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| 05:04 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 05:46 | comradekingu | good morning :)
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| 05:46 | Bertl | how's going?
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| 06:00 | comradekingu | Just had the flu, chopping wood at my cabin mostly, and rigging up sound-system
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| 06:00 | Bertl | welcome to the club
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| 06:00 | comradekingu | We have fiber and delivered post, so its remarkably good
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| 06:01 | Bertl | I'm still at 50% brain capacity :/
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| 06:01 | comradekingu | welcome to my life;)
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| 06:01 | comradekingu | Made some logos and written some prose
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| 06:02 | comradekingu | One got used http://flif.info/
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| 06:02 | comradekingu | :)))
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| 06:03 | comradekingu | I find the company of wild animals prefrable to the droves of humans in the city
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| 06:05 | Bertl | nice, although I had made it a block by using a | as L and the i at the same height (including the dot)
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| 06:06 | comradekingu | (took me a while to figure out you were talking about the logo)
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| 06:08 | Bertl | the logo? no no *G*
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| 06:12 | comradekingu | doing it that way ruins the flow, and there is no negative 14
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| 06:13 | comradekingu | and its a slection of different letters, as opposed to compressed ones
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| 06:14 | comradekingu | to do it you would have to start out with a bigger F and then end on a even smaller F
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| 06:38 | Bertl | how so?
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| 06:57 | comradekingu | So that it scales
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| 06:57 | comradekingu | from big to small
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| 06:58 | comradekingu | I like to put some intrinsic sense in my designs, you can see some here http://portfolio.anotheragency.no/
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| 07:03 | Bertl | I meant like this: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/flif.png
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| 07:08 | comradekingu | I know, i have a draft like that
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| 07:09 | Bertl | so that had too little flow for you or what are you saying?
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| 07:10 | Bertl | don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising here, logos are a matter of personal taste ...
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| 07:11 | comradekingu | yes, it has no 14, and no splif, nor the flow. Flow is hard to explain, its about energy pointing in a pattern
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| 07:11 | Bertl | so what do you think of the AXIOM logo then? (just curious :)
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| 07:13 | comradekingu | the L i is a pair, a circle missing whats outside of it. The l i is two bars missing the dot
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| 07:13 | comradekingu | i like it, one of the reasons i like the axiom project so much
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| 07:13 | comradekingu | I know people say logos and such arent important, but to me it is, all details matter to me
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| 07:15 | Bertl | glad you like it then!
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| 08:24 | John_K | if I were to fab my own set of Axiom Beta PCBs, is there a stable (ish) set of schematics/board layouts that would be recommended
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| 08:26 | Bertl | yes, the latest ones are usually the best choice
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| 08:26 | Bertl | you can directly order the PCBs via OSHpark if you like
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| 08:29 | Bertl | (or you can make your own boards from the gerbers if you prefer)
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| 08:29 | John_K | ah yes, I see some new ones were just uploaded
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| 08:29 | John_K | is there much difference between r1.3 and r1.4 for the sensor board?
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| 08:29 | Bertl | nah, they were just shared, because I forgot to do so
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| 08:30 | Bertl | r1.4 adds some fixes to the cream layer, we have been working on that recently
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| 08:30 | John_K | I've got two CMV12000 sensors here and a microzed, looking to put them to good use and contribute where I can
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| 08:30 | John_K | cream layer?
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| 08:30 | Bertl | for the solder paste stencil
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| 08:30 | John_K | ahhh
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| 08:31 | Bertl | just let me know if you're missing anything, I'm sure we can provide it
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| 08:32 | John_K | good to know, does the VHDL live anywhere? I didn't see anything on the github project
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| 08:33 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/cmv_hdmi3/
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| 08:33 | Bertl | yeah, the git repository needs some updating, but we haven't gotten to that yet either
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| 08:39 | John_K | which ZIF socket is being used for the CMV12000?
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| 08:39 | John_K | is it one of Andon's?
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| 08:40 | Bertl | nope, didn't even know andon had matching ZIF sockets
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| 08:40 | Bertl | it is a 604 microPGA socket normally used for processors
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| 08:40 | John_K | it doesn't appear to be specified in the sensor board BOM
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| 08:40 | John_K | oh
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| 08:41 | Bertl | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_604
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| 08:44 | John_K | https://www.dropbox.com/s/kvvqo6kwy1tmzpj/CMOSIS%20MASTER1%2015%202015.pdf?dl=0
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| 08:45 | John_K | is the Andon socket guide for CMOSIS
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| 08:45 | Bertl | requires an account
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| 08:45 | John_K | ah, true
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| 08:45 | John_K | shouldn't to see the pdf
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| 08:46 | Bertl | and yes, we use the andon socket in the non ZIF version
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| 08:46 | Bertl | (which still needs to be updated to the latest changes)
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| 08:46 | John_K | ok
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| 08:47 | John_K | is the manufacturer and model of the socket 604 ZIF adapter being used documented somewhere?
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| 08:47 | John_K | or should I just ask? ;)
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| 08:47 | Bertl | just the ZIF is much more comfortable for swapping the sensor
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| 08:47 | John_K | yeah, that makes total sense
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| 08:47 | Bertl | it is a foxconn 604 mPGA socket and you can probably find it for a few bucks on aliexpress or so
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| 08:48 | Bertl | they come in different forms and shapes
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| 08:49 | Bertl | http://www.motherboards.org/images/reviews/hardware/1221_p3_3.jpg this is the shape we use
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| 08:50 | John_K | this looks to be a close match, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-NEW-CPU-MPGA604-SOCKET/32373856482.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.1.eQvRbR&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_1,searchweb201527_2_71_72_73_74_75,searchweb201560_9
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| 08:51 | Bertl | yeah, that one looks fine
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| 08:52 | John_K | ok cool
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| 08:53 | Bertl | the reflow is a little tricky, but the result can be easily verified with the [nm] version of the PCB
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| 08:54 | Bertl | (which allows access to the vias from the bottom side)
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| 08:54 | John_K | makes sense
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| 09:10 | John_K | thanks for the info Bertl, will be ordering a set of PCBs from OSHPark in the morning
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| 09:11 | Bertl | let me know if anything is not shared there, you might want to get one or two of the plugin modules as well
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| 09:16 | John_K | is the SD slot on the power board connected to the Zynq?
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| 09:16 | John_K | because all I really need for my application is a data SD card
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| 09:16 | John_K | don't need HDMI
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| 09:18 | Bertl | yeah, the SD slot is connected to the PS
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| 09:18 | Bertl | you might still want the triple PMOD plugin for debugging or so
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| 09:19 | Bertl | usually helps to have a few I/O pins easily accessible
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| 09:19 | John_K | true
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| 09:23 | Bertl | https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/lJ90ygq1
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| 20:51 | se6astian | time for bed
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| 23:01 | Bertl | back now ...
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