23:06 | dmj_nova1 | it definitely has the boot.bin from your site
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23:06 | Bertl | is there a BOOT.BIN and a boot.bin?
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23:06 | dmj_nova1 | I just pasted it there again
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23:06 | dmj_nova1 | nope
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23:07 | dmj_nova1 | there was
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23:08 | dmj_nova1 | a BOOT.BIN but it got written over by the boot.bin
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23:08 | dmj_nova1 | days ago
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23:08 | Bertl | okay, what does (on the uboot prompt) 'printenv modeboot' give?
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23:10 | dmj_nova1 | modeboot= run sdboot
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23:11 | Bertl | that looks good, and 'printenv bootcmd' ?
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23:12 | dmj_nova1 | bootcmd=run modeboot
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23:12 | Bertl | that is wrong, hmm
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23:13 | Bertl | okay, when uboot first starts, what date(s) does it show?
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23:16 | dmj_nova1 | Jun 23013
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23:17 | Bertl | okay, that looks good, check does 'printenv tftpboot' give you anything?
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23:18 | Bertl | (assuming that this is Jun 23 2013 - 19:36:00 :)
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23:19 | dmj_nova1 | tftpboot=echo Scripted Boot via TFTP...;fpga info 0;echo Requesting Boot Script via TFTP...;bootp 0xF00000;echo Executing Boot Script...;source 0xF00000
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23:19 | Bertl | that's fine, so it seems that just your modeboot wasn't updated
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23:24 | dmj_nova1 | how do I update the modeboot?
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23:26 | Bertl | yeah, checking ... the problem is, the digilent u-boot (the one we are using because it has way better network support) doesn't have the saveenv command
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23:43 | Bertl | try 'env default -f'
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23:45 | Bertl | btw, I updated the boot.bin just now so that it has the verbose/long help enabled
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23:50 | Bertl | does that work?
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23:51 | dmj_nova1 | no
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23:51 | Bertl | hmm, thought so, we probably need the saveenv active
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23:52 | Bertl | give me a second to check if I can make it work
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00:04 | Bertl | dmj_nova1: okay, grab the boot.bin again, I added the saveenv stuff
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00:04 | Bertl | then interrupt the autoboot and do
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00:04 | Bertl | env default -f
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00:04 | Bertl | saveenv
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00:05 | Bertl | reset
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00:10 | dmj_nova1 | didn't change anything
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00:20 | Bertl | strange, worked here (with the new boot.bin)
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00:21 | Bertl | do you have the transcript?
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00:21 | Bertl | (i.e. can you copy/paste it somewhere?)
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00:23 | dmj_nova1 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5863240
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00:26 | dmj_nova1 | Bertl: so it seems to be loading different addresses
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00:26 | dmj_nova1 | not sure if that's significant
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00:26 | dmj_nova1 | 0x0 in my case and 0xf00000 in yours
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00:28 | Bertl | ah, you are interrupting the autoboot
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00:28 | Bertl | just let it count down to zero
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00:29 | Bertl | (it's all automated :)
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00:36 | dmj_nova1 | hmm...getting further but now I get some file not founds
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00:36 | dmj_nova1 | So in the tftp directory...
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00:37 | Bertl | did you create the symbolic links?
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00:38 | Bertl | for example (in the ZED directory)
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00:38 | dmj_nova1 | there should be a folder called 'ZED' with 'u-boot', 'u-boot.bin', 'u-boot.scr', and 'uboot.script' inside, yes?
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00:38 | Bertl | ln -s ZedBoard_OOB_Design/ramdisk8M.image.gz ramdisk.image.gz
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00:38 | Bertl | ln -s ZedBoard_OOB_Design/zImage zImage
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00:39 | Bertl | ln -s ZedBoard_OOB_Design/system.bin system.bin
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00:39 | Bertl | ln -s ZedBoard_OOB_Design/devicetree_ramdisk.dtb devicetree_ramdisk.dtb
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00:39 | Bertl | this is to simplify exchaning certain components later
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00:40 | Bertl | e.g. I have a BERTL folder, which has my files, and I just change the symlink of the system.bin for example
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00:44 | dmj_nova1 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5863290
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00:44 | Bertl | \o/
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00:45 | Bertl | you probably want to adjust the static IP and/or use DHCP for that in the linux runlevel scripts
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00:45 | Bertl | but that is something you probably can do on your own, yes?
