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14:11 | Bertl | morning folks!
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17:31 | Bertl | IRC meeting in 30 minutes!
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17:55 | g3gg0-mobile | Hi
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17:56 | Bertl | hey
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17:56 | g3gg0-mobile | I am on the road right now.
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17:58 | ArunM | hello
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17:58 | g3gg0-mobile | So i can not respond for safety reasons :)
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17:58 | Bertl | no problem :)
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17:58 | nmdis199- | Hello everyone!
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17:59 | rahul_ | Hello
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18:00 | Bertl | evening everyone!
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18:00 | ymc98 | Hello
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18:00 | Bertl | se6astian|away is ... well away :)
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18:00 | Bertl | so please /msg me when you have something to report
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18:01 | Bertl | note that the first evaluation is upcoming, so it is a good time to give an overview what has been done and why not :)
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18:01 | nmdis199- | do we need to give report about everything we have done till the date?
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18:02 | nmdis199- | or just previous week?
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18:02 | Bertl | no, that would probably take a long time, it is better to check what you promised in your application and compare it in a short monoloque to what has really happened
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18:02 | nmdis199- | okay, thanks!
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18:03 | Bertl | feel free to mention where changes were imposed on you and/or where you decided to 'adjust' the original plans
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18:05 | Bertl | from my side there isn't much to report, I was unexpectedly busy with life end of last week and the weekend
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18:05 | Bertl | so who wants to start?
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18:06 | supragya | Reports are to be submitted? Where?
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18:07 | supragya | or this-> [compare it in a short monoloque] where to put it up?
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18:07 | BAndiT1983 | here
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18:07 | BAndiT1983 | another step is to answer gsoc questions by google
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18:07 | supragya | Okay.
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18:07 | ArunM | can i start?
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18:07 | Bertl | sure, go ahead
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18:08 | ArunM | Hello everyone
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18:08 | ArunM | Okay the basic model of the sensor is done
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18:08 | ArunM | Spi interface , lvds interface , buffer to hold and shift row data, sequencer is done
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18:08 | ArunM | And from now on new features are constantly added to the sequencer itself
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18:08 | ArunM | very module is finalized and uploaded leaving just the last
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18:09 | ArunM | Every*
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18:09 | ArunM | It needs some cleaning and i have to give proper names to variables, that will not take much time as the rest is complete, probably before tomorrow afternoon
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18:09 | ArunM | More recent updates---
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18:09 | Bertl | sounds good, did you test the code?
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18:09 | ArunM | Added mask on non readable register
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18:09 | ArunM | , so that they r not accidently changed
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18:10 | ArunM | yes, tested
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18:10 | Bertl | s/non readable/non writeable/
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18:10 | ArunM | i thought dnc registers are writable but should not be changed
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18:11 | ArunM | okay writable/non-writable mask will be added too :-)
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18:11 | ArunM | Added artificial delays such as stabilisation time during start and after spi programming, FOT etc
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18:11 | ArunM | While delays are yet to be tuned
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18:11 | ArunM | This month main focus will be on the pattern generator, after discussing that with BertL i’ll upload detailed architecture of the generator and start coding it.
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18:11 | ArunM | Code is here https://github.com/arun13e/Image_Sensor_Emulation
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18:12 | ArunM | every module has its test bench, except serializer
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18:12 | ArunM | DONE
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18:13 | Bertl | great! sounds good and we should find the time to go through that soon
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18:13 | Bertl | thanks for the report, as final words, how does that compare to the original timeline?
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18:14 | ArunM | sorry let me check with the timeline
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18:15 | ArunM | AHEAD
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18:15 | ArunM | :-)
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18:15 | Bertl | that's always good to hear :)
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18:16 | Bertl | okay rahul_ you are up next ... the channel is yours!
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18:16 | rahul_ | hello everyone, good evening!
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18:17 | rahul_ | I majorly completed all the required modules for the project.
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18:17 | rahul_ | i.e
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18:17 | rahul_ | (1) The line buffer Module
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18:17 | rahul_ | (2) Sobel convolution filter
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18:18 | rahul_ | currently running timing simulations to ensure the streaming of the pixel data in the pipeline.
