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2021/12/11

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Bertl_oO
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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21:14
vup
Bertl_oO: is there a equivalent to the oshpark-4layer.cam compatible with the boards done with eagle 6?
21:14
vup
(the layer numbers don't seem to match up between eagle 6 and 7)
21:26
Bertl_oO
hmm, good question, do we still have eagle 6 boards?
21:27
Bertl_oO
we probably should convert them to eagle 7 anyway
21:27
Bertl_oO
(should be simple load and save I guess)
21:29
vup
well I downloaded all the boards I could find under the apertus stuff from your file server and from files.apertus.org, and there are some that are still eagle 6, for one the alpha boards: https://files.apertus.org/HARDWARE/AXIOM/ALPHA/
21:29
vup
but also these: https://files.apertus.org/HARDWARE/AXIOM/PMOD/
21:30
vup
if I load one of these in eagle 7 they still have _tsilk as layer number 61 for example, while the eagle 7 board have _tsilk as layer number 53
21:36
Bertl_oO
hmm, okay those are custom layers
21:37
Bertl_oO
we probably should rewrite them with a sed script
21:39
vup
right, do have some list with 6 -> 7 mappings or so? Then it should be easy to integrate
21:40
Bertl_oO
nah, I guess that was something which 'happened' but it should actually be limited to _<name> layers
21:40
Bertl_oO
and to be honest, I doubt we had more than the t/bsilk there ...
21:40
Bertl_oO
(at least relevant for cam jobs)
21:41
vup
there is also _tstop and _bstop, what are those used for?
21:44
Bertl_oO
I think that was an attempt to create custom solder masks
21:44
Bertl_oO
not sure where I used that ...
21:45
Bertl_oO
maybe they are there but empty?
21:46
vup
I opened up one random board: axiom_beta_main_board_v0.38_r1.2.brd and that one has them and they are not empty
21:46
Bertl_oO
okay, but that isn't an eagle 6 file or is it?
21:46
vup
ah no
21:47
Bertl_oO
so in eagle 6, if there are any, I would assume they are empty
21:47
Bertl_oO
but to be honest, I do not remember ...
21:50
vup
right looking through them...
21:53
vup
yeah looks like none of the eagle 6 boards use it
22:03
Bertl_oO
okay, so shouldn't be a problem then
22:04
Bertl_oO
we might need to create them in the converted files though to make eagle 7 happy
22:55
vup
they are not used in the oshpark-4layer.cam, which other place would them missing make eagle unhappy?
22:58
Bertl_oO
ah, then it's fine
22:59
vup
or is them not being used for the cam jobs a problem?
23:00
Bertl_oO
well, if the layers are used in the board files, they probably should go into the cam as well ;)
23:04
vup
well I mean for example axiom_beta_main_board_v0.38_r1.2.brd has a non empty _tStop, but its not used in this cam job file: https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/pcb-paneliser/blob/master/input/oshpark-4layer.cam
23:04
vup
which should be the one used to create gerbers for the panels from the aforementioned board