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12:33 | Bertl | morning folks!
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13:57 | TofuLynx | Good Afternoon!
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14:00 | se6astian | hi TofuLynx!
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15:22 | TofuLynx | TeamTalk released?
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15:23 | TofuLynx | :D
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15:28 | RexOrCine | Yes.
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15:28 | se6astian | https://www.apertus.org/axiom-team-talk-14-1-moving-facilites-updates-gsoc-projects-article
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15:42 | TofuLynx | se6astian: The Uranus and Mars room seem a bit dark, is it normal?
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17:16 | nmdis199- | The new office looks really cool! :D
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17:39 | TofuLynx | By the way, I will be a bit late to the meeting.
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17:40 | TofuLynx | Aroumd 15 minutes late
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17:57 | Bertl | meeting officially starts in three minutes ...
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17:57 | Bertl | but a few folks will be late and/or might not come at all (JFYI)
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17:57 | g3gg0-mobile | Hi
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17:57 | nmdis199- | Good evening everyone!
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17:59 | g3gg0-mobile | Hi supragya
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17:59 | supragya | Hi g3gg0-mobile
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18:01 | supragya | I found a color matrix (XYZ to RGB) value in dng.c
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18:01 | supragya | I think I'll have to use it
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18:02 | BAndiT1983 | or you can take pre-defined ones -> http://www.brucelindbloom.com/index.html?Eqn_RGB_XYZ_Matrix.html
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18:02 | supragya | any other issues you found with the mlv?
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18:02 | Bertl | okay, so let's wait a few more minutes before we start
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18:02 | supragya | Hi BAndiT1983
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18:02 | nmdis199- | okay! :)
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18:02 | BAndiT1983 | hi supragya
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18:02 | g3gg0-mobile | The RGB should be the camera one
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18:02 | Bertl | you can prepare your presentations in the meantime :)
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18:03 | g3gg0-mobile | Didnt check, it arrived in the night. Can only check tonight
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18:04 | supragya | I don't really know the meaning of color matrix
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18:04 | supragya | can I get some references to read?
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18:05 | BAndiT1983 | http://www.odelama.com/photo/Developing-a-RAW-Photo-by-hand/Developing-a-RAW-Photo-by-hand_Part-2/
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18:05 | g3gg0-mobile | Thanjs
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18:05 | BAndiT1983 | https://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=1157.0
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18:06 | g3gg0-mobile | Brucelindbloom is perfect
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18:06 | g3gg0-mobile | Was also my reference
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18:07 | rahul_ | good evening everyone
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18:07 | ArunM | hello
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18:08 | g3gg0-mobile | Hi
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18:08 | se6astian | good evening, sorry for the delay
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18:09 | ymc98_2 | Hello everyone. Good evening
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18:09 | nmdis199- | Great team talk , se6astian!
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18:10 | rahul_ | yes, it was really nice @se6astian!
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18:10 | se6astian | thanks, glad you liked it
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18:10 | supragya | was that all apertus'?
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18:11 | se6astian | I hope I covered your all projects adequately, rahuls color peaking only got a very brief mention for example.
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18:11 | nmdis199- | It was good :)
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18:12 | se6astian | thanks
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18:12 | se6astian | like always please pm me now so I can put you in speaking order
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18:12 | TofuLynx | Hello
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18:13 | se6astian | evaluatings are coming up so I assume its a very busy time currently :)
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18:13 | se6astian | order is: rahul, TofuLynx, nmdis199-
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18:14 | se6astian | rahul_ you are free to start
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18:14 | rahul_ | Thank you
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18:16 | rahul_ | For the second evaluation deliverables, as mentioned in the last meeting, I successfully finished the simulations of my IP, I am currently instantiating the IP into the AXIOM beta pipeline and I hope to get it done successfully by this Wednesday so that I can start my implementation on the actual FPGA fabric.
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18:17 | rahul_ | I am about 1 and half weeks ahead of the scheduled mentioned in my proposal! and hope to get everything done before visiting the office in August so that I have enough time for the final tweeks!
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18:17 | rahul_ | thats all from my side!
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18:17 | se6astian | great, thanks!
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18:18 | se6astian | TofuLynx: you turn!
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18:18 | TofuLynx | se6astian: Ok!
