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| 17:49 | nmdis199- | Good evening everyone!
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| 17:55 | se6astian | good evening, meeting in 5 minutes
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| 18:00 | Bertl | Today we'll do a special edition of our IRC meeting ... first because it will be the last before GSoC 2018 ends and then we want to recapture what was done during GSoC and figure out what we can change in the future
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| 18:01 | nmdis199- | That sounds great :)
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| 18:01 | se6astian | meeting time!
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| 18:01 | Bertl | | 18:01 | Bertl | | 18:01 | se6astian | so I hope we will have many attending for this last edition
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| 18:02 | Bertl | | 18:03 | Bertl | I've opened all the final GSoC project proposals you (the students) submitted as well as the task descriptions to each of the selected tasks
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| 18:03 | se6astian | lets still do the run where everone gets a chance to speak/report one after the other
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| 18:04 | nmdis199- | okay! :)
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| 18:04 | Bertl | | 18:05 | se6astian | please pm me now for reporting
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| 18:06 | se6astian | nmdis199-: please go ahead
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| 18:06 | nmdis199- | Alright!
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| 18:07 | nmdis199- | So, most of my tasks were finished last week, I talked to alex about it and started documenting and creating github.io repo
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| 18:07 | nmdis199- | This week, I just cleaned my directories on beta, cleaned/added anything which was left in source code or documentation.
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| 18:07 | nmdis199- | All tools which were promised in timelines are ready and working on beta, the test result images are uploaded in doc, I have added link to source code and documentation here -> nmdis1999.github.io
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| 18:08 | nmdis199- | I've got the results checked, and I think I'm ready to submit evaluation today.
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| 18:08 | nmdis199- | That's all
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| 18:08 | se6astian | great, thanks
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| 18:08 | se6astian | lets see if anyone else is arround?
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| 18:09 | se6astian | supragya?
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| 18:09 | Bertl | nmdis199-: thanks, so looking at the submitted proposal, I see ...
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| 18:09 | supragyaraj | Well, I have submitted the final eval yesterday
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| 18:09 | se6astian | ArunM: ?
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| 18:09 | supragyaraj | g3gg0 checked up on me yesterday, and I updated the final work product
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| 18:09 | se6astian | rahul__: ?
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| 18:09 | Bertl | nmdis199-: image cropping, extension of the cmv_hist3 tool, etc?
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| 18:10 | Bertl | nmdis199-: what of those parts were implemented?
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| 18:10 | supragyaraj | Also, g3gg0 gave a green light to me before me submitting the final eval... So that's it I guess
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| 18:10 | nmdis199- | I made tool histogram.c instead (recommended by you) instead which was addition, I did suggested the image cropping algo in first month if I remember correctly.
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| 18:11 | nmdis199- | But later on we started working on reading/writing tool
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| 18:11 | se6astian | ymc98: ?
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| 18:11 | nmdis199- | I think I mentioned the addition task on nmdis1999.github.io about reading/writing into memory etc
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| 18:12 | Bertl | nmdis199-: so, short overview what 'new' tools are available now and what the plans for the future are maybe?
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| 18:12 | nmdis199- | basically now we have histogram, waveform (rgb parade) and vectorscope tool which are working on 12-bit raw data values.
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| 18:13 | nmdis199- | I've talked about adding some better features in waveform and vectorscope tools, will talk to alex again soon
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| 18:13 | alexML | nmdis199-: any sample images since last week?
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| 18:13 | rahul__ | hello everyone
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| 18:13 | nmdis199- | added everything in documentation @alexML
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| 18:13 | nmdis199- | sebastian checked them :)
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| 18:14 | Bertl | okay, thanks
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| 18:14 | nmdis199- | :)
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| 18:14 | Bertl | | 18:14 | nmdis199- | I wanted to ask alex, that he worked on similar kind of tools in magic latern, if I remember our discussion, I'd like to read his codes and work and improve the current tool
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| 18:15 | nmdis199- | so we can basically extend it maybe.
