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17:17 | se6astian | meeting in 43 minutes
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17:18 | anuditverma | cool, I am already here
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17:19 | comradekingu | Man, just when im around to catch it, there is another meeting
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17:50 | Champika | The meeting didn't start yet, right?
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17:50 | maltefiala | right
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17:50 | anuditverma | Right
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17:51 | maltefiala | 1700 utc
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17:51 | Champika | Cool! no left, I'm at time then :)
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17:52 | anuditverma | btw many congratulations to Niculescu and champika :)
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17:53 | Champika | Thank you very much for giving us this opportunity :)
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17:54 | anuditverma | well say thanks to Apertus then :D
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17:54 | niculescu_vlad | Thank you!
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17:54 | maltefiala | Thanks for applying :D
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17:55 | niculescu_vlad | I promise I'll do my best in developing this project
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18:00 | maltefiala | niculescu, anudit, champika, have you met each other before?
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18:00 | anuditverma | nope
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18:01 | se6astian | hello everyone
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18:01 | se6astian | team meeting time
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18:01 | davidak | hello!
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18:01 | Champika | hello,
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18:01 | anuditverma | Hi Sebastian
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18:01 | maltefiala | oi
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18:02 | Bertl | evening folks!
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18:02 | se6astian | welcome Champika, anuditverma and niculescu_vlad (who just timed out)
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18:02 | se6astian | you three are the spearhead of gsoc here :)
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18:03 | se6astian | quick overview and introduction for everyone:
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18:03 | se6astian | anuditverma will be mentored by maltefiala, BAndiT1983 and myself working on AXIOM Beta REST Interface https://lab.apertus.org/T723
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18:03 | RexOrCine | Present.
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18:03 | niculescu_vlad | Hi!
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18:04 | niculescu_vlad | Sorry, browser problem
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18:04 | niculescu_vlad | Now it's fine
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18:04 | Bertl | you might want to get a real IRC client soon
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18:04 | se6astian | Champika will be mentored by Bertl and work on Linux Kernel driver for Lattice MachXO2 programming/debugging https://lab.apertus.org/T730
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18:04 | Bertl | niculescu_vlad: (e.g. Pidgin, hexchat, irssi, ...)
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18:04 | niculescu_vlad | Yes I have one.
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18:04 | niculescu_vlad | mIrc
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18:05 | niculescu_vlad | but browser was faster to access
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18:05 | se6astian | and niculescu_vlad will also be mentored by Bertl and working on https://lab.apertus.org/T735 Smart switching regulator
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18:05 | anuditverma | Hello everyone, I am Anudit Verma, I am a final year computer science undergrad at USICT, New Delhi, India. This summer I will be working on AXIOM beta REST interface project.
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18:06 | anuditverma | Thanks Sebastian for the intro !
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18:06 | Bertl | yeah, maybe let each one introduce themselves
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18:07 | se6astian | good idea
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18:07 | se6astian | Champika: please introduce yourself (one sentence is fine)
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18:07 | Champika | Hi everyone, I am Amila Sampath (My nick name is Champika), I am a final year Electrical and Electronic Engineering student at University of Peradeniya, Sri Lanka.
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18:08 | se6astian | thanks
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18:08 | Champika | You can see my blog at camplnx.blogspot.com
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18:08 | niculescu_vlad | Ok. That is right. My name is Niculescu Vlad and I am student at Politehnica Univ. of Bucharest - final year, in Romania (at the moment. From September I will study at ETH Zurich). I have worked as an embedded software engineer for two years and I will deal with the switching regulator this summer
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18:08 | Champika | And hope to work with you all, during this summer :)
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18:08 | maltefiala | https://camplnx.blogspot.co.at/
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18:09 | maltefiala | champika: your blog redirects to https://camplnx.blogspot.co.at/
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18:09 | niculescu_vlad | By the way, my first name is Vlad
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18:09 | RexOrCine | Sorry, the blog you were looking for does not exist. However, the name camplnx is available to register!