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18:19 | TofuLynx | So, last week, I finished the Code Documentation and published it to the apertus wiki
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18:19 | TofuLynx | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/OpenCine#Code_Documentation
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18:19 | TofuLynx | Apart from this, I have been discussing with my mentor about what to do next
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18:20 | TofuLynx | And we decided to move from OpenMP to OpenCL
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18:20 | TofuLynx | As such, I spent the last days learning about OpenCL and today I setted up my computer for OpenCL development
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18:21 | TofuLynx | So, the next days I will be accelerating the debayering methods with OpenCL and hopeful without any problems
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18:22 | TofuLynx | In sum, the last week was mainly cleaning up the code and finishing the documentation, while preparing myself for the OpenCL
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18:22 | TofuLynx | I found OpenCL very hard to find resources
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18:22 | TofuLynx | But I think I am set off for a good start!
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18:23 | TofuLynx | And that's all, se6astian :)
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18:23 | BAndiT1983 | opencl is very common, google has a lot of hits, if you need help just ask
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18:23 | TofuLynx | Sure, thanks!
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18:23 | rahul_ | yes, even I had openCL this semester in my university
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18:23 | rahul_ | I have some nice documentation
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18:23 | rahul_ | that can rally help
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18:23 | TofuLynx | Can you send it? :D
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18:23 | rahul_ | as well as I can give some image processing code to get a head start
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18:24 | se6astian | did you tap into shaders (cuda, etc.) before?
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18:24 | rahul_ | surely
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18:24 | rahul_ | :)
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18:24 | TofuLynx | I haven't add the oportunity to do parallel acceleration in my university yet. Only next year!
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18:25 | TofuLynx | No, I didnt, se6astian
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18:25 | rahul_ | my documents will include both CUDA as well as openCL ,
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18:25 | TofuLynx | I will only learn about OpenCL, OpenGL and stuff next year
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18:25 | TofuLynx | by "learn" I mean, take classes xD Obviously I will now learn it for Apertus xD
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18:25 | se6astian | right, maybe a good start point (of course please discuss with mentor) is doing some game development related basic shaders/tutorials
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18:26 | se6astian | just an idea to get into the topic
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18:26 | BAndiT1983 | shaders are different than opencl
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18:26 | se6astian | ah, I thought its closely related
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18:26 | BAndiT1983 | "opencl tutorial" offers a lot at google
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18:27 | TofuLynx | Yeah, but I was to ask you, will we use OpenCL 2.0 or 1.0?
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18:27 | BAndiT1983 | nope, opencl has other goals, so it's focus lying on processing bytes a lot
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18:27 | TofuLynx | Because most resources are about 1.0 and dont work with 2.0
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18:27 | BAndiT1983 | latest of course,
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18:27 | BAndiT1983 | ?
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18:27 | BAndiT1983 | opencl 2.0 is there for years already
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18:28 | TofuLynx | That's strange, when I googled I only found tutorials regarding 1.X
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18:28 | BAndiT1983 | check the history -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL
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18:29 | TofuLynx | yeahm 2013
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18:29 | se6astian | TofuLynx: closure question, how far ahead/behind do you consider your general progress related to the proposed timeline?
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18:30 | TofuLynx | It really depends, If we take in account the existing OpenMP accelerations, it's almost finished
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18:30 | BAndiT1983 | http://developer.amd.com/wordpress/media/2013/12/AMD_OpenCL_Programming_User_Guide2.pdf
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18:30 | TofuLynx | However, with OpenCL I am "restarting" over again in the acceleration timeline
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18:31 | BAndiT1983 | opencl is just an extension for the gsoc tasks, as we have most things covered, but i suppose that we have to appraoch the video sequences in next days, so we can do real tests
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18:31 | se6astian | right!
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18:31 | TofuLynx | Understood!
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18:32 | TofuLynx | By the way, regarding the opencl
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18:32 | TofuLynx | I was planning to do some basic exercises such as matrix summation and stuff
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18:32 | se6astian | is there a binary release of OC already so the "normal folk" gets a chance to test it?
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18:32 | BAndiT1983 | TofuLynx: https://software.intel.com/en-us/intel-opencl-support/code-samples
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18:33 | BAndiT1983 | not yet, but we can adjust travis-ci build, so the artifacts are not deleted, but uploaded to github "releases" section
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18:33 | TofuLynx | Oh, that's great!
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18:33 | TofuLynx | By the way, had a glimpse on the image objects
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18:33 | TofuLynx | will we use it?