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| 18:15 | alexML | I only see some plain histograms (i.e. no RGB) and some scatter dots labeled as "waveform" and "vectorscope", i.e. not exactly what I'd see on a camera screen
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| 18:15 | alexML | please compare with the initial proposal
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| 18:16 | se6astian | nmdis199-: sebastian checked them <- lets more call it, "I provided some feedback and improvement suggestions"
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| 18:16 | nmdis199- | yes, right.
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| 18:16 | Bertl | nmdis199-: IIRC, you are planning to spend some extra time on those tools in the forseeable future, right?
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| 18:17 | nmdis199- | yes, definitely .
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| 18:19 | Bertl | | 18:19 | Bertl | okay, so supragyaraj, you want to tell us something about what you did during GSoC and what the new features are now?
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| 18:20 | Bertl | ArunM: would also like to know the current status ...
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| 18:20 | supragyaraj | So, during GSoC, there were 2-3 different things we achieved
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| 18:21 | Bertl | ymc98: same goes for you ...
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| 18:21 | supragyaraj | First, we created the way with which we will encapsulate all the meta and video frames and discussed the pathway for that
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| 18:21 | supragyaraj | also, some discussion went into what beta will have to do... in order to record mlv
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| 18:22 | supragyaraj | then, we created an emulation of the recording end and tested it's speed etc
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| 18:22 | supragyaraj | after this, some time went into configuring the mlv structures to make it more suitable for beta
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| 18:23 | supragyaraj | this means, we changed a few values, added a PLR block (theoretically), changed the color matrix etc
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| 18:23 | supragyaraj | Finally, we shifted to the conversion from MLV to CDNG... tinkered around with MLVFS and MLV_DUMP
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| 18:24 | supragyaraj | we added a linearization table in order to affect the CDNG according to the theoretical PLR block that we proposed
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| 18:24 | supragyaraj | after this, all of this was packaged into single repo, with added scripts for anyone to run them
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| 18:24 | supragyaraj | this is the final work product
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| 18:25 | supragyaraj | in the last few weeks, I went back to look at other formats that we originally had taken into consideration for comparison
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| 18:25 | supragyaraj | and documented those....
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| 18:25 | supragyaraj | while they are effective... eg ProRes or Cineform, they need quite a bit of changes to beta in order to incorporate
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| 18:26 | supragyaraj | MLV was still the most straightforward solution we can get
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| 18:26 | supragyaraj | The GSoC project ends here... but still requires future work
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| 18:26 | supragyaraj | basically on 2 domains:
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| 18:27 | supragyaraj | 1. Implement this system into beta... so that recording end can be joined to it and "really work"
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| 18:27 | supragyaraj | 2. change current mlvfs/mlv_dump code in order to make PLR changes and add beta's color matrix among other things
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| 18:28 | Bertl | do you plan to continue working on those after GSoC?
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| 18:28 | supragyaraj | I plan to... yes..
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| 18:28 | Bertl | excellent! thanks
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| 18:28 | se6astian | great to hear! :D
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| 18:28 | supragyaraj | But the project that I plan to take over sooner than that would be opencine's frameserver
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| 18:28 | se6astian | also a great thing!
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| 18:28 | supragyaraj | that I had proposed... BAndiT is working on it now
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| 18:29 | Bertl | rahul__: I think you're up next
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| 18:29 | rahul__ | ok
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| 18:30 | se6astian | yes please rahul__ go ahead
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| 18:33 | Bertl | rahul__: ?
