22:08 | Wescotte | Hello
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22:16 | troy_s_ | dmj_nova: Not better. Mandatory.
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22:16 | troy_s_ | dmj_nova: The aesthetic of anamorphic is predicated on a vertically moving 35mm (24mm wide) gate at 4:3
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22:17 | troy_s_ | dmj_nova: If one tries to do anamorphic on a 16x9 sensor that is 24mm wide, you end up having to pillar bar the landing gate region in order to correctly unsquish it.
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22:18 | troy_s_ | dmj_nova: In doing so, you are effectively diminishing the sensor size significantly, and significantly degrading the anamorphic depth of field aesthetic.
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22:51 | dmj_nova | troy_s_: yes. I said "better" in that you *could* shoot anamorphic with a 16x9 sensor, but it would be like trying to use an APS-C sensor instead of full frame
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23:54 | troy_s_ | dmj_nova: Yes. Wouldn't make sense. Would give an unstretched DoF roughly that of standard Super35.
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23:54 | troy_s_ | Strange.
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00:44 | Bertl | back now ..
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00:45 | Sasha_C | welcome back Bertl :)
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00:49 | Bertl | any reason why anamorphic would be of any interest in digital photography/cinema?
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01:09 | dmj_nova | Bertl: It gives a different look than spherical lenses
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01:10 | dmj_nova | It also gives some additional vertical resolution/uses more of a 4x3 sensor when you're shooting for widescreen
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01:10 | Bertl | well, of course, but why would you want that and if you want it, why not do it as part of the post processing?
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01:11 | dmj_nova | Bertl: you can't get that different look in post (at least not without shooting deep focus and reconstructing the scene in 3D
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01:12 | Bertl | hmm, so folks 'use' it because of the distortions not despite of nowadays?
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01:12 | dmj_nova | Plus, there are a lot of quality anamorphic lenses out there
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01:13 | dmj_nova | yeah, hell JJ Abrams whole shtick relies on anamorphic (for better or worse)
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01:14 | Bertl | interesting
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01:14 | dmj_nova | The original reason for anamorphic was that it allowed the use of 4-perforations of film with widescreen
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01:15 | dmj_nova | super35 uses only 3 perforations
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01:15 | dmj_nova | so less area for absorbing light and fewer grains of resolution
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01:16 | Bertl | yes, I know the technical background, but it was a hack back then
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01:16 | dmj_nova | yeah, but the fundamentals still work the same
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01:16 | dmj_nova | so same advantages
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01:16 | dmj_nova | same disadvantages
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01:17 | dmj_nova | same aesthetic characteristics
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01:17 | dmj_nova | filmmakers tend to choose certain formats to get a certain look
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01:19 | dmj_nova | When SNL parodied Wes Anderson, they used anamorphic lenses with 2.39 ratio (and a 4x3 sensor camera) to mimic the look (plus lighting, set design, framing, etc)
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01:20 | dmj_nova | BSG used digital because handholding 35mm film cameras wasn't practical and they didn't want the 16mm look.
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01:24 | Bertl | film makers are weird ... I like it! :)
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01:34 | dmj_nova | film makers are indeed weird
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01:34 | dmj_nova | kinda have to be to actually get anything made
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01:34 | dmj_nova | I shot half a webseries by convincing other people to check out cameras for me.
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05:56 | Bertl | morning se6astian!
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05:57 | se6astian | morning!
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05:57 | se6astian | still up? :)
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05:57 | Bertl | yup
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05:58 | se6astian | very fleißig :)
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05:59 | Bertl | of course, I'm almost done fixing the last reader issues
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06:00 | se6astian | what reader issues did you encounter?
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06:02 | Bertl | a stupid bug which kept me looking for problems on the wrong end ...
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06:03 | Bertl | but I guess I fixed it, will do a final test now
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06:03 | se6astian | gat
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06:03 | se6astian | great
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06:03 | se6astian | my "e" needs to wake up again :)
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06:07 | Bertl | make some coffee for the 'e' :)
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06:15 | Bertl | yep, everything works now as expected ...
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06:16 | se6astian | hurray
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06:16 | se6astian | I will celebrate with some tea :)
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06:17 | Bertl | make that :)
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06:23 | se6astian | I just got a reply from quickparts who I contacted to get help selecting a plastic
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06:27 | se6astian | fo the lens mount parts
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06:27 | se6astian | *for
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06:56 | dmj_nova | ah, what did quickparts say
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06:59 | se6astian | that Accura Xtreme with accuracy of 0.1mm might be a good fit but since UV light makes it brittle over time and also its a resin so it might not be robust enough
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06:59 | se6astian | other options for SLS process have an accuracy of > 0.3mm so are not an option for us
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06:59 | se6astian | so we will go with CNC cutting rather than 3d printing
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07:26 | dmj_nova | se6astian: yeah, that makes sense
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07:26 | dmj_nova | main challenge then is designing parts that will be cnc cuttable
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07:52 | se6astian | yes, but thats not such big issue currently
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07:54 | se6astian | I created a new 3d concept how we could attach modules together: http://3dfile.io/L23m8M
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07:56 | se6astian | team meeting in 3 hours from now btw
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08:00 | se6astian | so if you have a sleeping deficit now might be the perfect time to solve that ;)
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08:00 | dmj_nova | 3 hours, not 2?
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08:06 | dmj_nova | oh, you're right, 3 hours
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08:07 | dmj_nova | google fail
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08:12 | se6astian | :)
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08:44 | Bertl | off for a nap .. bbl
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08:56 | se6astian | hello there stranger :)
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09:28 | Sasha_C | Greetings Sebastian, does the general assembly begin in half an hour?
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09:30 | se6astian | nope :)
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09:30 | se6astian | the team meeting starts in 90 minutes
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09:30 | Sasha_C | 1 hour & 30 minutes then?
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09:30 | se6astian | and the assembly in 210 minutes
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09:31 | Sasha_C | I.C. Like dmj_nova said, another google fail
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09:31 | se6astian | did I calculate a wrong time for your timezone? ;)
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09:31 | se6astian | I specifically sent a mail with the australian converted local time
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09:32 | Sasha_C | The email said 10pm AEST, but we're now operating on daylight savings time, with clocks being moved 1 hour forward (10pm becomes 11pm)
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09:33 | Sasha_C | Perhaps google didn't factor that in?
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09:34 | Sasha_C | Anyway, I can't stay long. Gotta get back to the kitchen and keep an eye on the chicken I'm roasting for dinner
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09:40 | se6astian | I see, to the kitchen then ;)
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09:40 | se6astian | I should grab some lunch before we start as well
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10:49 | Sasha_C | 11 minutes until the general assembly begins?
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10:52 | se6astian | no, the team meeting
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10:52 | se6astian | the general assembly begins in 2 hours and 8 minutes
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10:52 | Sasha_C | Thanks for the clarification
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18:41 | Bertl | back now ...
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18:45 | se6astian | hello!
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