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18:33 | se6astian | travis build releases sounds good
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18:33 | se6astian | but even a single manual upload would be appreciated, whatever makes less trouble
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18:33 | BAndiT1983 | TofuLynx: it's up to you to evaluate what we need
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18:34 | BAndiT1983 | there is also interaction between opengl and opencl, if it helps for our stuf
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18:34 | TofuLynx | Okay, makes sense!
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18:34 | TofuLynx | Will work on it!
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18:34 | se6astian | nmdis199-: your turn
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18:34 | nmdis199- | Okay!
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18:34 | BAndiT1983 | okay, we will focus on linux first and build general executable
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18:35 | nmdis199- | In first week I worked solely on waveform tool (and read more about it) initially I wanted to calculate luma waveform and rgb waveform but in first week I could do only tool for luma.
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18:35 | nmdis199- | I faced one problem with it though, because at that time I didn’t know the data provided by /dev/mem I wasn’t able to verify the tool.
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18:35 | nmdis199- | So, next week Bertl suggested me to try and understand mimg tool and cmv_snap3 so that I could load and dump the data to and from memory. Second week, we discussed about mimg and then I started working on two tools load_raw() and dump_raw().
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18:36 | nmdis199- | These tools dealt with raw image and were meant to read/write raw image files.
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18:36 | nmdis199- | I spend next week writing the tools but it had some problem, I was not “loading†the data from the memory to process in dump_raw().
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18:36 | nmdis199- | So, this was the part where I got stuck, probably because I didn’t understood at that time how data was differently stored in frame buffer and raw image.
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18:37 | nmdis199- | Bertl helped me to understand it by providing a demo tools and telling me how the data was stored. We discussed quite a lot on this and therefore,Last week, I was successfully able to understand the problem.
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18:37 | nmdis199- | Now, I can say I am comfortable to understand how cmv_snap3, cmv_hist3 and mimg are working. So, finally after understanding how to use the line frame buffer My next task is to implement these tools in my utilities(histogram,waveform) which I started working on already.
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18:37 | nmdis199- | :)
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18:37 | nmdis199- | I’ll also discuss with plotting the graph of tools with external library, or maybe I’ll create one myself (depending on the requirement).
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18:37 | nmdis199- | https://github.com/nmdis1999/load_raw
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18:37 | nmdis199- | https://github.com/nmdis1999/Test-Files
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18:37 | nmdis199- | https://github.com/nmdis1999/dump_raw/
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18:38 | nmdis199- | All codes are available on beta : /opt/ITI/waveform - > for calculating luminance
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18:38 | nmdis199- | /opt/ITI/load_raw() , /opt/ITI/dump_raw() and /opt/ITI/new_tools
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18:38 | nmdis199- | That's all!
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18:39 | nmdis199- | Probably next week I'll be working on improvising the tools and trying new features on them.
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18:39 | se6astian | nmdis199-: thanks
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18:39 | se6astian | are they captured images already of the waveform?
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18:40 | Bertl | s/they/there/
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18:40 | nmdis199- | no, the load_raw() and dump_raw() basically was to process the data. I couldn't got time to plot the waveform with the library you suggested because we were working on the two tools at that time.
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18:40 | se6astian | right
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18:41 | se6astian | how do you consider your progress ahead/behind schedule?
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18:41 | nmdis199- | testPlot was meant as test code to plot the waveform. But we definitely would need to discuss the library as well.
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18:41 | nmdis199- | It's going with timeline, though we had additional tool as well (so couldn't test much ) but the tools were of great help!
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18:41 | nmdis199- | probably need more work with waveform tool
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18:43 | nmdis199- | that's it I guess :)
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18:43 | se6astian | many thanks!
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18:43 | se6astian | supragya is up next
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18:43 | rahul_ | I have to catch a flight, it was nice discussion, bye everyone
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18:43 | TofuLynx | Goodbye rahul_!
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18:43 | nmdis199- | bye! Have a safe journey!
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18:43 | supragya | In my last evaluation, I was able to encode MLV files and verify them using mlv_dump In this phase, in the beginning, I was asked to look at the DNG structure better. I was able to learn the TIFF/EP system and understand encoding The next phase began with me integrating mv_dump / mlvfs in the current emulator. This took some time but I was able to do it. We took a little detour to understand linearization table in DNGs/CDNG. With a
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18:43 | Bertl | cya, and have a safe flight!