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18:09 | Champika | https://champlnx.blogspot.com/
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18:09 | se6astian | I would like to write an article in the coming weeks about GSoC and dedicate one brief paragraph to each of you 3 and what you will be working on during GSoC
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18:10 | se6astian | I will get in touch with you directly once I have a draft to review
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18:10 | Champika | Is it working now? (https://champlnx.blogspot.com/)
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18:10 | anuditverma | Great
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18:10 | Bertl | Champika: yep
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18:10 | se6astian | works
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18:11 | se6astian | great so in general you are welcome to idle/particiapte in this channel here
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18:11 | Bertl | you are at least encouraged to read up on the logs
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18:11 | se6astian | we can also set up BIP accounts for you that idle in the channel when you are not online
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18:11 | se6astian | when you reconnect you get the backlog of personal messages and what was said on the channel
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18:11 | Bertl | but hanging around here is very important because we all live in different timezones, so discussions might span larger intervals
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18:12 | se6astian | if you want a bip account let me or bertl know with a PM and we will set it up in the coming days
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18:12 | Bertl | and when you are gone when somebody replies, then you won't get the message
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18:12 | se6astian | but it requires a dedicated IRC client as herbert mentioned (hexchat, pidgin, etc.
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18:13 | anuditverma | got it
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18:13 | niculescu_vlad | me too
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18:13 | Champika | sure, I think it is better to have one
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18:13 | Champika | I'm using Hexchat
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18:13 | se6astian | perfect
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18:14 | se6astian | ok now to explain the general idea of the IRC meeting
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18:14 | se6astian | we schedule a team / community wide IRC meeting every 2-3 weeks
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18:14 | se6astian | mondays have tradition already by now
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18:14 | Bertl | we might increase the interval during the GSoC period
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18:14 | se6astian | and the time like today has also been quite established already now
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18:14 | se6astian | Bertl: we might increase the interval during the GSoC period <- would make sense, agreed
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18:14 | se6astian | at least keep the 2 week periods
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18:15 | Bertl | that doesn't mean that we won't chat a lot outside that meeting though :)
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18:15 | se6astian | every teammember/community member is now asked by me to send me a PM to report about progress or things he is working on
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18:15 | se6astian | I collect the members and then let one after the other do the report
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18:15 | se6astian | we try to keep it rather brief
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18:15 | Bertl | i.e. don't send the report, just tell se6astian that you like to speak up :)
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18:16 | se6astian | with further information in links or somewhere to read up
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18:16 | se6astian | So: Who wants to report about a topic?
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18:16 | OscaR___ | hi all!
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18:16 | se6astian | hi OscaR___
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18:16 | Bertl | hey OscaR___! glad you could make it!
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18:16 | se6astian | btw note the public IRC logs are avaiable here: http://irc.apertus.org/
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18:16 | se6astian | sorted by date
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18:16 | OscaR___ | Perfect
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18:16 | derWalter_ | I want to report!
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18:16 | se6astian | latest month first
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18:17 | Bertl | derWalter_: PM to sebastian
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18:17 | derWalter_ | Its about a monthly meeting in vienna
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18:17 | se6astian | after the reports are done we also reserve time for discussions
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18:17 | se6astian | as those sometimes take longer and sometimes do not lead to a real result we try to do them after the reports in the meeting
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18:18 | se6astian | on the wiki I post meeting minutes
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18:18 | se6astian | left yellow block at the bottom
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18:18 | se6astian | Team Meetings IRC Meeting Notes
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18:18 | RexOrCine | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_Notes
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18:18 | se6astian | for each meeting we try to keep a brief summary of the discussed topics/decisions
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18:19 | se6astian | ok so far I received topics to report from Bertl and derwalter
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18:19 | se6astian | anybody else want to report anything pm me now
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18:20 | Bertl | (i.e. use /msg se6astian )
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18:20 | se6astian | or click on my name in most IRC clients
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18:21 | se6astian | quick update: the new flyers we had printed arrived, the bright design this time but unfortunately they were damaged during delivery (https://lab.apertus.org/M11)
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18:21 | se6astian | so I asked for a refund
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18:21 | RexOrCine | What thickness was the paper?
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18:21 | se6astian | 300g/m²
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18:22 | se6astian | it feels much thinner than the older 350g/m² matte paper prints though
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18:22 | se6astian | as its a high gloss one this time
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18:22 | davidak | does the design look better printed?
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18:22 | se6astian | yes I think so
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18:22 | se6astian | but the paper isnt good
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18:22 | derWalter_ | Why didnt you print them in the office? Matthias bought flyer print machines I thought?
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18:23 | se6astian | we did risoprints during the EU project with the machines in the office
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18:23 | Bertl | se6astian: I think the paper is ok, it could be better though ...