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00:46 | dmj_nova1 | should be able to
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00:46 | dmj_nova1 | thanks for your help getting it booted
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00:46 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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00:47 | Bertl | please add the env reset to the wiki
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00:47 | Bertl | i.e. the env default -f, saveenv part
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08:10 | s3bastian | morning!
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08:15 | dmj_nova | morning!
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11:50 | Fergus | equals SimonL
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11:50 | FergusL | hi here
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11:50 | FergusL | nice to see that this channel has been put to use !
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12:20 | s3bastian | indeed
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12:31 | s3bastian | it was a long time ago since I last used IRC regularly
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12:31 | s3bastian | in the good old days of collaborative game development ;)
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12:31 | s3bastian | must be almost 10 years ago now... crazy how time flies
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12:31 | s3bastian | so Bertl got us to rediscover the beauties of IRC
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12:34 | Bertl | morning everyone!
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12:35 | Bertl | hello FergusL!
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12:35 | FergusL | haha; great !
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12:36 | FergusL | are you on the forums Bertl ? if so, what name ? (just to match nicknames together)
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12:39 | Bertl | my name is Herbert, but usually folks call me Bertl :)
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12:39 | s3bastian | Bertl joined just recently - no forum account as far as I know
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12:40 | Bertl | didn't even know there was a forum ...
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12:44 | s3bastian | Bertl, I have to leave in 10 minutes, but before I do I have some questions after starting to get to know your SFE PCB 0.7
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12:45 | s3bastian | whats the difference between the layers: top and topsignal ?
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12:45 | Bertl | 4-layer top, top-signal, bottom-signal, and bottom
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12:46 | Bertl | top has twice as much copper per square inch as top-signal
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12:48 | s3bastian | I see
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12:54 | Bertl | FergusL: so, what are you working on?
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12:56 | s3bastian | Bertl, another question, in my expresspcb layout I grouped LVDS pairs together so they can "couple" to each other, in your design space is rather evenly distributed between pairs and the paired lines, is the coupling for such short lines not that relevant anyway?
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12:57 | s3bastian | actually I now see that you couple them on top of each other
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12:57 | s3bastian | genius!
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12:57 | Bertl | hehe :)
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12:57 | Bertl | that is called broad-side matching
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12:58 | s3bastian | yes I remember you explained the difference so I get to actually see it!
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12:58 | s3bastian | nice
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12:59 | Bertl | there are a few other tricks/hacks to make it work with just 4 layers
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13:02 | Bertl | there are some ground and power planes on the signal layers for shielding/power distribution (you normally avoid that mess if you have more layers available)
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13:04 | s3bastian | I see, OK gota leave for an appointment
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13:04 | s3bastian | see you
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13:06 | Bertl | cya
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13:09 | FergusL | Bertl: I'm not working on anything specific regarding Axiom
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13:10 | FergusL | I do some electronics, nothing like multiple layers pcbs but I can figure out layouts and understand conversations about it :)
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13:12 | Bertl | well, if you want to take a look, the eagle files are here: http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/qad-center-v0.7.sch and http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/qad-center-v0.7.brd
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13:12 | Bertl | (note: still work in progress)
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13:13 | FergusL | thanks !
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13:15 | Bertl | you're welcome! feedback is always appreciated!
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17:13 | FergusL | Bertl: what version of Eagle should I use to open these ?
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17:23 | Bertl | FergusL: 6.4 should be fine, I'm using 6.4.4
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17:23 | FergusL | File > Open > Schematic or Board, pointing to the files, doesn't seem to work, it says "invalid data". let me dig into this, I mist confess I never used Eagle
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17:27 | Bertl | s3bastian: ping?
