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2013/11/11

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23:08
Wescotte
Hello
23:16
troy_s_
dmj_nova: Not better. Mandatory.
23:16
troy_s_
dmj_nova: The aesthetic of anamorphic is predicated on a vertically moving 35mm (24mm wide) gate at 4:3
23:17
troy_s_
dmj_nova: If one tries to do anamorphic on a 16x9 sensor that is 24mm wide, you end up having to pillar bar the landing gate region in order to correctly unsquish it.
23:18
troy_s_
dmj_nova: In doing so, you are effectively diminishing the sensor size significantly, and significantly degrading the anamorphic depth of field aesthetic.
23:51
dmj_nova
troy_s_: yes. I said "better" in that you *could* shoot anamorphic with a 16x9 sensor, but it would be like trying to use an APS-C sensor instead of full frame
00:54
troy_s_
dmj_nova: Yes. Wouldn't make sense. Would give an unstretched DoF roughly that of standard Super35.
00:54
troy_s_
Strange.
01:44
Bertl
back now ..
01:45
Sasha_C
welcome back Bertl :)
01:49
Bertl
any reason why anamorphic would be of any interest in digital photography/cinema?
02:09
dmj_nova
Bertl: It gives a different look than spherical lenses
02:10
dmj_nova
It also gives some additional vertical resolution/uses more of a 4x3 sensor when you're shooting for widescreen
02:10
Bertl
well, of course, but why would you want that and if you want it, why not do it as part of the post processing?
02:11
dmj_nova
Bertl: you can't get that different look in post (at least not without shooting deep focus and reconstructing the scene in 3D
02:12
Bertl
hmm, so folks 'use' it because of the distortions not despite of nowadays?
02:12
dmj_nova
Plus, there are a lot of quality anamorphic lenses out there
02:13
dmj_nova
yeah, hell JJ Abrams whole shtick relies on anamorphic (for better or worse)
02:14
Bertl
interesting
02:14
dmj_nova
The original reason for anamorphic was that it allowed the use of 4-perforations of film with widescreen
02:15
dmj_nova
super35 uses only 3 perforations
02:15
dmj_nova
so less area for absorbing light and fewer grains of resolution
02:16
Bertl
yes, I know the technical background, but it was a hack back then
02:16
dmj_nova
yeah, but the fundamentals still work the same
02:16
dmj_nova
so same advantages
02:16
dmj_nova
same disadvantages
02:17
dmj_nova
same aesthetic characteristics
02:17
dmj_nova
filmmakers tend to choose certain formats to get a certain look
02:19
dmj_nova
When SNL parodied Wes Anderson, they used anamorphic lenses with 2.39 ratio (and a 4x3 sensor camera) to mimic the look (plus lighting, set design, framing, etc)
02:20
dmj_nova
BSG used digital because handholding 35mm film cameras wasn't practical and they didn't want the 16mm look.
02:24
Bertl
film makers are weird ... I like it! :)
02:34
dmj_nova
film makers are indeed weird
02:34
dmj_nova
kinda have to be to actually get anything made
02:34
dmj_nova
I shot half a webseries by convincing other people to check out cameras for me.
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06:56
Bertl
morning se6astian!
06:57
se6astian
morning!
06:57
se6astian
still up? :)
06:57
Bertl
yup
06:58
se6astian
very fleißig :)
06:59
Bertl
of course, I'm almost done fixing the last reader issues
07:00
se6astian
what reader issues did you encounter?
07:02
Bertl
a stupid bug which kept me looking for problems on the wrong end ...
07:03
Bertl
but I guess I fixed it, will do a final test now
07:03
se6astian
gat
07:03
se6astian
great
07:03
se6astian
my "e" needs to wake up again :)
07:07
Bertl
make some coffee for the 'e' :)
07:15
Bertl
yep, everything works now as expected ...
07:16
se6astian
hurray
07:16
se6astian
I will celebrate with some tea :)
07:17
Bertl
make that :)
07:23
se6astian
I just got a reply from quickparts who I contacted to get help selecting a plastic
07:27
se6astian
fo the lens mount parts
07:27
se6astian
*for
07:56
dmj_nova
ah, what did quickparts say
07:59
se6astian
that Accura Xtreme with accuracy of 0.1mm might be a good fit but since UV light makes it brittle over time and also its a resin so it might not be robust enough
07:59
se6astian
other options for SLS process have an accuracy of > 0.3mm so are not an option for us
07:59
se6astian
so we will go with CNC cutting rather than 3d printing
08:26
dmj_nova
se6astian: yeah, that makes sense
08:26
dmj_nova
main challenge then is designing parts that will be cnc cuttable
08:52
se6astian
yes, but thats not such big issue currently
08:54
se6astian
I created a new 3d concept how we could attach modules together: http://3dfile.io/L23m8M
08:56
se6astian
team meeting in 3 hours from now btw
09:00
se6astian
so if you have a sleeping deficit now might be the perfect time to solve that ;)
09:00
dmj_nova
3 hours, not 2?
09:06
dmj_nova
oh, you're right, 3 hours
09:07
dmj_nova
google fail
09:12
se6astian
:)
09:44
Bertl
off for a nap .. bbl
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se6astian
hello there stranger :)
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10:28
Sasha_C
Greetings Sebastian, does the general assembly begin in half an hour?
10:30
se6astian
nope :)
10:30
se6astian
the team meeting starts in 90 minutes
10:30
Sasha_C
1 hour & 30 minutes then?
10:30
se6astian
and the assembly in 210 minutes
10:31
Sasha_C
I.C. Like dmj_nova said, another google fail
10:31
se6astian
did I calculate a wrong time for your timezone? ;)
10:31
se6astian
I specifically sent a mail with the australian converted local time
10:32
Sasha_C
The email said 10pm AEST, but we're now operating on daylight savings time, with clocks being moved 1 hour forward (10pm becomes 11pm)
10:33
Sasha_C
Perhaps google didn't factor that in?
10:34
Sasha_C
Anyway, I can't stay long. Gotta get back to the kitchen and keep an eye on the chicken I'm roasting for dinner
10:40
se6astian
I see, to the kitchen then ;)
10:40
se6astian
I should grab some lunch before we start as well
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Sasha_C
11 minutes until the general assembly begins?
11:52
se6astian
no, the team meeting
11:52
se6astian
the general assembly begins in 2 hours and 8 minutes
11:52
Sasha_C
Thanks for the clarification
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19:41
Bertl
back now ...
19:45
se6astian
hello!
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