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18:23 | se6astian | these are offset prints
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18:23 | se6astian | I will try another round after the refund was done
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18:23 | derWalter_ | But digital ones I thought
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18:23 | se6astian | bright design but thicker paper
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18:23 | se6astian | matte maybe
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18:23 | Bertl | got some feedback that the background graphics is almost inivisible on the bright ones
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18:23 | Bertl | I also didn't see it at first glance
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18:24 | derWalter_ | So you make one foil per side and then start the print process, more control, like the pick and place attempt?
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18:24 | Bertl | (so maybe that could be improved)
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18:24 | se6astian | next brief update: BAndiT1983, RexOrCine and me started working on the new website theme ( screendesigns: https://lab.apertus.org/M18) - wip website: http://apertus-d8-dev.w4f.eu/drupal8/
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18:25 | se6astian | Bertl: agreed the explosion drawing is barely visible/noticeable
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18:26 | derWalter_ | Is it an option to print them in the office?
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18:26 | se6astian | I will check with Nils/matthias if there are any machines capable of this
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18:26 | derWalter_ | To see the outcome? Would save nearly all the money!
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18:26 | davidak | i can give feedback again on the website later on
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18:27 | se6astian | next quick update: our new enclosure CAD designer unfortunately had to quit due to getting a new job
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18:27 | Bertl | also the stackup on the back could be larger and with labels
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18:27 | se6astian | so currently we have noone working on the CAD modelling
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18:27 | Bertl | people have been trying to identify the details but failed
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18:27 | se6astian | I will try to intensify searching for someone to help on that front
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18:27 | RexOrCine | Is this Michael?
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18:27 | se6astian | if you know someone or a friend of a friend, let me know :)
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18:28 | se6astian | the new CAD designer was alexander
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18:28 | se6astian | but he didnt hang out here on on the lab
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18:28 | maltefiala | @derWalter_: You can not determine the printing quality upfront @home because you don't have the printer's paper or colors
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18:28 | RexOrCine | I'll put some tweets out.
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18:28 | OscaR___ | It should be a technical CAD moderler?
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18:28 | davidak | maybe ask in a hackerspace or fablab mailinglist/irc
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18:29 | davidak | there are much people doing 3d printing etc
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18:29 | se6astian | CAD engineer, enclosure designer, industrial designer
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18:29 | se6astian | those kinds of professions
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18:29 | se6astian | davidak: good idea
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18:29 | OscaR___ | OK, I'll ask around too.
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18:29 | se6astian | we require someone with a bit of CNC metal milling experience though
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18:30 | se6astian | ok reports in alphabetic order: Bertl, malte, walter
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18:30 | se6astian | Bertl: your turn
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18:30 | Bertl | okay, tx
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18:31 | Bertl | well, over the last weeks, we were mainly busy with GSoC and preparations for the Faires and Linuxwochen
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18:31 | Bertl | we created a new SMT Workshop and tested it at Linuxwochen and Make Munich
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18:31 | derWalter_ | (Its DerWalter, ;) D!)
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18:31 | Bertl | the feedback was excellent but it needs to be refined
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18:32 | maltefiala | SMT = Satisfiability Modulo Theories ?
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18:32 | Bertl | Surface Mount Technology
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18:32 | davidak | have you shot some clips with the beta there?
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18:33 | Bertl | pictures as well as more information will come
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18:33 | davidak | great
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18:33 | Bertl | we didn't shoot anything with the Beta, because we had no working recorder
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18:33 | Bertl | anyway, that's about it from my side
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18:34 | maltefiala | Ty
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18:34 | se6astian | thanks
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18:34 | se6astian | derWalter, with the D, your turn in the alphabet :)
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18:34 | maltefiala | Sebastian and I organised the OpenEverythingFilmFestival this year
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18:34 | maltefiala | Oh sorry
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18:34 | se6astian | sorry, I relearned the alphabet just a second ago :)
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18:35 | maltefiala | great :D
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18:35 | derWalter_ | :)
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18:35 | derWalter_ | Solo after the last meeting there was a lot of brainstorming how to proceed
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18:35 | derWalter_ | And I came up with the idea of a monthly meeting in vienna
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18:36 | derWalter_ | So I rechecked with Sebastian who gladly loved the idea and got me in touch with Matthias who was a big carrier in the EU gamma project
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18:37 | derWalter_ | He is also the person who organized the office space in neubaugasse Vienna where apertus has office and production spaces
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18:37 | derWalter_ | I visited him and we talker trough the idea of a meeting and he liked it a slot
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18:38 | derWalter_ | But, I could not decide a repeating date, so I need your feedback on a doodle
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18:38 | derWalter_ | There was the misunderstanding that entri g the doodle does not imply that you will show up!