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18:43 | supragya | Sorry
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18:43 | supragya | .... here goes ...
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18:44 | supragya | In my last evaluation, I was able to encode MLV files and verify them using mlv_dump
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18:44 | supragya | In this phase, in the beginning, I was asked to look at the DNG structure better. I was able to learn the TIFF/EP system and understand encoding
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18:44 | supragya | The next phase began with me integrating mv_dump / mlvfs in the current emulator. This took some time but I was able to do it.
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18:44 | supragya | We took a little detour to understand linearization table in DNGs/CDNG. With a few hiccups, a synthetic linearization table was added in mlvfs.
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18:44 | supragya | Since then I have been working on making MLVFS work with our MLV format and convert to a DNG. There have been a few issues with struct writing for example - g3gg0 is helping me sort these out.
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18:44 | supragya | In short, we are really close to getting a full fledged DNG using the emulator. Should only take a week or so (since I have been travelling a lot because of my college).....
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18:44 | supragya | I think that wraps it up.
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18:45 | supragya | Since getting a final DNG out is the final objective of my project, I think I am ahead of schedule..... However, your comments would really help
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18:46 | supragya | (in assessing the progress)
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18:46 | se6astian | many thanks
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18:47 | se6astian | please elaborate on the kind of feedback you are looking for regarding progress
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18:47 | supragya | g3gg0-mobile wanted me to show some DNGs this evaluation
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18:48 | supragya | While I am working on it... The issues are with mere values in struct being incorrect
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18:49 | supragya | I am trying to debug it.... However, cannot be sure of the outputs as I am not at home since last 10 days... travelling a lot
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18:49 | supragya | ... views regarding this
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18:52 | Bertl | okay
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18:53 | se6astian | ok, will leave that to g3gg0-mobile as I understand it
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18:53 | se6astian | many thanks!
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18:53 | se6astian | anyone wants to add/report anything in addition to that?
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18:53 | supragya | thank you!
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18:53 | se6astian | now is the time
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18:53 | Bertl | ArunM: ping?
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18:53 | ArunM | yes
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18:53 | ArunM | was just about to ask :)
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18:53 | ArunM | Hello everyone
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18:54 | Bertl | okay, please go ahead then :)
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18:54 | ArunM | A little turn in the sequence of events as i am now integrating the code into main firmware for testing
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18:54 | ArunM | rather than the designing the GENERATOR as mentioned in the proposal (after discussing that with my mentor :) )
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18:54 | ArunM | But things are on track with the integration part
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18:54 | ArunM | Updated my code as problems started arising in the Sequencer , the sequencer part is not commented but will take care of that too
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18:54 | ArunM | here is the repository again
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18:54 | ArunM | https://github.com/arun13e/Image_Sensor_Emulation/tree/master/IMAGE_SENSOR
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18:54 | ArunM | And soon be testing on the real Axiom beta
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18:54 | ArunM | Nothing much to discuss other than few hurdles while getting used to of the original firmware
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18:55 | ArunM | documentation of code is still left though
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18:55 | ArunM | regarding progress with proposal's timeline
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18:55 | ArunM | considering Generator is done mid way and integration was meant for next evaluation,
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18:56 | ArunM | i think am going along with the proposal's timeline
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18:56 | Bertl | yep, sounds good to me
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18:56 | Bertl | ymc98_2: ping
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18:57 | se6astian | ArunM: many thanks for the report
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18:57 | se6astian | felix_: you wanted to report on SDI hardware development progress
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18:58 | felix_ | yes, i made some progress with the sdi board; here a screenshot of the pcb https://i.imgur.com/rSXOFr9.jpg
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18:58 | felix_ | i published the current state of the schematics and board here https://github.com/felixheld/AXIOM-photonSDI-hw
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18:59 | BAndiT1983 | nice
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18:59 | felix_ | and just made a pdf export of the schematics http://sigsegv.notmysegfault.de/intern/AXIOM-photonSDI-hw.pdf
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19:00 | felix_ | i hope that i get the board ready this week; there's not too much left to do, but i'll have a wisdom tooth surgery this week
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19:00 | BAndiT1983 | ouch
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19:00 | g3gg0 | uuuuh
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19:01 | ymc98_2 | Should I start?
