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| 10:10 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 11:21 | imback | Hi guys...I'm Back...
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| 11:31 | Bertl | we noticed :)
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| 11:34 | imback | I'm a China...and last week I'm going to Shenzhen...elletronic shopping...amazing... :-)
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| 11:36 | imback | I'm here for my new PCB and new product for I'm Back®...and I thing about us
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| 11:38 | imback | microprocessors, diods, resistors...for purchase a kilograms... :-)
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| 11:44 | se6astian | I will take 200g of the green parts over there please :)
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| 11:44 | se6astian | welcome back!
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| 11:45 | se6astian | so how are the plans for a larger sensor search progressing?
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| 14:40 | Bertl | hey Nira! how's it going? everything fine?
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| 14:45 | Nira | Hi, everything great! Hoping to finish the exams and have some free time!
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| 14:46 | Bertl | sounds great! good luck and have fun!
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| 14:46 | Nira | Thank you!!
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| 14:55 | se6astian | all the best
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| 16:13 | imback | I'm back......
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| 16:15 | imback | I don't have the cip sensor...but depend of haw many sensor purchase etc for the good price..
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| 16:17 | imback | but in china, only idea, is possible...
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| 16:31 | imback | ;-)
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| 18:17 | Bertl_oO | hey aSobhy! how's it going? everything fine?
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| 18:27 | aSobhy | yeah fine, finished my deadlines and discussions and now free for searching time
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| 18:27 | aSobhy | I'll make alot of noise here ^_^
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| 18:28 | Bertl | excellent! did you get to checking the Main Board schematic yet?
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| 18:31 | aSobhy | not yet I'm serching on the link of vserver.13thfloor
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| 18:32 | Bertl | okay, you know where to find the schematic?
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| 18:34 | aSobhy | Am I on the wrong way ?
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| 18:34 | Bertl | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/AXIOM_Beta_Main_Board_V0.36_R1.2
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| 18:34 | Bertl | you want to download Eagle 7.7.0 for easy viewing
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| 18:35 | Bertl | (we should probably do PDFs for all the schematics :)
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| 18:36 | aSobhy | OK downloading it i forgot to download it last time :/
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| 18:40 | vup | wasn't the plan to switch to kicad some day anyways?
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| 18:41 | vup | maybe the eagle importer can finally handle the mainboard...
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| 18:41 | Bertl | yes, but like the PDFs, lot of work and nobody has time to do it ...
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| 18:45 | vup | yes of course
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| 18:45 | vup | but also ~6 months ago the kicad importer couldn't handle the mainboard
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| 18:45 | vup | but it seems it can import it fine now
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| 18:46 | Bertl | yes, maybe it can nowadays
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| 18:46 | vup | 4 unrouted, but maybe thats normal?
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| 18:46 | Bertl | doesn't sound to bad
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| 18:47 | Bertl | best generate gerbers and compare them with gerbview
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| 18:55 | vup | hmm how do you generate the gerbers in eagle?
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| 18:56 | Bertl | with the cam tool, but they can be downloaded (simpler)
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| 18:56 | Bertl | (4th button from left, with the two film snippets)
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| 18:58 | vup | and then just using the gerb274x-4layer job?
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| 18:58 | Bertl | you need to select the correct layers for each gerber output
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| 18:59 | Bertl | it's a little complicated
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| 18:59 | Bertl | I have a script somewhere, sec
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| 19:00 | vup | one thing i can say even without comparing the gerbers is that kicad doesn't like the smooth corners
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| 19:00 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/gen_gerber.sh
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| 19:02 | Bertl | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/gen_gerber_beta.sh
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| 19:02 | Bertl | (the second one handles the 'Beta' assembly variant
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| 19:04 | vup | axiom_beta_main_board_v0.36_r1.2 is not set to assembly variant 'Beta'!
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| 19:05 | Bertl | yeah, you need to select it in the schematic, and then save board file new
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| 19:05 | Bertl | (it is weird how Eagle handles this .. ;)
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| 19:09 | vup | Board contains a polygon that may cause extremely large plot data.
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| 19:09 | vup | Continue?
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| 19:09 | vup | Canceled (option '-N' was given).
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| 19:09 | vup | is that normal?