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18:38 | derWalter_ | I just need the swarm and group intelligence to pock the best date!
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18:39 | derWalter_ | There is a task in the lab with a short description
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18:39 | derWalter_ | And the doodle link: http://doodle.com/poll/69gbttpng4rq6ipu
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18:39 | derWalter_ | So I want to ask all of you, ESPECIALLY the project leaders Beryl, Sebastian, Oscar, to participate
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18:40 | derWalter_ | So the meeting will have a good start
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18:40 | derWalter_ | Participate on the doodle and the actually meeting g
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18:40 | se6astian | Oscar is in Belgium...
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18:40 | derWalter_ | We need the project heads to attract the following crowd
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18:40 | davidak | great initiative. i would love to meet all of you but it's a little far from germany
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18:40 | OscaR___ | Well, it has been some time since I was in Vienna. Love to come again. monthly might be a bit expensive ;)
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18:40 | davidak | i hopefully manage it someday :)
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18:41 | derWalter_ | Haha, at least at the doodle then
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18:41 | derWalter_ | Your presence as founder is important!
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18:41 | Bertl | I think the 'Meet in Vienna' only works for folks from Austria
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18:41 | maltefiala | Wow, sounds great! If I were you, I would definitely list it on https://meetup.com/ as well when you have the dates. Later on, you can also use meetup for checking who is coming and who is not. Meetup is used a lot by programmers to schedule public meetings in Vienna atm (all my colleagues use it to find out what's going on in Vienna computing whise)
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18:41 | se6astian | exactly my concern that a physical meeting is difficult with people spread all around the globe... but I am happy to be convinced it works :)
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18:42 | Bertl | so while it is nice, it excludes many of the folks who meet here (virtually)
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18:42 | OscaR___ | Yes, unless there is a very important meeting only once in a wile.
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18:42 | derWalter_ | As soon as we have a running date I will start to fix the location, with the help from Matthias I hope :) drinks, projector, chairs, fongerfood, etc on our hands
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18:42 | derWalter_ | Rdy for live demo, talks and beer :))
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18:42 | derWalter_ | A live connection with a live beta should be doable
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18:42 | OscaR___ | And coffee?
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18:43 | derWalter_ | So ppl can join live stream and participate over irc
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18:43 | derWalter_ | And coffee!!
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18:43 | Bertl | fongerfood sounds interesting :)
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18:43 | se6astian | we could combine it with a workshop maybe and invite people outside team maybe?
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18:44 | derWalter_ | Mhhh many people working on the project are from Vienna and I would love to attract new Viennese people... Why? Cause I live here! Here I can work best!
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18:44 | OscaR___ | Yes, free beer for CAD engineers
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18:44 | derWalter_ | Yes Sebastian that's a good idea, I had a thought a bout it as well
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18:44 | se6astian | ok derWalter: done?
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18:45 | derWalter_ | Jep, so please join the lab takes and doodle to get me a starting date fixed :)
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18:45 | se6astian | right
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18:45 | derWalter_ | (Dry for typing on mobile)
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18:45 | se6astian | maltefiala: your turn now
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18:45 | maltefiala | Se6astion and me wanted to register a really long domain name. That's why we did a film festival: http://openeverythingfilmfestival.com/
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18:45 | se6astian | :P
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18:45 | RexOrCine | Yeah. I liked that a lot.
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18:46 | davidak | haha, nice
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18:46 | getzi | hi guys
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18:46 | getzi | (and girls)
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18:46 | maltefiala | Like last years, the festival took place during the http://linuxwochen.at/ , an event for linux enthusiasts (and wannabes) in Vienna every year
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18:46 | maltefiala | (Bertl already mentioned them)
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18:47 | maltefiala | It took place at 7pm MET for one hour
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18:47 | maltefiala | On our first day we had approx. 30 people there
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18:47 | maltefiala | And showed short films
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18:47 | OscaR___ | Great
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18:47 | maltefiala | On the second day, we were able to show https://www.allesunterkontrolle.at/ , a film by Werner Boote with participation by him in a Q&A afterwars
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18:48 | maltefiala | *afterwards
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18:48 | maltefiala | Next year will be different however, as we are now (thanks se6astian) listed at https://filmfreeway.com/festival/OpenEverythingFilmFestival2018PrivacyandSecurity
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18:49 | maltefiala | Where people can submit their films until feb 2018 to be shown in may 2018 during the festival in Vienna
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18:50 | maltefiala | So, if anyone of you wants to submit a film or knows people who want to, submit your film at https://filmfreeway.com/festival/OpenEverythingFilmFestival2018PrivacyandSecurity or at https://openeverythingfilmfestival.com/2017/04/30/call-for-submissions-2018/
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18:50 | maltefiala | All in all I am convinced this is a great step forward for a small festival to something bigger in terms of quantity of movies and celebration of category winners next year
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18:51 | derWalter_ | Is this an apertus project or your private initiativinitiative?
