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| 09:49 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 10:26 | se6astian | good news: the 2.8" LCD from https://www.buydisplay.com/ arrived and is 100% compatible with adafruit one we were using
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| 10:27 | se6astian | I can't do a real A to B comparision as I can only plug in one LCD at the time but the first impression is that it might actually be a bit better with colors than the adafruit one
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| 10:29 | felix_ | nice
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| 10:29 | se6astian | quick phone picture snap: https://cloud.gerade.org/index.php/apps/gallery/s/ynZeeJXT3pbK6gw#20181208_112111_HDR.jpg
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| 10:29 | se6astian | the blue streak gave me a brief shock but its on the cover not the LCD itself :)
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| 17:08 | sanaris | Hello. If I am looking into digital camera design, I think that there's a lot of available designs. Some of them are open. Does it worth to tinker my own design or available ones are "universal" and "flexible"?
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| 17:09 | sanaris | I havn't yet decide whether I want good CCD sensor. And modern cameras are all gone into cheaper CMOS sensors for their designs/
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| 17:09 | sanaris | The price of good CCD sensor is just starting from 5 hundreds
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| 17:36 | se6astian | hi sanaris
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| 17:36 | se6astian | do you have a specific question we can help you with?
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| 17:37 | se6astian | not sure what you mean with "available ones" <- what are your requirements or what do you want to build exactly?
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| 17:43 | danieel | sanaris: which CCD do you consider good for your target application?
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| 17:47 | sanaris | The current plan is 16-bit large pixel sensor, similar to KAF-1608
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| 17:50 | se6astian | what is your target application?
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| 17:50 | sanaris | * KAF-16803, which is 9um*9um, 100k electron well with 3 electrons of dark current and 60% effectiveness
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| 17:52 | sanaris | It is the best fit into measurement applications I can find to my budget
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| 17:56 | Bertl_oO | what ADC(s) do you plan to use?
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| 17:57 | danieel | well KAF* will need a mechanical shutter I believe
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| 18:33 | sanaris | I have old unused cameras which can serve one more time as shutter-only devices
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| 18:34 | danieel | so this is for a photography project?
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| 18:35 | sanaris | I have checked, in one of designs I look into, the converter AD9826 is used to digitize the matrix
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| 18:36 | sanaris | Also I checked what Elphel do. They use FPGA's in their schemes.
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| 18:36 | danieel | it is not practical to use the vintage timing asics today
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| 18:37 | sanaris | First main question is clocking the matrix. Sony used their IC for their own matrices
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| 18:39 | sanaris | more like accurate measurement then photography, I want optics to accurately measure the incoming light, then cut light spectre with special filter and achieve filtered image
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| 18:40 | danieel | long story short.. purchase a used usb ccd camera and focus on the optics and math for evaluations
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| 18:43 | sanaris | First may be I will test this with some old CCD found on ebay or smth to understand how is possible to remove unneccessary IR filter and may be this will boost the CCD matrix in wider spectre. But I'm only stuck with old for now before I'm going for costly and modern CCDs
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| 18:43 | danieel | the spectral sensitivity is given in the datasheets, would be good to check first before commiting to any purchase
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| 18:45 | danieel | for practical uses I would not go with KAF unless some really specific aspect of it makes it the only choice
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| 18:46 | sanaris | KAF is the only choice which Mouser gives me. Those are documented and already used in similar (astrophotography) device.
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| 18:47 | sanaris | But this goes not like "photography", more like pure imaging.
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| 18:47 | danieel | better for lower cost design are the sony CCDs, e.g. ICX493AQA - you can source these pretty cheap from nikon parts
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| 18:47 | danieel | there are independent designs to drive these, mainly for astrophoto purposes
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| 18:47 | danieel | but it is COLOR, unlike the mono option for KAF
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| 19:00 | sanaris | That Sony CCD looks interesting. Why you think that KAF is problematic?
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| 19:04 | danieel | its more expensive, and if you do not know what you are doing.. then not he good one to start. Unless you go on with smaller res versions first, to clean your design bugs
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| 19:07 | sanaris | From datasheet I see that Sony has good quantum efficiency, but lacks well size.
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| 19:10 | sanaris | So the two main camps of sensors are KAI/KAF versus Sony/Fairchild, as I understood from data
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| 19:12 | danieel | forgot the Philips/Dalsa/Teledyne path, they make nice medium format ones
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| 19:14 | danieel | which country are you from?
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| 19:14 | sanaris | from Russian far province
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| 19:14 | danieel | then get inspired e.g. here - http://astroccd.org/2015/04/cam84/
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| 19:15 | danieel | there seems to be more designs, maybe hes from your region as well
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| 19:18 | sanaris | this design is great, but the part I don't understand is USB thingy. May be I go for the Arduino or Raspberry with SDcard
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| 19:18 | danieel | there is a cam86 design as well, with a mcu
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| 19:18 | danieel | http://astroccd.org/2016/10/cam86/
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| 19:19 | danieel | this seems more self-contained, althought I do not know the writing.. judging by the parts on the board
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| 19:23 | sanaris | One guy offers cam90 for 200$, but I want to explore what could be done
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| 19:34 | sanaris | Thanks. Looks like today is gone. Nigthy
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| 19:36 | danieel | np
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