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| 18:33 | rahul__ | so, I had finished my IP design as well as successful simulations in the first two months. the last month was trying to place the IP in the beta pipeline, then the last week I visited the office in Vienna to expedite the work. after discussions with Bertl, I placed the IP in the output pipeline, (just after the frame reader) but after some experiments it shows that the pipeline was not able to handle delays (if the IP is
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| 18:33 | rahul__ | placed in that position) So I am trying to place the IP now in the TMDS encoding unit itself and hope that the data streams smoothly from my pipelie
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| 18:33 | rahul__ | but I am not sure wether this would be possible by today
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| 18:34 | Bertl | well, we don't know about the delays yet :)
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| 18:34 | ymc98 | Hello everyone. I made a blog post describing the project, my progress and what's left to be completed. Here's a link : https://ymc98472005768.wordpress.com. Made few changes in the design for transceivers for MachXO2. With these changes incorporated, there isn't any requirement of having a 10 bit dummy data between packets for the serialization and deserialization. Also, the documentation to my code can be found here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r7
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| 18:34 | rahul__ | so I will be submitting my packged IP as well as the simulation code and results for the final evaluation,
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| 18:35 | rahul__ | I will also be submiting
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| 18:35 | rahul__ | the beta code which incorporates my IP in the planned position
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| 18:35 | rahul__ | the presentattion as well as report will be on my github link soon today
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| 18:35 | Bertl | ymc98: I know you haven't participated in many IRC meetings but the proper approach is to notify se6astian that you want to report and he will schedule your report
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| 18:36 | ymc98 | Sorry. It's an accident
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| 18:36 | rahul__ | so, I will be in touch with Bertl for sucessful working on beta
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| 18:37 | Bertl | rahul__: checking with the original proposal, it looks like you are in Week 10 of your plans ...
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| 18:37 | Bertl | what were the main (unexpected) problems you encountered?
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| 18:38 | rahul__ | yes, week 10 to 12 was to implement in the beta...but its not working properly as you know,,,, that was the main reason i came personally to vienna
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| 18:39 | rahul__ | the main problem was not with the IP but understanding the pipeline(still struggling) as the dumentations were limited, so I tried many ways to incorporate the IP in the pipeline(as we have many discussions)
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| 18:39 | se6astian | thanks rahul__
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| 18:39 | se6astian | so ymc98 your turn now!
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| 18:39 | Bertl | rahul__: integrating new code into existing designs is always tricky
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| 18:39 | rahul__ | but the timing flow of the information was the main issue
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| 18:40 | Bertl | okay, do you plan to continue working on this after GSoC?
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| 18:40 | rahul__ | surely
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| 18:40 | Bertl | glad to hear!
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| 18:40 | rahul__ | I want to see my IP working on the screen, bot just in simulations
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| 18:40 | rahul__ | also as we had discussed
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| 18:40 | rahul__ | I want to work with partial reconfigurations
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| 18:41 | se6astian | about that: I installed a HDMI to USB capture card in the remote beta setup today
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| 18:41 | Bertl | yes, sounds good to me
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| 18:41 | se6astian | we still need to get it to work under linux though
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| 18:41 | Bertl | ymc98: okay, your turn finally :)
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| 18:41 | ymc98 | Sorry for the interruption before. As i mentioned previously I made a blog post describing the project, my progress and what's left to be completed. Here's a link : https://ymc98472005768.wordpress.com. Made few changes in the design of transceivers for MachXO2. With these changes incorporated, there isn't any requirement of having a 10 bit data gap between packets for the serialization and deserialization. Also, the documentation to my code can be found he
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| 18:43 | ymc98 | Working on synchronizer circuits to resolve issues of clock domain crossing. That's all.
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| 18:43 | Bertl | so, what is working as of today?
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| 18:43 | supragyaraj | An update ymc98, kindly use this link -> https://ymc98472005768.wordpress.com/2018/08/07/gsoc_project_summary/ instead of https://ymc98472005768.wordpress.com when submitting to google. Also https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r7 is an invalid link resulting in 404.
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| 18:44 | ymc98 | SERDES transceivers for zynq and machxo2
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| 18:44 | ymc98 | Are working
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| 18:45 | Bertl | okay, that's week 3 in your final proposal
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| 18:45 | Bertl | did you succeed in having a working communication between Zynq and MachXO2?
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| 18:46 | ymc98 | Not yet. Working on it.
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| 18:47 | Bertl | okay, so I take it you plan to continue working on this after GSoC, yes?
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| 18:47 | ymc98 | That's a yes
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| 18:48 | ymc98 | I plan to fully completed the project
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| 18:48 | Bertl | good to hear!
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| 18:48 | se6astian | wonderful!
