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comradekingu: how do you mean?

oh well :P

intracube: actually its because we now have a dedicated proofreading person employed :)

se6astian: ah ok :)

I dont know whos proofreading, but thats not the biggest problem. For what its worth, the editing and articles ive changed are proofread by a proper brit

comradekingu: it seems to me (note that I'm not authoring those articles) that the author(s) of said articles do not like the changes you force on them

note that I also completely understand that you want/would write those articles completely different (there is nothing bad in that), and if you want to spend the time to make an 'alternate' version, I would really investigate the option

Im not forcing anything on anyone, im editing. That is up for review the same way my edits were carried out

By and large, creativity, artistic or original intent is not at play or risk.

Nobody loses anything of value if the level of clarity and professionalism is kicked up a notch

Im open to that

One is not the issue

and style/content changes in another?

Its language, its english, it communicates a message, how that is interpreted is not irrelevant

note that I'm not involved in the articles, I'm the tech person working on hardware and software

The actual changes I do ends up being done, by someone else, in a mediocre way.

You have some aspiration, you have some goals, you are at some point aware that it needs to be put forth in a format that isnt software or hardware

Either its a closely-knit society that knows best what its doing, and does it alone. Or its a community, in a broader sense.

The difference there is the actual definition of what makes that audience. Is it people who are techical to see beyond the communication.

Or, does the communication serve a purpose to any and all, novice and pro.

Good, lets have the same for communication

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want e.g. sebastian to rewrite a genuine article you wrote in his favorite style (ignoring grammar and syntax for now)

so, as I said, I see several options here:

If someone came along, like me, doing work and giving good reasons for doing it, i'd be amazed

Writing articles isnt what i do

c) you create an alternate version of the existing articles which follow your style and we figure out a way to make them available

That would atleast be somewhat useful

When i present the apertus project to people, i point them to Encrypted messages

And if i could share articles that I deem ready to serve a reader, that would be a bonus

It was partly about de-bayering, which nobody in here seemed to like, and which i found hard to read

It saw some edits, largely proofreading-level, and its still poor

If novice users, like me, have a hard time reading it, and advanced users, like you, find it to be so-so, then we have a problem

that's the problem with having several authors and thus individual taste and style, some articles will be great, others not so, and all lies in the eye of the reader ...

Wikipedia has the most authors in history, and the quality isnt just a matter of throwing all editorial efforts to the wind

Let me do a live example of how i think this plays out

"The goal of the global community-driven apertus° project is"

Now that should be globally, or have a comma behind global, this is proof-reading, not the issue

im one sentence in, and the most important thing to convey is that its powerful, as a goal. Nobody aims to make underpowered or weak things, so thats one superlative for the wind

Which, if I at this point understood what Free in terms of hardware was, would be great, but i dont, because its not explained

Speaking of which, im losing interest as a reader here. "Product line" of what?

maybe the web pages need a discussion (talk) section for each page (as on beforementioned wikipedia)

This is it, this is what we are doing, you question my ability, i question your rationale

In what measure is this discovered, and more importantly, how

We are left to guess the intent and meaning

If you served me 10 of those, for different products, id be hard pressed to pick the one that was as unique to the others as apertus is

This is how things are, its not esoteric.

Im using my free time, nothing i ever did has my name on it, just acknowledge the issue of communication and move on fixing it.

I'd rather there was a preview, editing, decision-making, proofreading, and then publishing.

The role of a newsdesk is to be there, for good reasons. Doing nothing is an active decision.

aombk2: https://apertus.org/project-elmyra-article-july-2015 https://apertus.org/axiom-beta-roadmap-article-july-2015 https://apertus.org/from-cameras-to-colors-to-creativity-article-august-2015 https://apertus.org/what-is-debayering-article-october-2015 https://apertus.org/ars-electronica-10-years-digital-communities-article-nov-2015 https://apertus.org/axiom-beta-hardware-complete-first-moving-images-team-talk-8-article-december-2015

What i would like to add to that is a generic overview of acheivements/where we are

https://apertus.org/axiom-beta-roadmap is really good

off for a nap ... bbl