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18:18 | rahul_ | after that I would be able to claim the constant delay in the pipeline because of my overlay module.
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18:19 | rahul_ | the code as well as the presentation of the vhdl architecture can be found in the following github link (https://github.com/rrvyas/GSOC-Realtime-Focus-Peaking)
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18:20 | rahul_ | This leaves me enough time to implement subtle changes to be suggested in the future as well as space for FPGA implementation.
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18:21 | rahul_ | I am ahead of the schedule.
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18:21 | rahul_ | thats all from my side.
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18:21 | Bertl | okay, any specific problems you encountered or everything a smooth ride?
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18:22 | rahul_ | I had lots of issues in implementing the line buffer but I had good support from my university professor as well as the researchers who work with image processing here in TU Delft.
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18:23 | rahul_ | any suggestions or comments on the architecture, algorithm as well as the coding style/technique is welcomed.
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18:24 | Bertl | okay, thanks for the report!
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18:24 | Bertl | nmdis199-: the channel is yours now!
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18:24 | nmdis199- | Good evening everyone :)
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18:25 | nmdis199- | Here's description of my work and what I achieved / did not
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18:25 | nmdis199- | So, before the coding period began Bertl had asked me to make a “tool” for histogram from the scratch which I was able to do till May 15, after that a week went by when I was occupied with exams and wasn’t very much productive.
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18:25 | nmdis199- | I started reading and understanding about architecture of microzed and trying to understand cache optimization during which I also worked on figuring out about “triggering image capture”.So, till 25th of May (which was my exam week plus the works I mentioned I did above) this was my work.
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18:26 | nmdis199- | You can find details here
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18:26 | nmdis199- | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vCjhKgLnSdHelyPBqxCVb9fpOz9EoaNPyYiR_lG_l8g/edit?usp=sharing
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18:26 | nmdis199- | A few days were taken by the problem which I faced with file transfering via ssh which was mostly due to port problem, but fortunately I was able to figure it out.
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18:26 | nmdis199- | I originally had to improve cmv_hist3 and to introducing image crop, before this I had to know how the codes are working on beta for improvement.
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18:27 | nmdis199- | Last week, I along with Bertl were testing versions of code on beta, and figuring out what’s the result for various changes in the code.
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18:27 | nmdis199- | There were 7 versions of the code, which you can find in .../opt/ITI folder in beta , also two tests are uploaded on my github repo
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18:27 | nmdis199- | https://github.com/nmdis1999/Test-Files
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18:27 | nmdis199- | https://github.com/nmdis1999/ReadFrameBuffer
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18:27 | nmdis199- | After working on tests cases, I wrote an overview of the things that I observed which can improve the execution time of the codes on beta
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18:27 | nmdis199- | here -> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Za5jm8m_NJNbg_K4-mtbtJjfW7qSxrKeIxp_8Ron2Aw/edit?usp=sharing
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18:28 | nmdis199- | Overall, previous month I learned a LOT, thanks to Bertl, he was patience enough to guide me :)
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18:28 | nmdis199- | I wanted to work on the crop tool (note I already implemented on in the histogram tool) so, that was left. Other than that, I am now able to understand how to work on beta and result of our codes on different versions on beta.
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18:28 | nmdis199- | Now, I have to work on waveform tool.
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18:28 | nmdis199- | Thanks everyone, that’s all :)
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18:29 | Bertl | great!
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18:29 | Bertl | compared to the original timeline, how is your work going?
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18:30 | nmdis199- | except of "crop" tool in cmv_hist3 I did others, including the "histogram" tool which was an addition. So, pretty much I am going with timeline
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18:31 | TofuLynx | I couldn't attend the meeting. when I get home, by 7pm, I will report my progress
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18:31 | TofuLynx | 7pm I mean, under 30 minutes
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18:31 | Bertl | nmdis199-: glad to hear! thanks!
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18:31 | Bertl | TofuLynx: okay, we will be around and listen to your report
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18:31 | nmdis199- | I should be thanking you Bertl, you helped me a lot :)
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18:31 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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18:32 | ymc98 | Can I start?
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18:32 | Bertl | sure, go ahead, channel is yours now
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18:32 | ymc98 | Bertl : In my application, by the first evaluation the design of the packet protocol must be completed but as you said it is unrealistic. The designs for encoded prng emitter and decoded receiver which counts the number of incorrectly transmitted bits are done.