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18:51 | maltefiala | apertus
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18:51 | maltefiala | " Festival The apertus° Association and q/uintessenz are proud to announce that Viennaâs first international libre/open film festival, âOpen Everything 2017 â Privacy and Securityâ, will take place in the course of the Linuxwochen Wien."
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18:51 | derWalter_ | Why did I never hear if this?.... :/ great, how can one participate in the organisation?
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18:51 | maltefiala | @se6astion: We need to add aykit here :P
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18:52 | maltefiala | I guess organisation slots are very wide open. Best to talk to @se6astian about how to help out I guess
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18:52 | derWalter_ | Is there any help needed?
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18:52 | derWalter_ | And what would be needed?
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18:52 | OscaR___ | We can also expand this to other countries.
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18:52 | Bertl | the film festival should be better promoted and it would help a lot to know the program/films in advance
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18:52 | se6astian | lots of help is needed
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18:52 | se6astian | where: everywhere :)
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18:53 | kaiserlich | maltefiala is the idea to continue doing this only at/together with linuxwochen or maybe even separately? btw. i thought it was great you showed alles unter kontrolle + that you could get werner boote to be there (i was busy with organising pydays though and had already seen the film so wasn't there ^^)
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18:53 | maltefiala | @Bertl: This will be doable next year
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18:53 | Bertl | I got many folks asking me: "what will they show on ..."
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18:53 | Bertl | and all I could tell them was: "no idea ..." :/
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18:53 | maltefiala | @kaiserlich: pythonenthusiast here :D, I missed pydays :(...
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18:53 | kaiserlich | d'awww
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18:54 | kaiserlich | you should join the brand new slack created for the local python community!
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18:54 | se6astian | in summary: it can only get better :)
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18:54 | davidak | would be also nice at Chaos Communication Congress
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18:54 | se6astian | malte: done?
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18:54 | maltefiala | Yes
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18:54 | kaiserlich | maltefiala https://pythonaustria.github.io/
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18:54 | maltefiala | thx
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18:54 | se6astian | Champika: your turn
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18:55 | Champika | so, during past few weeks, I kept reading on the project
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18:55 | Champika | And I read about FPGAs and JTAGs
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18:55 | Champika | Then I have made some blog post on them
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18:55 | Champika | https://champlnx.blogspot.com/2017/04/what-is-jtag-hello-everyone-so-today-im.html
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18:55 | Champika | https://champlnx.blogspot.com/2017/04/lets-start-working-with-fpga-part-1-how.html
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18:56 | Champika | I have got some experience on Linux Device drivers already,
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18:56 | Champika | https://champlnx.blogspot.com/search/label/Linux%20Device%20Drivers
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18:57 | Champika | But I haven't worked with FPGAs, So I try to find some hardwares to get some experiences with them
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18:57 | Bertl | sounds good, glad to hear that you are already digging into this stuff
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18:57 | se6astian | many thanks for the report
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18:57 | Champika | And also I met some former students of our university, who works with FPGAs, and they teach me a lot about FPGAs
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18:58 | Champika | Thats all I guess :)
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18:58 | Bertl | thanks!
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18:58 | BAndiT1983 | you should get a syntax highlighter for the code on your blog, makes things easier to read
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18:59 | Champika | Sure BAndiT1983, Thanks for the comment :)
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18:59 | se6astian | ok that was the last report
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18:59 | se6astian | my last comments: for GSoC I installed an AXIOM Beta as remote setup today
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18:59 | se6astian | its connected to a PC running 24/7
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18:59 | anuditverma | nice !
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18:59 | RexOrCine | Welcome to the community Champika.
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19:00 | se6astian | so for testing FPGA bitstreams or API
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19:00 | RexOrCine | ... and the other students!
