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|  | 01:20 | Bertl |     off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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|  | 06:43 | Bertl |     morning folks!
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|  | 11:34 | rainer_vie |     hi
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|  | 11:39 | rainer_vie |     what do you think about adding a super16 sized sensor like this one: https://www.aptina.com/products/dslr/ar1011hs/
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|  | 12:15 | Bertl |     basically that would be fine, but the aptina sensors seem to be a bad choice for several reasons: for one, they are very secret about them and you won't get datasheets easily (try it) and then they use HiSPi another proprietary protocol which isn't openly available
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|  | 12:16 | rainer_vie |     ah ok... thx for info... so aptina is not a godd choice
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|  | 12:16 | Bertl |     so, to even consider it, we would at least require openly available datasheet and protocol documentation
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|  | 12:19 | Bertl |     from the technical side, the rolling shutter is not the best option either, but power consumption and sensitivity seem to be fine for the given sensor size
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|  | 12:21 | Bertl |     from the package, socketing is non trivial, although I think there are sockets available
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|  | 12:35 | rainer_vie |     ok thx
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|  | 12:38 | Bertl |     doesn't mean that you a) can't try to convince them to open up, or b) find a similar sensor from a different (more open) manufacturer
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|  | 12:50 | rainer_vie |     an older but long list of manufacturers: http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.co.at/p/image-sensor-companies-list.html
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|  | 12:56 | Bertl |     nice, maybe filter them a little based on obvious criteria?
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|  | 13:00 | rainer_vie |     i will looking a little bit into it
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|  | 14:48 | danhanes |     sebastian: nice work on the Beta announcement.  Any more info available ?
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|  | 14:48 | danhanes |     (archtiecture, timeframe, start of crowdfunding ?)
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|  | 18:01 | se6astian |     hi danhanes, no more info available yet, after we finished the EU grant application we will shift focus, currently I have no time for anything else to manage
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|  | 19:17 | danhanes |     sebastian: Thanks
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|  | 20:12 | troy_s |     se6astian: Do you think that with such a ridiculously small number of current involvement that another mailing list is needed?
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|  | 20:13 | troy_s |     (Seems a wee bit like getting a larger fishbowl for a few guppies.)
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|  | 22:10 | se6astian |     well the risk we take to create a new one is low
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|  | 22:10 | se6astian |     so if it does not work out no harm done
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|  | 22:10 | se6astian |     but if it does work it would be a great benefit for users and for us
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|  | 22:11 | se6astian |     also its a good message to say we already provide a communication channel to connect those who share the desire/interested in the Beta
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|  | 22:12 | se6astian |     once the campaign will get more defined the number of guppies could turn into a large swarm :)
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|  | 22:12 | se6astian |     anyway
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|  | 22:12 | se6astian |     time for bed!
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|  | 22:12 | se6astian |     good night
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|  | 22:15 | Bertl |     and it would be significantly more work to move folks from one group to the other when that happens :)
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