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| 18:48 | Bertl | so, unless I miscounted, we had four reports, right?
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| 18:49 | BAndiT1983 | TofuLynx is on vacation
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| 18:49 | se6astian | Tofulynx is missing and ArunM
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| 18:49 | Bertl | ArunM: care to say a few words?
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| 18:49 | BAndiT1983 | thought he would return today, as he said 10th to 13th
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| 18:49 | se6astian | BAndiT1983: can you give a quick summary of Tofulynx latest progress?
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| 18:50 | BAndiT1983 | give me a sec
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| 18:50 | BAndiT1983 | notified him about meeting, as i'Ve got a PM through lab from him
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| 18:51 | BAndiT1983 | but overall we have a very good progress, which still needs evaluations, but this relies on the architecture etc.
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| 18:51 | Bertl | okay, so let's use the time to ask for feedback from the students
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| 18:51 | BAndiT1983 | Claudio has implemented and improved plain debayer processors, also ones in openmp and also fixed parallelization problems there
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| 18:51 | supragyaraj | Btw, are final evals organizations' evaluations or mentor's evaluation of the student? I'm just curious.
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| 18:52 | BAndiT1983 | no email from google so far, probably it's org related
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| 18:53 | BAndiT1983 | Claudio cannot attend, he ist still 45mins away from home
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| 18:53 | Bertl | nmdis199-: supragyaraj: rahul__: ymc98: what could be improved for next years GSoC?
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| 18:53 | nmdis199- | shall I say ?
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| 18:54 | Bertl | sure, that's why I ask :)
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| 18:55 | Bertl | note that this will not influence your evaluation, but I guess that should be clear by now :)
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| 18:55 | nmdis199- | I think I loved the challenge part (before applying), adding familiarity with linux in project/task description could be helpful. I really liked the weekly meetings, so that should definitely stay :)
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| 18:55 | se6astian | Final evaluations should be mentor evaluations like the previous evaluation stages, they start after the deadline tomorrow and mentors have one week to complete them
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| 18:56 | nmdis199- | Overall I really enjoyed working here, I learned a lot. This being my first project had a really positive impact on me :)
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| 18:56 | se6astian | great to hear, linux knowledge and meetings duely noted
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| 18:57 | rahul__ | As my experience, I really liked the way mentors responded and helped all along the way, The only issue that I faced (may not be the same for the rest) is the lack of detailed documentation of the code as most of the productive time went into that, so if the organisation could support the code base with proper documentation, then that would be really helpful for both the next lot of students as well the organisation, and as I
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| 18:57 | rahul__ | had suggested in Vienna, I am willing to help for that cause as most of the slides in my presentation describes/ documents the all the signals involved in the output beta pipeline.
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| 18:58 | supragyaraj | Well, i found this with magic lantern too....
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| 18:58 | nmdis199- | if I can help in documentation, I'll be willing to.
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| 18:59 | supragyaraj | code was not in one place... maybe I am wrong too...
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| 18:59 | Bertl | documentation in FOSS/OH is ofter bad, unless there are people with passion for documentation :)
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| 18:59 | supragyaraj | but could not find a central place to find my references
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| 18:59 | Bertl | that's not an excuse, that is just stating a fact
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| 18:59 | supragyaraj | Bertl: Like RexOrCine :)
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| 18:59 | supragyaraj | he said he is passionate about documentations etc :)
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| 19:00 | Bertl | yes, the main problem is that most folks who code/build do not want to spend time on documentation and those who like documenting often do not have the insight required ... it needs a lot of effort to make it happen :)
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| 19:01 | BAndiT1983 | or your manager tells you to create one, but still nobody reads it and makes mistakes in code ;)
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| 19:01 | Bertl | that said, documentation is very important and I'm happy to hear that you want to help out there
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| 19:02 | Bertl | anything else you'd like to see improved in the future?
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| 19:02 | nmdis199- | if that can make students understand stuff easily, it makes sense to help maintain them :) Maybe we (students) can help in it.