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18:33 | ymc98 | Link to progress report. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oV-F7XNQPQVUzSAbNNtzppTzIOryoggFRxhOTabgTnY/edit?usp=sharing
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18:33 | ymc98 | transmitter github repo link. https://github.com/Yayi98/enc_prng_transmitter
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18:34 | ymc98 | receiver github repo link. https://github.com/Yayi98/dec_prng_receiver
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18:35 | ymc98 | I have to test the receiver.That is all.
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18:35 | Bertl | okay thanks for the report! appreciated!
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18:35 | supragya | Should I?
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18:36 | Bertl | yes, please go ahead!
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18:36 | supragya | first, this week's progress... there were two things that I had done:
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18:37 | supragya | 1. understanding if there is a general standard LUT specification
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18:37 | supragya | for this I am looking at .cube and .look etc to figure this out
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18:37 | supragya | 2. I had completed the task https://lab.apertus.org/T1018 finally
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18:38 | supragya | after so many failed linux installations... so that's always a good thing
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18:38 | supragya | regarding GSoC,
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18:38 | supragya | here is what I had written for eval 1:
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18:38 | supragya | Analysis phase ends: report findings and suitability of each container format. Report if custom containers are feasible.
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18:38 | TofuLynx | that video was great! I liked the video editing!
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18:38 | supragya | eval 2 says: ​Provide a functional and working system that can encode/decode the decided video container format.
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18:39 | supragya | so I am somewhere in between... mlv are encoded
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18:39 | supragya | but CDNG are still to come.
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18:39 | supragya | In the project, we have taken a short aside for analysing LUTs
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18:40 | supragya | we are definitely over eval 1 and would touch eval 2 work soon
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18:40 | supragya | that's all
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18:40 | supragya | @Tofulynx, thanks
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18:40 | Bertl | great! appreciated!
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18:40 | supragya | for the link: this was the vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpq_ItPHFx8 :)
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18:40 | TofuLynx | who is the next?
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18:40 | g3gg0-mobile | Same feedback from my side, like the editing.
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18:41 | Bertl | TofuLynx: you are :)
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18:41 | supragya | that was long done... g3gg0-mobile
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18:41 | TofuLynx | ok :) 10 minutes
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18:41 | supragya | but I toasted out my computer becuase it was not able to record on nvidia optimus
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18:41 | TofuLynx | wow xD
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18:41 | supragya | had to reinstall everything.. and lost 300Gigs of data (not important though) ouch
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18:42 | Bertl | maybe one of the mentors wants to comment how this years experience is/was so far?
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18:42 | Bertl | (in the meantime)
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18:42 | Bertl | BAndiT1983: g3gg0-mobile: alexML: ?
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18:43 | BAndiT1983 | much better than last year, many active and eager to learn people around
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18:44 | BAndiT1983 | hope that some will stay also after gsoc, as an open source project is a great way to extend the knowledge and get more experience
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18:45 | g3gg0-mobile | First time for me, despite the time zone difference and mail/chat only, i can see good progress
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18:46 | g3gg0-mobile | Full ack @ BAndiT1983 regarding open source
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18:47 | g3gg0-mobile | Students will need this experience later, and employers love to see it
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18:48 | Bertl | yeah, I'm quite happy we introduced the challenge tasks this year, it really simplified student selection and improved on the overall quality of applications
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18:48 | BAndiT1983 | 20 years old and 15 years experience in the industry ;)
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18:49 | Bertl | nowadays it's 20 years old and 30 year experience :)
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18:49 | BAndiT1983 | that's what HR await
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18:49 | TofuLynx | I didn't understand
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18:50 | TofuLynx | how is that possible?
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18:50 | g3gg0-mobile | I am not in HR ;) the best ticket for an interview is having contributed to open source projects
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18:51 | TofuLynx_ | Hey
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18:51 | TofuLynx_ | Can I report my progress now?
