bertl | back now ...
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| 19:36 | rexbron | FergusL: Walnut or Cherry I believe
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| 19:56 | FergusL | it's indeed walnut, found a few reference for that
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| 21:03 | rexbron | FergusL: is you code posted anywhere?
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