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17:44 | s3bastian | I am here
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17:44 | s3bastian | now :)
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17:44 | Bertl | perfect! so what do you think of the adapter layout/design so far?
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17:47 | s3bastian | looks very good and tidy!
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17:48 | Bertl | FergusL: hmm, that's basically what I (and probably s3bastian) do ...
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17:48 | Bertl | could you paste me the first and the last few lines of the files you downloaded?
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17:48 | Bertl | (or do an md5/sha sum)
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17:49 | FergusL | let's go for an md5, can you paste yours ?
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17:49 | Bertl | sure, sec
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17:50 | FergusL | I'm suspecting wrong copying or dl, though I grabbed it with wget
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17:51 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/md5.info
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17:51 | Bertl | wget should be fine
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17:51 | Bertl | s3bastian: you are opening the files with eagle, yes? what version do you use?
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17:52 | Bertl | FergusL: note that between 5.x and 6.x they changed the fileformat, 6.x uses xml (5.x was some proprietary binary thingy)
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17:53 | FergusL | haaa then it should be this, I have version 5 something
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17:53 | Bertl | just grab the 6.x from cadsoft (linux, mac, win)
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17:53 | FergusL | 'k
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17:54 | Bertl | you can go for the 6.4.4 beta version if you like, it is quite stable
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18:01 | FergusL | Bertl: nice, much better now :)
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18:01 | Bertl | hehe
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18:02 | FergusL | absolutely beautiful haha
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18:07 | s3bastian | I use eagle 6.4.0
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18:07 | s3bastian | worked flawlessly
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18:08 | FergusL | yes, perfect with 6.4.0
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18:20 | FergusL | where are all the LAxx signals going ? I take it they are lvds out from the sensor. maybe directly to the zed ?
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18:20 | Bertl | yes, they go from the CMV12k to the FMC connector at the bottom
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18:20 | Bertl | which direcly plugs into the zedboard
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18:22 | FergusL | ha I see
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18:22 | FergusL | lots of pins ! hehe
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18:23 | Bertl | yeah, I added a shield plane on the Bottom-Signal layer to shield that one
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18:23 | Bertl | (although there are not many signals in the vicinity with this layout)
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18:25 | FergusL | that's actual electrical shielding, like, to avoid noise ?
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18:27 | Bertl | yes, we are transmitting LVDS signals at 300MHz (not so much but enough)
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18:27 | Bertl | so we want to make sure that we do not mess up our data
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18:29 | FergusL | indeed yes !
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18:33 | FergusL | is this channel considered public ? from the website it is
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18:33 | Bertl | yes, I'd say so, at least I consider it public :)
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18:33 | FergusL | but are those schematics public too then ?
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18:34 | Bertl | yes, they are
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18:39 | s3bastian | They are on our GitHub account already
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18:51 | FergusL | oh, okay
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21:29 | FergusL | why is the output of the actual Axiom still noted as "tbd" on the website ?
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21:32 | Bertl | output means? url?
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22:14 | s3bastian | back, I am also interested in the "tbd"
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22:14 | s3bastian | did you talk about it while I was away?
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22:15 | Bertl | nope
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22:15 | s3bastian | hmm ok :)
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22:15 | s3bastian | then I ll head to bed now
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22:15 | s3bastian | see you tomorrow!
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22:16 | Bertl | cya! sleep well!
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22:16 | s3bastian | ah wait I just found it
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22:16 | Bertl | okay?
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22:16 | s3bastian | http://axiom.apertus.org/index.php?site=alpha
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22:16 | s3bastian | table at the end of the page
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22:17 | s3bastian | and its pefectly right
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22:17 | s3bastian | we don't know yet ;)
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22:17 | Bertl | ah, okay, yeah
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22:20 | s3bastian | ok then
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22:20 | s3bastian | night night
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