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18:51 | Bertl | sure, that's what we have been waiting for *G*
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18:52 | TofuLynx_ | xD
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18:52 | TofuLynx_ | Ok, The last week, my task was to finish implementing SHOODAK demosaicing
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18:52 | TofuLynx_ | It was a troubled experience, with a lot of mistakes from my part in the code xD
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18:53 | TofuLynx_ | Initially, it was very fuzzy due to those mistakes
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18:53 | TofuLynx_ | However, I fixed the mistakes and the image got better
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18:53 | TofuLynx_ | but, as expected from this particular algorithm, the edges have a lot of artifacts
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18:54 | TofuLynx_ | I proposed to the creator of the algorithm to implement a sort of edge sensing algorithm
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18:54 | TofuLynx_ | I implemented the edge sensing algorithm and it significantly attenuated the edge artifacts and the result got a lot better
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18:55 | TofuLynx_ | Overall, the result looks more sharp, but at the same time, it's fuzzy
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18:55 | TofuLynx_ | so it depends on the preference
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18:55 | TofuLynx_ | I suspect that it will give a sort of grainy look to movies and moving images
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18:56 | BAndiT1983 | hope that we will have moving pictures till gsoc ends
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18:56 | BAndiT1983 | so we can test it out
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18:56 | TofuLynx_ | Only time will tell, when we get moving pictures
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18:56 | TofuLynx_ | yeah, hope so
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18:56 | BAndiT1983 | that's not that hard to add, was already implemented, but removed as it was hacky
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18:57 | TofuLynx_ | I commited to implement moving pictures if I finish my proposal sooner than expected
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18:57 | TofuLynx_ | Ok :)
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18:57 | Bertl | so do you like SHOODAK?
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18:57 | TofuLynx_ | Personally, yes, specially on big resolution pictures (more than 4K)
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18:58 | BAndiT1983 | in my opinion: it's hard to tell without motion, but edges seem to be aproblem, GEDI is much clearer
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18:58 | TofuLynx_ | yeah, much clearer.
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18:58 | BAndiT1983 | maybe we can do a combination of GEDI and SHOODAK
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18:58 | BAndiT1983 | as GEDI already uses some sort of edge detection
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18:59 | TofuLynx_ | BAndiT1983: the combination is pratically done
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18:59 | BAndiT1983 | have seen very minor problems with GEDI
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18:59 | TofuLynx_ | In that regard
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18:59 | BAndiT1983 | if you try the image where Bertl is soldering, there is light edge on the glass, to the left is a bit darker point
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18:59 | TofuLynx_ | yeah
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18:59 | BAndiT1983 | just very small thing, but it could be affecting other areas more
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19:00 | TofuLynx_ | but, if you look at SHOODAK code
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19:00 | TofuLynx_ | there is an if statement
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19:00 | BAndiT1983 | haven't looked yet, will do it this week
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19:00 | TofuLynx_ | if you make it always true, it will always activate the edge part of the code,
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19:00 | TofuLynx_ | and it will be, in my opinion, a better result than GEDI
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19:00 | TofuLynx_ | I can send you screenshots if you wish
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19:02 | BAndiT1983 | yes, please
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19:05 | TofuLynx_ | That's all, Bertl :)
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19:05 | nmdis199- | @BAndiT1983, I definitely agree, I have learned more in last 2 months with the help of mentors than I did on my own, besides I have learned to organize my work in good way. Also, as I already mentioned I indeed admire apertus's way to have regular meeting and the way everyone (including students participating here ) is active.
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19:06 | Bertl | TofuLynx_: thanks!
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19:06 | TofuLynx_ | I second you, nmdis199-
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19:09 | Bertl | @students: glad that you like it here ....
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19:14 | Bertl | okay, so next meeting next monday, same time, same place!
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19:14 | TofuLynx_ | Ok :)
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19:14 | supragya | g3gg0-mobile: anything for me?
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19:14 | nmdis199- | Great ! :)
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19:14 | Bertl | meeting for today (a longer one) is now concluded ... feel free to chat on
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19:16 | TofuLynx_ | BAndiT1983: sent you the comparison
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19:16 | BAndiT1983 | GEDI is still a bit more crisp, or am i wrong?