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| 19:03 | supragyaraj | Genuinely, I don't think we can practically improve anywhere
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| 19:03 | supragyaraj | "practically", not talking about utopian world
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| 19:03 | se6astian | you can participate a second year by the way :)
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| 19:04 | rahul__ | yes, surely I think we GSOC students can contribute to this organisation in a big way like that after the GSOC ends....
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| 19:04 | supragyaraj | or can help out others who take up the project too. ;)
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| 19:04 | rahul__ | by preparing a well documented code base
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| 19:04 | rahul__ | that could be really helpful for the future
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| 19:05 | BAndiT1983 | which kind of code docs would be suitable?
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| 19:05 | supragyaraj | I would say, documentation to a point is required, but after that, overdocumentation is bad for code changes etc
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| 19:05 | Bertl | @students: okay then, thanks for the feedback and hope to see you all around in the future :)
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| 19:05 | nmdis199- | :)
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| 19:06 | rahul__ | :)
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| 19:06 | BAndiT1983 | doxygen is adds too much code, just my opinion, if we can find something which parses the code from outside and creates docs, this would be better
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| 19:06 | BAndiT1983 | *doxygen adds
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| 19:07 | Bertl | ArunM: if you join later for whatever reason, please do not hesitate to contact us and/or give a short report
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| 19:07 | supragyaraj | Btw, where can we get hold of AXIOM merchs? those tees look awesome ;)
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| 19:07 | nmdis199- | they do indeed :)
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| 19:07 | se6astian | ah good idea
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| 19:08 | se6astian | because we are almost out of the standard sized ones
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| 19:08 | se6astian | only a few very small or very large ones left
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| 19:08 | se6astian | I will seek to get new ones produced
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| 19:08 | nmdis199- | very small would work for me :P
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| 19:08 | se6astian | will take a bit of time though
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| 19:08 | se6astian | great :D
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| 19:08 | nmdis199- | Thanks! excited for tee xD
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| 19:09 | Bertl | I think we will manage to send you some other stuff as well, like stickers and such ...
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| 19:09 | supragyaraj | so, we getting it? XD...
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| 19:09 | BAndiT1983 | will the t-shirt print layouts be open-sourced? ;)
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| 19:09 | nmdis199- | WOW, Bertl, that's bonus!
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| 19:09 | se6astian | you will get it :)
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| 19:09 | se6astian | but dont expect it too soon
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| 19:09 | supragyaraj | Bertl: you said what we just wanted to say.... :)
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| 19:10 | nmdis199- | okay, no problem, can wait :)
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| 19:10 | se6astian | I will get in touch with you when the time comes about tshirt sizes, shipping addresses, etc.
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| 19:10 | rahul__ | Thank you Apertus for giving such an opportunity , It was really pleasure working with you, I hope the the organisation meets its aims in the future. and yes Vienna was lovely!
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| 19:11 | se6astian | very happy to hear
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| 19:11 | rahul__ | also I hope sabestian will make a better curry when we meet next time :P
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| 19:11 | nmdis199- | Thank you, se6astian!
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| 19:11 | se6astian | so to conclude I can only extend my big thank you to you all who participated: students and mentors alike
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| 19:12 | Bertl | indeed, thanks to everyone and keep up the good work!
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| 19:12 | se6astian | with an open source projects its always a coming and going and its hard to find long term contributors, having you around made everyone else more active and dedicated as well :D
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| 19:13 | nmdis199- | I think apertus found some this year :) But in all thanks really for letting me work here. I'll miss weekly meetings though!
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| 19:14 | Bertl | we had them before GSoC, so I don't see a problem having them in the future as well
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| 19:14 | BAndiT1983 | nmdis199-: there is not much problem to revive them, we had bi-monthly meetings before, but it requires some people to attend
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| 19:14 | Bertl | | 19:15 | nmdis199- | Okay, great! :)
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| 19:15 | se6astian | ok meeting concluded for today, you are very welcome to stick around (short term and long term) and feel free to ponder your mentors about tasks now after gsoc
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| 19:15 | nmdis199- | Goodnight everyone!
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| 19:16 | supragyaraj | Gn
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