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| 08:40 | se6astian | good day
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| 08:56 | se6astian | vup is there a way to download the entire https://files.niemo.de/axiom_pdfs/HARDWARE/AXIOM/ archive?
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| 09:40 | apurvanandan[m] | Hi everyone, will we have two meetings this week? On Monday and Tuesday?
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| 09:46 | se6astian | apurvanandan[m]: Monday is the big meeting indeed, what meeting did you schedule for tuesday?
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| 09:47 | apurvanandan[m] | With Bertl, felix and florent
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| 09:49 | se6astian | right, then indeed you have two meetings :)
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| 09:52 | apurvanandan[m] | ^^'
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| 11:08 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 11:08 | Bertl | apurvanandan[m]: at least two meetings ;-)
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| 11:10 | Bertl | aSobhy: you got all the schematics you need?
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| 12:01 | anuejn | se6astian|away: wget -r --no-parent https://files.niemo.de/axiom_pdfs/HARDWARE/AXIOM/
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| 13:17 | Bertl | apurvanandan[m]: you around?
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| 14:03 | apurvanandan[m] | Yes , i have read the material you sent that day ( only the migen codes are left), currently sorting out the openocd thing for xup usb jtag, and after that will go to schematics
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| 14:08 | Bertl | great! we have a decision to make!
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| 14:10 | Bertl | I'm currently populating the USB plugin boards, and I have two MachXO2 available, the LCMXO2-1200 and the LCMXO2-2000
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| 14:11 | Bertl | they are basically pin compatible (the 2000 has more banks but on the same pins) https://www.latticesemi.com/view_document?document_id=43047
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| 14:12 | Bertl | they differ regarding the cells and memory though https://www.latticesemi.com/view_document?document_id=38834
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| 14:14 | Bertl | the question now is: do we want to have both (FT601 and FT602) with the 1200 or the 2000 or do we want one of each, and if so, which one :)
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| 14:17 | aSobhy | yeah a last question for the East MachXO2 should we use the second LVDS ?
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| 14:19 | Bertl | it would definitely make sense to use it and not have it sit there unused :)
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| 14:19 | aSobhy | for example clock sync. or it has another function
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| 14:20 | Bertl | we can decide on what to do with it ... it would be a good start to make a list of connections and protocol each routing fabric potentially has to handle
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| 14:22 | Bertl | note that both routing fabrics have a clock capable input connected to a zynq pin
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| 14:23 | Bertl | BANK13 SE_0 (RFW) and JX1 SE_0 (RFW)
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| 14:24 | Bertl | so it would be an option to use that to provide a synchronous clock (25-100 MHz) to the RFs
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| 14:24 | Bertl | which then can drive a PLL to generate higher phase related clock rates
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| 14:25 | Bertl | as we want bidirectional data transfer, the RFE could use one LVDS in each direction, while the RFW has to allow for direction changes
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| 14:27 | aSobhy | so they can be different protocols on the two sides ?
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| 14:27 | Bertl | at least the lower layer has to be somewhat different
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| 14:28 | Bertl | but it would also be possible to use a bidirectional protocol on both RFE LVDS and just double the bandwidth
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| 14:29 | Bertl | i.e. send half the bits over each LVDS connection
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| 14:29 | Bertl | but I presume that switching direction has more problems than dedicating an LVDS connection to each direction
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| 14:30 | Bertl | in any case, something which needs some more investigation
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| 14:31 | aSobhy | concerning to the packet protocol what kind of data I'll send ?
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| 14:33 | aSobhy | I have a lot of questions about it
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| 14:36 | Bertl | I can imagine ... basically we want to 'transport' data from various other protocols, ideally transparently, like I2C, SPI, JTAG, etc
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| 14:37 | Bertl | we do not know what protocols will be used/active, as this depends on the plugins, shields and otherwise available hardware
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| 14:44 | aSobhy | what in my mind is: the ZYNQ will send the MachXO2 a command to do (for example read from a sensor of address ... with that I2C ) and the MachXO2 will handle that command and return the value again to the ZYNQ
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| 14:46 | apurvanandan[m] | Hey Bertl isn't the 2000 better than 1200?
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| 14:47 | apurvanandan[m] | Is the 2000 costlier than 1200?
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| 14:55 | Bertl | both is true
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| 14:55 | Bertl | the 1200 costs about 6 EUR in quantities and the 2000 about 11 EUR each
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| 15:01 | apurvanandan[m] | Hmm,almost double, and what is the price estimate of USB module as whole?
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| 15:12 | Bertl | we don't have a price yet but about 60 EUR retail I guess
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| 15:13 | Bertl | but we can still decide to 'downgrade' the MachXO2 if we do not need the resources, the question is more for the current test/devel boards
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| 15:13 | Bertl | naturally we can go for the 2000 for those, but then we cannot test with the 1200 at all
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| 15:13 | Bertl | so we do not know if it actually works there
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| 15:14 | Bertl | if we decide for the 1200 for both (FT601 and FT602) then we have a problem if it isn't good/large enough :)
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| 15:14 | Bertl | so my gut tells me to use one of each as the FTDIs are quite similar
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| 15:15 | Bertl | leaves the question which one gets the 'larger' one :)
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| 15:31 | aSobhy | Bertl: Am I wrong ?