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19:17 | BAndiT1983 | ah, seen your comment
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19:17 | TofuLynx | I said that :p
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19:18 | BAndiT1983 | what about NEDI? ->
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19:18 | BAndiT1983 | http://graphicon.ru/oldgr/en/publications/text/prog2004lk.pdf
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19:18 | BAndiT1983 | could you take a look if it is similar or the same just with another name
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19:18 | BAndiT1983 | ?
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19:21 | TofuLynx | I can give a look. after all, I need to know what I did xD
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19:22 | BAndiT1983 | i have also to learn about the algorithms, as i have to check where we can gain performance and also if the code has to be adjusted to be maintainable or similar
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19:22 | BAndiT1983 | after all also opencl is on my list, so i can support you
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19:23 | TofuLynx | I already confirmed that what I used is not that. SHOODAK is uncommon because the new pixels are in the center of the 2x2 block, and as such it's different from those which just fill the missing pixels.
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19:23 | TofuLynx | hmm, weren't we using openMP?
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19:25 | BAndiT1983 | so NEDI is different to GEDI?
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19:25 | BAndiT1983 | openmp is just the first step, we target parallel processing through opencl
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19:25 | BAndiT1983 | you can do nice stuff there, like swizzling the bytes
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19:28 | TofuLynx | NEDI os different to GEDI, it's an improvement over GEDI. It uses, for example, bigger neighborhood size
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19:35 | TofuLynx_ | BAndiT1983: You said that the view box is always demosaicing the image, right?
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19:36 | TofuLynx_ | or is it just rendering the same PNG?
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19:36 | TofuLynx_ | image*
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19:36 | TofuLynx_ | not png
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19:46 | BAndiT1983 | what do you mean?
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19:46 | BAndiT1983 | none switches debayering off
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19:47 | TofuLynx_ | Huhm I am asking if the displayed image is the result of a one-time demosaic or is always demosaicing the original image continuously
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19:59 | g3gg0 | Bertl there´?
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19:59 | Bertl | yup, still around!
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19:59 | g3gg0 | cool
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20:00 | g3gg0 | about PLR
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20:00 | g3gg0 | from the datasheet, the sensel's initial value is Vhigh, what is it set to?
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20:00 | Bertl | most likely the pixel voltage supplied to the sensor
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20:01 | g3gg0 | so it is 3V ?
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20:01 | Bertl | (minus whatever the mosfets take)
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20:02 | Bertl | at least that would be my assumption
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20:02 | g3gg0 | okay thanks
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20:02 | Bertl | no problem
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20:33 | BAndiT1983 | TofuLynx: just one time, when you switch it just reloads the image
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20:34 | TofuLynx | ok. we could try to make it always rendering a new image to see what effect SHOODAK brings to moving images
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20:35 | TofuLynx | at least moving images with static background
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20:35 | BAndiT1983 | we need real sequence, otherwise you will have no effect
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20:36 | BAndiT1983 | renderer is always running, hope to pause it also, when no new image is coming
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20:56 | BAndiT1983 | TofuLynx: what's the plan currently? openmp?
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21:00 | TofuLynx | okk. the current plan is to review the code and document it. Next will be openMP :) probably will start working on openMP Wednesday
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21:02 | BAndiT1983 | very good, don't forget to test against release mode, i can tell you how to switch to it, if you have trouble
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21:02 | BAndiT1983 | have some ideas to reduce strain on the cpu and GPU, like rendering the image if it has changed (meant for video sequences later) or when user pans or zooms
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21:05 | BAndiT1983 | do you need further improvements or extensions in the UI?
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21:05 | BAndiT1983 | and have you tested PNG dump?
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21:05 | BAndiT1983 | it'S 8bit, as lodepng cannot output 16bit RGB somehow
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21:06 | TofuLynx | I would suggest zooming to be mouse-based
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21:06 | TofuLynx | and not image center based
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21:07 | TofuLynx | do you understand?
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21:07 | TofuLynx | yeah, I used PNG dump to send you the comparison and samples to Stephan
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21:08 | BAndiT1983 | of course, it was a plan for long time, but haven't got to do it yet
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21:08 | BAndiT1983 | UI has small bug, as the theme turns disabled button black, but it's minor stuff for later
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21:09 | BAndiT1983 | i think we can update wiki with newer screenshots
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21:10 | TofuLynx | good idea :)
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