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20:14 | vup | Bertl_oO: is there a equivalent to the oshpark-4layer.cam compatible with the boards done with eagle 6?
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20:14 | vup | (the layer numbers don't seem to match up between eagle 6 and 7)
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20:26 | Bertl_oO | hmm, good question, do we still have eagle 6 boards?
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20:27 | Bertl_oO | we probably should convert them to eagle 7 anyway
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20:27 | Bertl_oO | (should be simple load and save I guess)
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20:29 | vup | well I downloaded all the boards I could find under the apertus stuff from your file server and from files.apertus.org, and there are some that are still eagle 6, for one the alpha boards: https://files.apertus.org/HARDWARE/AXIOM/ALPHA/
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20:29 | vup | but also these: https://files.apertus.org/HARDWARE/AXIOM/PMOD/
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20:30 | vup | if I load one of these in eagle 7 they still have _tsilk as layer number 61 for example, while the eagle 7 board have _tsilk as layer number 53
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20:36 | Bertl_oO | hmm, okay those are custom layers
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20:37 | Bertl_oO | we probably should rewrite them with a sed script
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20:39 | vup | right, do have some list with 6 -> 7 mappings or so? Then it should be easy to integrate
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20:40 | Bertl_oO | nah, I guess that was something which 'happened' but it should actually be limited to _<name> layers
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20:40 | Bertl_oO | and to be honest, I doubt we had more than the t/bsilk there ...
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20:40 | Bertl_oO | (at least relevant for cam jobs)
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20:41 | vup | there is also _tstop and _bstop, what are those used for?
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20:44 | Bertl_oO | I think that was an attempt to create custom solder masks
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20:44 | Bertl_oO | not sure where I used that ...
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20:45 | Bertl_oO | maybe they are there but empty?
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20:46 | vup | I opened up one random board: axiom_beta_main_board_v0.38_r1.2.brd and that one has them and they are not empty
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20:46 | Bertl_oO | okay, but that isn't an eagle 6 file or is it?
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20:46 | vup | ah no
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20:47 | Bertl_oO | so in eagle 6, if there are any, I would assume they are empty
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20:47 | Bertl_oO | but to be honest, I do not remember ...
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20:50 | vup | right looking through them...
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20:53 | vup | yeah looks like none of the eagle 6 boards use it
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21:03 | Bertl_oO | okay, so shouldn't be a problem then
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21:04 | Bertl_oO | we might need to create them in the converted files though to make eagle 7 happy
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21:55 | vup | they are not used in the oshpark-4layer.cam, which other place would them missing make eagle unhappy?
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21:58 | Bertl_oO | ah, then it's fine
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21:59 | vup | or is them not being used for the cam jobs a problem?
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22:00 | Bertl_oO | well, if the layers are used in the board files, they probably should go into the cam as well ;)
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22:04 | vup | well I mean for example axiom_beta_main_board_v0.38_r1.2.brd has a non empty _tStop, but its not used in this cam job file: https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/pcb-paneliser/blob/master/input/oshpark-4layer.cam
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22:04 | vup | which should be the one used to create gerbers for the panels from the aforementioned board
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