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| 19:09 | Bertl | yes
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| 19:11 | vup | ok
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| 19:23 | vup | hmm seems like keepout areas are not supported yet
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| 19:24 | Bertl | okay, that's bad/problematic
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| 19:24 | vup | yes
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| 19:25 | vup | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1818091 waiting for kicad 6.0 for the next try ;)
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| 19:27 | Bertl | is there a release date for 6.0 :)
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| 19:28 | Bertl | btw, do you know what the status for library conversion between Eagle and KiCad currently is?
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| 19:29 | vup | do release date for 6.0 afaik
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| 19:29 | vup | s/do/no/
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| 19:29 | Bertl | yeah, wasn't expecting one ...
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| 19:29 | vup | well let me look at what kicad generated
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| 19:39 | vup | looks like footprints work
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| 19:39 | vup | symbols not
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| 19:39 | vup | (for libraries that is)
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| 19:40 | Bertl | interesting
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| 19:40 | vup | when importing a eagle schematic to kicad the more complicated symbols also break
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| 19:40 | vup | for example on the mainboard the second sheet
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| 19:41 | vup | https://files.niemo.de/Ausgabe.pdf
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| 19:42 | Bertl | ah, the labels seem to go in the wrong direction
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| 19:42 | vup | yes
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| 19:43 | vup | also all the pins are named the same
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| 19:43 | Bertl | probably a simple bug with the rotation attribute
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| 19:43 | Bertl | are they?
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| 19:44 | vup | well on this sheet i mean
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| 19:44 | vup | all >GATE
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| 19:44 | vup | a opposed to JX1_SE or something like that
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| 19:44 | Bertl | ah, the gate names, yes, indeed
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| 19:45 | Bertl | this is probably due to missing 'macro' expansion
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| 19:45 | Bertl | there are some 'variables' in eagle with special meaning
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| 19:45 | Bertl | like >GATE for example which can be used in labels/names/etc
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| 19:46 | vup | i see
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| 21:14 | johnathan | hey all, finally got back to working on things. I'm wondering how to reconfigure the memory so that the hdmi output and camera capture does not overlap? i.e. change the base mapping 0x18000000 so triggering a capture won't disturb hdmi output?
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| 21:15 | se6astian | hi johnathan, great to have you back
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| 21:15 | se6astian | Bertl: will surely be able to help with that
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| 21:16 | Bertl | hey johnathan!
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| 21:20 | johnathan | hey how's it going?
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| 21:21 | Bertl | fine, thanks! and you?
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| 21:22 | johnathan | good, sorry for long delay I was pulled onto another project at work
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| 21:22 | johnathan | so now I have all my time to focus on getting things working with this project
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| 21:22 | Bertl | sounds great! too good to be true actually :)
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| 21:23 | Bertl | to answer your question, there are address generators for both reading and writing data from/to DDR memory
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| 21:24 | johnathan | they seem to overlap in the capture and hdmi output?
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| 21:24 | Bertl | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/CMV12000_Register_Blocks lists the Write Address Generator at 0x6010xxxx
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| 21:24 | johnathan | which makes sense for hdmi pass through
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| 21:25 | johnathan | ah I see
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| 21:26 | Bertl | similar registers for the readers exist at 0x8010xxxx
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| 21:27 | Bertl | they are set with gen_reg (from hdmi.func) in rmem_conf.sh
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| 21:31 | johnathan | what are the multiple buffers for? in 0x601xxxxx?
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| 21:31 | johnathan | it seems normally triggering a capture the data is written to 0x18000000, from all the code in cmv_snap3 that is hard=coded?
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| 21:32 | Bertl | the buffers are for (up to quadruple) buffering input and output
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| 21:33 | Bertl | because the sensor and the HDMI output are not necessarily synced
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| 21:33 | Bertl | so basically the sensor data gets sampled into buffer 1, then 2, then 3, then 4 and then again into 1
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| 21:33 | Bertl | and the HDMI output switches to the next buffer whenever the sensor data arrived there
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| 21:34 | Bertl | you can also 'disable' certain buffers e.g. when taking a snapshot
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| 21:35 | johnathan | fil_reg 15 0x010000100? this disables the first buffer?