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19:02 | se6astian | felix_: many thanks and all the best for the surgery
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19:02 | se6astian | ymc98_2: yes please
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19:02 | felix_ | oh and since it won't be that much work to make a variant of the board with display port ++ output, i'm planning to create a variant of this board with a display port output instead
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19:02 | TofuLynx | Hope you have a fast recovery from the surgery, felix_!
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19:02 | felix_ | i'm not planning to work on the gateware side of that module though
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19:02 | felix_ | thx
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19:02 | se6astian | felix_: great, understood
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19:02 | felix_ | (of the dp++ module)
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19:03 | felix_ | getting the gateware for the sdi module ready and published is definitely on my todo list
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19:03 | nmdis199- | will be going to have dinner. Have a goodnight everyone!
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19:03 | TofuLynx | Goodnight! :)
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19:03 | felix_ | i think i wrote everything i wanted to write now
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19:04 | se6astian | great, thanks
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19:04 | se6astian | now ymc98_2 you can start
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19:04 | ymc98_2 | I have synthesized transmitter and receiver for the MachXO2. It was more challenging compared to designing the same for Zynq due to limited availability of primitives suitable for project's purposes. To be honest I'm a bit behind schedule.
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19:05 | ymc98_2 | I have resolved a few timing issues. Few yet to be resolved. Currently making tcl scripts for the transmitter and receiver.
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19:05 | ymc98_2 | Very soon I will have the makefiles to build my code.
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19:06 | Bertl | looking forward to initial tests on real hardware!
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19:06 | ymc98_2 | Me too.
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19:07 | ymc98_2 | That's all from my end
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19:07 | Bertl | great! thanks!
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19:08 | Bertl | anybody else who wants to report something?
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19:08 | se6astian | quick report from me:
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19:09 | se6astian | manfred our precision engineer has successfully injection molded our first 2 heatsink prototypes for an improved AXIOM Beta developer kit (larger heatsink, larger fan, slower spinning)
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19:09 | se6astian | me and herbert have received one heatsink each
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19:09 | se6astian | and it looks excellent!
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19:10 | felix_ | ooh, nice. do you have pictures of the heatsinks?
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19:10 | se6astian | we will cover this extensively with one of the next team talks, the whole story with the first failed injection mold attempts
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19:10 | se6astian | will upload image, one sec
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19:15 | se6astian | http://files.apertus.org/AXIOM-Beta/heatsink-prototype.jpg
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19:17 | se6astian | IIRC this is a graphene based thermally conductive plastic
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19:18 | se6astian | its not as liquid when heated up (for the injection process) as standard plastics so manfred had to go through some challenges to get this inject smoothly
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19:19 | se6astian | thats it for todays meeting
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19:19 | se6astian | many thanks everyone for being here and participating
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19:19 | BAndiT1983 | what's the difference to common heatsinks?
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19:20 | se6astian | to close the meeting here is some exceptionally well worded and motivational comment from youtube to our latest team talk release: ""It's nice to see that with our money you always buy funny videos, a lot of machines of which we the backer have nothing at all after years. I'm sure I speak to a lot of people supportive that you really should be ashamed of yourselves. ""
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19:20 | BAndiT1983 | someone has missed the meaning of crowdfunding and backer out there
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19:21 | se6astian | well traditional heatsinks are solid metal (aluminum) so they require a much higher mold casting (if they are molded at all) temperature
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19:21 | se6astian | aluminum: 660.3 °C
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19:22 | se6astian | which makes this process much more difficult for DIYers like us
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19:22 | felix_ | how is the thermal conductivity compared to heatsinks made from some aluminium alloy?
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19:22 | BAndiT1983 | what about the specs of this one compared to copper or aluminium? like expected temperature drop
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19:26 | se6astian | I dont have the specific material name at hand currently
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19:26 | se6astian | from what I remember though the thermal conductivity was very close to that of aluminum
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19:27 | felix_ | nice
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19:27 | se6astian | we will get the details when manfred returns from vacation at the end of this week
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19:28 | felix_ | no worries; was just being curious
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19:28 | se6astian | we are also curious :)
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19:29 | Bertl | we probably should have some real world test results soon
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19:29 | Bertl | i.e. anwering the question: how does it perfom on a MicroZed/Beta
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19:35 | se6astian | https://twitter.com/ApertusOSCinema/status/1016390222664302593
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21:39 | anuejn | felix_: how hard would it be to make a version with a sata 6g plug?
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22:39 | se6astian | good night
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