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2015/01/11

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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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se6astian
good morning
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aombk
hi
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Bertl
morning folks!
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se6astian
good morning
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se6astian
anyone around who has a pro/prosumer camera at hand currently?
19:30
aombk
se6astian, what qualifies as pro/prosumer camera?
19:35
se6astian
anything more expensive than a DSLR I guess :)
19:35
se6astian
I am interested in the pushbuttons on it
19:36
se6astian
as we are ordering pushbutton samples of all different kinds to understand the specifics
19:36
se6astian
eg. does it make a sound when you press them
19:36
se6astian
on my DSLR they all do
19:36
se6astian
now it would be interesting if they are silent on more pro oriented cameras
19:36
se6astian
is the "click" just a bit more silent
19:37
se6astian
or not "click" at all
19:39
aombk
where will there be buttons? on the remote control? by the way, what was the chosen name after all?
19:41
aombk
i will ask pro camera owners
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se6astian
on the "AXIOM Remote"
19:48
aombk
i dont seem to own any equipment without click buttons
20:00
se6astian
what do you own?
20:03
danieel
i have both click and noclick buttons on a 550D
20:06
aombk
se6astian, mostly sound equipment
20:14
aombk
nobody seems to remember. the truth is i didnt remember too and i had to get my 550d to see what kind of buttons it has
20:27
se6astian
it indeed has silent ones
20:27
se6astian
but those have no tactile feedback when they switch
20:27
se6astian
optimally we want to have both on the AXIOM Remote
20:28
se6astian
silent tactile feedback
20:28
se6astian
but is it possible :)
20:28
se6astian
do even the pro cameras not have it?
20:28
se6astian
or what switches do they use...
20:28
se6astian
thats what I am trying to find out
20:28
Bertl
yes, with servo buttons, preferably hydraulic
20:29
Bertl
but the question is more, is it worth it?
20:29
Bertl
especially given that "modern" touch interfaces add a "click" sound to provide the kind of audible feedback you are looking to avoid :)
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20:35
aombk
those sounds are great especially if there is lag involved
20:36
Bertl
hehe, yeah
20:53
hozer
'modern' touch interfaces are a step backwards. Give me a nice click
20:53
hozer
and a deterministic time from click to actuation
20:54
Bertl
3.725s :)
20:54
hozer
I could live with that with a 1ms standard deviation
20:56
hozer
if the OS has to swap out flash advertisements and check if the neighbor is not running the microwave before it feels like getting back to me it's a lose
21:43
aombk
i clicked every button i could find here
21:43
aombk
and i have to say i hate soft rubber buttons and i am unsure about hard noclick buttons
21:43
aombk
hard click buttons are great though
21:46
aombk
you could also think about the availability/popularity of the buttons and the easiness of replacing faulty ones, if someone wants to do it by himself
21:47
se6astian
in case this got out wrong
21:47
se6astian
I WANT the click buttons
21:47
se6astian
but I want to feel them not hear them :)
21:49
aombk
add "silent" when compiling then :P
21:49
aombk
https://www.e-switch.com/product-catalog/navigation
21:51
se6astian
we are also ordering those
21:52
aombk
i also want this on my axiom control https://www.e-switch.com/product-catalog/keylock/product-lines/ko-series-keylock-switches
21:52
aombk
so i can make it play an ignition start sound when i turn the key
21:53
aombk
it says silent here: http://www.toneparts.com/en/products/pro_lb.asp?classid=1&prv_id=41
21:53
aombk
you are affraid they may not feel ok?
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se6astian
interesting find
21:55
se6astian
but we just ordered from farnell today
21:56
se6astian
ok time for bed
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se6astian
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troy_s
Se6astian is, once again, on the right track. Tactile feedback is a prudent design goal to value on such a device.