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19:00 | se6astian | it should be always avaiable to you
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19:00 | Bertl | we will get you access to that Beta ASAP and set up a calendar for coordination
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19:00 | se6astian | and of course anyone else working on things that require a camera in some way
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19:00 | Champika | @ RexOrCine: Thank you :)
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19:00 | OscaR___ | Thanks all
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19:00 | se6astian | upcoming events: Maker Faire Vienna (May 20/21), Maker Faire Berlin(June 10/11)
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19:00 | se6astian | help there appreciated
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19:00 | se6astian | thats the meeting for today from my side
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19:01 | Bertl | thanks!
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19:01 | Bertl | next date?
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19:01 | se6astian | ah of course :D
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19:01 | se6astian | 2 weeks would be Monday May 22nd
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19:02 | se6astian | same time, same place?
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19:02 | Bertl | sounds good to me
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19:02 | anuditverma | This is for us too ?
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19:02 | Bertl | it makes sense to participate if you can
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19:03 | Bertl | it is general coordination and information for the community
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19:03 | anuditverma | Yeah surely I can :)
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19:03 | anuditverma | Cool
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19:03 | Champika | I will have end of semester exam from 22nd May - 2nd June
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19:03 | niculescu_vlad | Champika if you want your own FPGA hardware try to ask Xilinx for a donation. I did this last year when I competed in XIlinx open hardware and they sent me a Nexys 4 DDR
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19:04 | Bertl | good idea
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19:04 | Champika | @niculescu_vald: Thank you for the information :) I will try it :)
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19:05 | OscaR___ | See you later!
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19:05 | niculescu_vlad | One mention. Just a teaching assistant or teacher can ask for a donation. Talk to one first
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19:06 | Bertl | okay, so meeting concluded, but feel free to discuss and/or ask about things important to you now and later
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19:07 | se6astian | meeting minutes posted
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19:07 | se6astian | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/IRC_Team_Meeting_2017-05-8
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19:07 | se6astian | feel free to add anything I missed or did not cover properly
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19:07 | se6astian | too many things to do at the same time :)
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19:09 | anuditverma | I would be glad if I can get the access and try the AXIOM beta :)
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19:09 | maltefiala | @anuditverma: Will happen, you will get all information on our friday meeting
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19:09 | maltefiala | (we are working on it)
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19:09 | BAndiT1983 | you can also try the firmware in QEMU, same experience without hardware
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19:10 | anuditverma | okay thanks, will see.
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19:10 | anuditverma | that's all from my side.
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19:12 | maltefiala | @anuditverma: We have our meetings for T723 and team meetings
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19:13 | maltefiala | Our meetings are important for gsoc, the team meetings are important if you want to look beyond T723 which is always appreciated
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19:13 | anuditverma | Yes I remember, that's on 12th same time, right ?
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19:15 | maltefiala | yes
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19:15 | anuditverma | @maltefiala : and I would be around for more community meetings
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19:18 | davidak | i looked at the website of the film ALLES UNTER KONTROLLE but found no way to actually watch it⦠found it on youtube :) https://youtu.be/UM-GUTGZSSc
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19:19 | davidak | strange that filmmakers don't want that one watches the movie
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19:20 | maltefiala | Well, they need to buy food as well ;)
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19:20 | davidak | yeah, so maybe let me buy the film?
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19:21 | davidak | for example http://www.monochrom.at/traceroute/ let's me buy the film on vimeo
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19:21 | davidak | i can even download it and watch enywhere
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19:24 | anuditverma | traceroute, it's a 8.5 on imdb, I want to see this one
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19:24 | maltefiala | Alles Unter Kontrolle is a classic cinema release
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19:25 | davidak | i don't want to be forced to leave the house to watch a movie
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19:25 | davidak | when it is easier to buy the movie than torrent it, people will do
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19:27 | maltefiala | I am just telling you that it follows the classic way how films are sold
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19:27 | maltefiala | Which is a very decentral environment with 1000s of players and agitators
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19:27 | maltefiala | all having their own view on how things should be done
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19:28 | maltefiala | And yes, the landscape is getting killed by amazon, netflix, you name it
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19:28 | maltefiala | But it is not clear yet if this is beneficial to film making in the end
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19:28 | maltefiala | We will see
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19:44 | anuditverma | bye everyone, I would catch up on the next meeting, goodnight :)
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22:21 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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