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2016/05/09

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Spirit532_
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
good morning
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RexOrCine
Greets
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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Bertl
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RexOrCine
Anything good going on? Two units out today aye?
14:01
se6astian
had to delay shipping until tomorrow
14:03
RexOrCine
Right
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Spirit532
Hey apertus, Bertl_oO, se6astian, I think paypal is now fine with crowdfunding/prepurchases
15:25
Spirit532
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full
15:26
Bertl_oO
yeah, but probably only with a crowd funding platform
15:27
Spirit532
But wasn't indiegogo one?
15:27
Spirit532
With the prepurchase vouchers
15:27
Bertl_oO
yes, but not sure they will see it the same e.g. for current phase 1 payments, etc
15:28
Bertl_oO
during indigogo it was fine with paypal
15:28
Bertl_oO
but se6astian has the details there ...
15:28
Spirit532
Did you get your account unfrozen?
15:29
Bertl_oO
I guess so
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se6astian
the problem was never the crowdfunding money
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se6astian
which indiegogo also raises through paypal
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Spirit532
Do you get paid by indiegogo, or directly by all backers?
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se6astian
indiegogo
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se6astian
does anybody else notice SSL problems with https://www.apertus.org ?
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kaiserli_
yes
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kaiserli_
certificate?
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kaiserli_
expired
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kaiserli_
9 may (:
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kaiserli_
www.apertus.org uses an invalid security certificate.
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kaiserli_
The certificate expired on 9 May 2016 15:28. The current time is 9 May 2016 16:53.
15:54
se6astian
ok :)
15:54
se6astian
morrigan1: will renew it soon I hope
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kaiserli_
weird though, because i think normally, one can choose to still browse a site
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kaiserli_
ahh
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kaiserli_
ok: This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate.
15:57
Guillaume_Chooks
chrome block me for apertus.org and irc, and in the same time strange things one my email box, i was starting to be crazy, now im cool :) like relaxiom !
15:57
kaiserli_
lol
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se6astian
time to run :)
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se6astian
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
www.apertus.org is back!
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se6astian
thanks to lets encrypt
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se6astian
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Bertl_oO
off for a nap ... bbl
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Bertl_oO
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se6astian|away
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RexOrCine
Have a quick look at HC se6astian
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se6astian
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se6astian
off to bed
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se6astian
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Napejts
is it harder to learn c++ than c# f? i want to learn for a game engine, which takes over garbarge coll.
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Spirit532
If you are making a game engine with garbage collection in C#, you're doing your entire life wrong and you should rethink your career choices, Napejts
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Spirit532
But yes, C++ is much harder than C#
23:55
Napejts
lol
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Napejts
garbage coll. only at the engine, which uses c++ ;)
23:56
Napejts
i don't make the engine.
23:56
Spirit532
Which engine understands C++ & C#?
23:57
Spirit532
Unity is C# only, Unreal is C++ exclusively, aside from scripts
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Napejts
that is what i wrote.
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Napejts
i mean*
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Spirit532
From your message I assumed you wanted to make your own engine with garbage collection
00:00
Napejts
no
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Napejts
just which one i shouldlearn
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Spirit532
C++
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Napejts
ioh noo
00:04
Napejts
yaya. if you know c++ you know everything
00:04
Napejts
who cares,come on
00:04
Napejts
-_-
00:05
Spirit532
No....
00:05
Napejts
you don't learn driving in a suv
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Spirit532
If you know C++, you know C & C++
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Napejts
i do not need c
00:05
Spirit532
You do
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Spirit532
You're not writing all the code in C++
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Napejts
i need my own games.
00:05
Spirit532
Good
00:05
Spirit532
Learn C++
00:05
Napejts
c isn't used in UE
00:05
Spirit532
It is.
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Napejts
either it is c++. in 99% blueprint is enough i read
00:06
Napejts
you can do everything with bp
00:06
Spirit532
Blueprint means a fully blueprint game
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Spirit532
C++ is fully C++
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Spirit532
You choose either
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Napejts
you can combine c++ and bp in ue
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Napejts
c isn't used in UE
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Spirit532
It's not pure C++
00:07
Napejts
o0
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Napejts
what else
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Napejts
i know that c++ is build on c
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Napejts
and with oop
00:10
Spirit532
yes
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Napejts
so its not c
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Napejts
its c++
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Napejts
its not for free called c plus plus
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Napejts
and why do you recommend c++ as first lang.
00:14
Spirit532
because it's challenging, rewarding, and you can basically code anywhere you wish afterwards
00:14
Spirit532
be it the apertus camera or your smart watch
00:15
Napejts
i dont want that at the moment.
00:15
Spirit532
spare yourself the trouble
00:15
Napejts
for the first years i want only agame.
00:15
Spirit532
C++ is flexible
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Napejts
c++ makes trouble.
00:16
Spirit532
nope
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Napejts
ill first learn c#, then c++ :) how about that
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Spirit532
do that but backwards
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Napejts
lol
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Napejts
oh men
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Napejts
but theni cant use unity
00:22
Spirit532
unity is bad
00:23
Napejts
they have great asset store
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Napejts
:)
00:23
Spirit532
yeah, for garbage games
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Napejts
what matters is that they bring you enough money
00:25
Spirit532
nope
00:25
Spirit532
that's not how making games works
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Spirit532
stop right away
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Spirit532
abort
00:25
Napejts
there is no 0 or 1 / true or false
00:25
Napejts
life is grey colored.
00:25
Spirit532
nope nop nuuu abort.
00:26
Spirit532
you don't make games for money.
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Spirit532
(unless you're EA/Dice)
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Napejts
i see only companys like this
00:26
Spirit532
dunno
00:26
Spirit532
I've dumped 1500 hours into TF2 and I still find it fun
00:26
Napejts
every game wants money for his dev.
00:26
Spirit532
But not as the main goal
00:26
Napejts
ofc not
00:27
Napejts
but still money
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Napejts
has to be in this system