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| 21:40 | johnathan | basically what I want to do is disable one of the buffers maybe, or prevent the sensor data from being written into it, and only have the hdmi use a single buffer for output
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| 21:41 | Bertl | the easiest way to do that is to set all the HDMI buffers to a different address space than the writers
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| 21:42 | Bertl | the default buffer addresses are 0x18000000, 0x1A000000, 0x1C000000 and 0x1E000000
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| 21:42 | Bertl | if you don't care much about the writer data
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| 21:43 | Bertl | just set the writer buffers to 0x18000000 and 0x1A000000
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| 21:43 | Bertl | and use 0x1C000000 and 0x1E000000 for the HDMI readers
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| 21:43 | Bertl | or just 0x1C000000 if you don't care about update problems
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| 21:47 | johnathan | ok cool I'll give it a shot, thanks
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| 21:49 | Bertl | no problem, you're welcome!
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| 21:50 | johnathan | great, looks like it worked! thanks!
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| 21:50 | Bertl | my pleasure!
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| 21:59 | johnathan | is there a way to set which buffer is active (output from hdmi)? i.e. buffer0, 1, etc?
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| 22:02 | Bertl | not directly
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| 22:02 | Bertl | you can advance the counter and you can query it
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| 22:20 | aSobhy | Bertl: I have opened the schematic and board, the schematic appeared in 6 layers with the second layer "ZYNQ LVDS Interface"
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| 22:21 | aSobhy | Is that what I am targeting
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| 22:21 | Bertl | there are several pages for the schematic (what you call 'layers')
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| 22:21 | Bertl | two pages describe the routing fabrics (IIRC, the last two)
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| 22:22 | Bertl | those are the most interesting for you
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| 22:23 | aSobhy | Interface Fabric West & East ?
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| 22:23 | Bertl | yup, those are the two MachXO2
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| 22:33 | Bertl | yes, page 5 (just checked) shows the RFW (routing fabric west) which is the one on the side with the PCIe plugin slots
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| 22:33 | Bertl | and page 6 shows the RFE (routing fabric east) which is on the other side
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| 22:34 | Bertl | both connect to the shield connectors above and below them
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| 22:34 | Bertl | as well as the PIC on the other side of the mainboard
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| 22:34 | Bertl | the LVDS connections to the Zynq are those with the 100R resistors
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| 22:35 | Bertl | page 4 shows all the board connectors (except for the microzed connections
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| 22:36 | Bertl | i.e. you can see the PCIe connectors there as well as the center solder on areas which are too connected to the MachXO2
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| 22:50 | aSobhy | understanding...
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| 22:52 | aSobhy | so the East MaxhXO2 has 2 LVSD and the West has 1 pair
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| 22:53 | Bertl | yup
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| 23:08 | aSobhy | Is their a way to select a pin to show where is it on board ?
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| 23:08 | aSobhy | a pin in schematic **
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| 23:09 | se6astian | yes, I also had that question some time ago
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| 23:09 | se6astian | let me check the symbol
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| 23:10 | se6astian | the second icon - the "eye"
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| 23:11 | se6astian | highlights the footprint pin but also the schematic pin out
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| 23:18 | aSobhy | yeah It works :D
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| 23:19 | aSobhy | thanks se6astian ^_^
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| 23:21 | se6astian | great!
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| 23:29 | vup | all schematics on the server converted to pdf's: https://files.niemo.de/axiom_pdfs/HARDWARE/AXIOM/
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| 23:30 | Bertl | yay!
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| 23:31 | vup | (from http://files.apertus.org/HARDWARE/)
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| 23:31 | se6astian | wonderful
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| 23:31 | se6astian | lets make sure we move them over to the hardware dir on apertus.org
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| 23:32 | vup | yeah, feel free to move them
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| 23:32 | vup | they should have the same directory layout as those have already
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| 23:32 | se6astian | great
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| 23:32 | se6astian | made a note as I will head to bed now
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| 23:32 | se6astian | but feel free to take care of it in the meantime
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| 23:33 | Bertl | I presume this was done with a script, yes?
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| 23:33 | se6astian | otherwise I will do it
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| 23:33 | se6astian | good night!
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| 23:33 | Bertl | nn
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| 23:33 | vup | good night!
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| 23:33 | vup | https://files.niemo.de/axiom_pdfs/get_pdfs.sh
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| 23:33 | vup | the script to generate them
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| 23:35 | Bertl | nice
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