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| 15:41 | Bertl | no, for many protocols this will be the way it goes
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| 15:41 | Bertl | the catch is for example with GPIO pins
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| 15:42 | Bertl | (specifically for input pins which are like 'interrupts' to the system)
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| 15:43 | Bertl | polling those all the time might not be a good approach
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| 15:44 | Bertl | SPI and JTAG also shift in as many bits as they shift out, so a generic 'request-response' approach might kill the latency there
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| 15:44 | Bertl | (really depends on the data rate of course)
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| 15:45 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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| 17:18 | apurvanandan[m] | I think 2000 can go with ft601q and 1200 can go with ft602 as once we have a working module with 2000, we can try optimising the same for 1200 (stretch goal). I would choose the best bet when I don't know the limits.
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| 17:26 | Y_G | Hi BAndiT1983 , when I run scripts like zynq
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| 17:27 | Y_G | When I run scripts like the zynq_info.sh in axiom_beta build,I get errors like these : "/sys/devices/soc0/amba/.adc/iio/in_temp0_offset': No such file or directory"
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| 17:28 | Y_G | why that happens ?
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| 17:38 | vup | Y_G: are you running them on actual hardware or in qemu?
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| 17:42 | Bertl_oO | also what does 'bash -x zynq_info.sh' give as output (use a pastebin service or similar)
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| 17:43 | Bertl_oO | apurvanandan[m]: good argument, but wouldn't the FT602Q be more likely to need more resources because of color conversion or similar?
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| 17:49 | vup | but even in qemu it should work
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| 17:49 | vup | atleast is does for me
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| 17:50 | Bertl_oO | could be that the ADC is not emulated or (more likely) that the path is different
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| 17:50 | Bertl_oO | or that it is simply missing from the device tree
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| 17:53 | vup | i don't know how Y_G runs the image, but if they use https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/axiom-beta-firmware
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| 17:53 | vup | it should work
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| 17:53 | vup | (even in qemu)
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| 17:54 | vup | you don't get any sensible values of course, but its emulated just fine
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| 17:56 | vup | and on real hardware it works aswell (just tested it), so not sure what the problem is...
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| 18:01 | BAndiT1983 | hi Y_G, see the questions already asked here, if you use emulated firmware or not
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| 18:02 | BAndiT1983 | other than that, we could provide remote access to the beta, to be able to try live system, also there was a setup with live hdmi feed, e.g. for daemon testing
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| 18:02 | BAndiT1983 | it worked rather good, i could see my changes applied immediately, e.g. from web UI
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| 18:03 | BAndiT1983 | off for now
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| 18:21 | Y_G | @vup I tried this command after building the image "docker-make.sh build-shell"
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| 18:21 | Y_G | I guess I should be using this "docker-make.sh qemu-shell"?
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| 18:27 | Y_G | @Bertl_oO : this is the output of "bash -x zynq_info.sh" "https://pastebin.com/19pZc7Kd"
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| 18:32 | vup | Yes you need to use qemu-shell
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| 18:35 | vup | build-shell is just a shell in the docker container used to build the actual image
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| 18:40 | Bertl_oO | Y_G: yeah, as you can see, the sysfs entries are missing and that is why the script fails
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| 18:41 | Bertl_oO | it might be a good improvement to the script to test for those entries first and report a meaningful error when they are missing
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| 18:55 | Y_G | Thanks ,I am running the "/usr/axiom/script/axiom-zynq-info.sh" which seems to give the correct output
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| 18:56 | Y_G | Bertl_oO:Yup something like that would be helpful,Will see if I can do something about it
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| 18:56 | vup | great
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| 18:57 | Y_G | Sorry for the trouble :)
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| 18:57 | Y_G | BAndiT1983 : yup That would help
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| 20:22 | Dev_ | Hello BAndiT1983|away : playsliders now appear in UI of OC ,
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| 20:23 | Dev_ | we are using QtAV framework for handling video here. What was the problem u were mentioning for events
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| 20:24 | Dev_ | I guess that's u have removed the code by commenting it
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| 20:25 | Dev_ | --> https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/opencine/blob/dev/Source/OCui/Controls/PlaybackSlider.cpp
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| 22:11 | se6astian | good night
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| 23:19 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 23:46 | BAndiT1983 | Dev_, QtAV is not really used and was only added for first tests, don't know which problem with events you mean
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| 23:47 | BAndiT1983 | also QtAV wouldn't be of much help, as we have to handle special formats, like MLV, which are not supported that well, look at ffmpeg, there was some basic implementation of MLV decoder, but had also several problems
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